Appreciate you bringing this scan to the masses. Any possibility of Full Metal Jacket or other Kubrick films?
Hello. I’ve just found this thread after doing a google search for “eyes wide shut” “35mm” “scan”, so I only wanted to add my (newbie, rando) voice and say I’d love to see this scan become accessible.
Eyes Wide Shut was available in open matte HD on MoviesAnywhere up until late last year. It was my preferred way of viewing the film, but then they sadly changed their copy to widescreen to match every other streamer’s copy. This sounds like a fantastic upgrade from that, so I hope it can be released someday soon. Thank you.
It’s still viewable on Paramount+. Not much of an upgrade over DVD in terms of detail, but the colors seem a little better.
The series was made for 480p, so I’m doubtful about there being much difference in quality between D+ and a DVD fan upscale. I also much prefer the colors on the DVD version, so going with that is the right move for me.
Seems I’m a bit late on this, but are you guys still accepting donations? Would love to have a look at the initial release.
My free account with Mega.nz would only allow me to view the first 36 mins of your expanded cut.
I enjoyed what I was viewing a lot.
Some observations:
At the 5:16 mark, there’s a random frame or two that slipped past, during the deleted, extended dialogue between Han and Chewie (“dont lose your temper.”) that needs removal.
At the 23:20 mark, Artoo’s scream (from the Hoth Wampa scene?) carried over Piett’s face and the start of the deleted scene between Luke and Leia (recovering after the bacta tank).
At the 28:04 mark, the deleted scene with Han and Leia could use some work on its geometry - the scene looks vertically stretched (Leia, looks like a conehead).
That’s as far as I got before the “Transfer Quota Exceeded” message popped up to ruin my pleasant viewing experience. Lol. Bummer. Would like to see the rest - if possible?
If you download it using the MEGA app, it should automatically resume when the wait time runs out. I’ve also had some success messing around with VPN’s to get around the wait.
I’d like a link too, by the way.
Incredible work. I love the idea of adding lasers to the battle and the dummy fix looks great.
20TB HDD’s seem to be coming down in price lately. You can get a pretty good deal during a sale.
Is there any way to still get this?
Anyone still have this?
What else would you do with your edit?
- Have Boba be the one that “catches” Leia trying to rescue Han.
2a. Add the sound of Boba spurs off screen right before Han says, “What’s that?”
2b. When Leia looks up, cut to a new shot of Boba slowly raising his gun at Han and Leia.
This would require a new background plate that Nev has already made, and the shot of Boba would be a reversed shot of Boba lowering his blaster after the thermal detonator situation is resolved. Boba doesn’t have to say anything here, but you could have him say something like, “Going somewhere, Solo?” or “Not so fast, Princess.”2c. When Jabba and the rest of his minions are revealed behind the curtain, give Jabba a new line that is something along the lines of, “Well done, bounty hunter!” or “You were right, bounty hunter!”
This is my favorite suggestion. Never understood the logic behind Jabba and his guys just hanging out waiting for Leia to free Han.
If not a full film edit, I’d at least be interested in seeing some demos of these Boba ideas.
Also, I like this version of the “your mother” line a lot. Sounds pretty seamless to me.
Since we’re discussing AOTC edits and new editions has anybody thought about including this extended Jango death scene? Only a slight difference but I would love to see this in one of these new edits with the training scene.
EDIT: Including the flashback shot of boba holding the helmet from BoBF might be cool too.
Wow, that looks awesome. Professional quality. I’d definitely watch the super-extended version that’s been discussed here were it to feature this, the de-aged/color graded duel, and all the deleted scenes. I get some people want the love scenes cut, but I enjoy them in a so bad it’s good kind of way.
The insert shot does the job I suppose, however I still despise the attitude Obi-Wan is giving Anakin. He is basically blaming Anakin for wanting to win their training duel, but behaves like a child that lost a game and insist on playing on until they have won themself.
It’s implied by Obi-Wan’s dialogue before the duel that Anakin usually won their spars, so him winning another wouldn’t have proven much. I took the speech as him saying that Anakin was getting too pre-occupied with winning or losing their spars and that he should have treated it as more of a learning opportunity. The interpretation that Obi-Wan is supposed to come across as a bit overbearing to give justification to Anakin’s rants also works. I’m fine with the live-action movies showing a more antagonistic side of their relationship when the animated stuff does plenty to show them being friendly with each other.
My idea for the younglings is to slowdown/interpolate the shot of Anakin looking at them. It’s one of those blink and you’ll miss it moments, but Anakin has a tear in his eye during that shot, and slowing it down makes it a lot more visible. It makes it seem less like a “school shooter turn” and more like something that he hates himself for doing, but which Palpatine has manipulated him into thinking that he has to do. That seems to be the intent behind the scene.
I’d rather have changing aspect ratios than having unintended cropping on 16:9 material. There’s films out there that handle multiple aspect ratios just fine. Everything Everywhere All at Once is a good example. The thing there, though, is rather than suddenly switching ratios, the movie eases you into it, like shown in this video
How are you planning on doing the added Vader/Sidious scene?
I haven’t gotten the time to finetune all the foley and audio levels, and I threw this together while watching Champions League (xDDD), so feel free to give feedback if you want the 5.1 mp4 file and some changes made to it.
General list of changes (used snooker’s music-free stereo track for the center channel):
- 5.1 surround, with custom surround ambience, sounds etc.
- Color graded to look like AotC’s color grading (increased glow in background, less bright colors, more vintage)
- Rescored to feel upbeat and hopeful, as their relationship should be at this time. Only foreshadowing is at the end, with Anakin’s and Padme’s Love Theme and then the mother theme to accompany Anakin’s facial expression.
- Edited it to be less obvious it consists of chopped parts, by removing “Anakin’s Victory”. It destroys flow imo.
Picture for reference: https://media.doblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Star-Wars-Attack-of-the-Clones.mkv_snapshot_00.07.11_2020.04.08_14.19.26-scaled.jpg
Oh, and Streamable has compressed it to a stereo file so some of the background ambience might be/is louder than in the 5.1 surround file.
Very impressive sound work. I love the little details, like being able to hear cars whizzing by. Not sure about the edit at the end. It does flow a little better, but Obi-Wan’s speech to Anakin about his need for victory blinding him doesn’t really make sense without seeing his premature celebration before that. Also, I like that part for establishing Anakin’s desire for validation from a father figure, which Palpatine takes advantage of later.
Coloring seems pretty good as well. There’s always gonna be room for improvement, but I think we’re in the territory where there’s other reshoot scenes that stick out worse. The scene in TPM where Anakin visits Padme on Coruscant, for example.
I personally think it flows better going right before the elevator scene. Though I guess if you share the redone scene by itself anyone could make an edit putting it wherever they want.
I’m working on an adaptation of the scene from the Vader comics where Vader finds out that Luke is his son. I’ve hired a voice actor so far, and am working on compiling footage that can realistically fit into ESB. My idea is that it’ll play out at the start of ESB, but end on Boba leaving Vader in silence. Then, either the end of ESB or the beginning of RotJ will show the scene with the flashbacks, cementing the previous reveal.
So, how did this go? I was thinking of hiring my own voice actor to read Vader’s comic book lines before I saw this post. There’s a fan film adaptation that’s already good enough for me, minus Vader’s voice not being the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIiq76crKnc&t=2s
Also, clearly the best place to put this is as a post-credit scene on the Holiday Special.
The conflict is in that even though he says Anakin is dead at the end of the fight and during ANH, him sparing Vader demonstrates that he can’t make the final steps to fully commit to that idea. It adds weight to him telling Luke that he must kill Vader by showing it wasn’t a decision that he took lightly. It also adds depth to the “certain point of view” thing by showing it as not only a lie that he used to manipulate Luke but also a lie that he’d been trying to convince himself of as well.
This seems like straight out of Lucasfilm if they put in the proper effort in the effects. Amazing!
Since PixelJoker was participating in the Kenobi Redux thread I really hope that he is incorporating the great idea from Phase3/Broom kid of Vader getting his helmet sliced by Obi before he buries Obi with the rocks.
(https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Obi-Wan-Kenobi-Redux-Ideas-Thread/id/94986/page/4#1492413)
It would fix the stupid ending of Obi-Wan just walking away from the fight and letting Vader live. This would explain why Obi is not so uneasy in the end scenes because Vader assumes he is now dead. His effects skills would really be needed here to replace the intact helmet with the broken one for those fight ending shots.
Maybe he wants to keep the ending details under wraps until release, but just wanted to remind about the idea. Fingers crossed…
I feel like the ending of the Kenobi/Vader duel is something that a lot of people didn’t get at the time but, like the prequels, will be re-evaluated in years to come. Obi-Wan still not being able to bring himself to kill Anakin says so much about the conflict and internal turmoil that he did his best to hide going into ANH. Vader screaming at Obi-Wan to come back and finish the job is also an incredible moment that speaks on his borderline-suicidal post-ROTS character. You lose all that when it’s just Vader walking away because he thinks he killed Obi-Wan.
Yeah, that’s pretty much it. Watching them all, I think I actually prefer how the version without the pan shot plays out.
It always struck me as a bit odd how the window explodes and the shot just lingers on that while epic fast paced music plays with not much happening. The extended duel clips are way out of order in this edit and there’s some glaring continuity issues introduced as a result (no offense to Bobson), but if you slot them to go right after the window explosion and lead into the big panning shot, they’re a perfect fit. Hence, I’m pretty sure that’s actually where the shots were originally going to be, but at the last minute they decided that it would be better to reintroduce the duel with the panning shot and let the Padme stuff go a bit longer since there’s nothing else to fill that section of the music.
bobson dugnutt’s Phantom Menace - Expanded Edition HD Fight clips re-ordered/framed to their 2001 Deleted Scenes Documentary presentation + Schorman’s HDTV v2.5 + ifjg’s editing suggestion + audio from the 1999 Royal Premiere video + Ultimate Edition OST.
https://mega.nz/file/E1NwwIID#RamP5-iTQevx3wQYHB6OiMTXZhYK6gsjWjW7QD4r0Cg
If the pan up shot that opens the sequence in the final film is replaced outright, it works pretty well. Panaka’s head turn to the cut, and the Jedi landing to Qui Gon swinging feel right.
I was talking more like cutting right when the window breaks. If you do that, you can still keep most of the panning shot. But your way of doing it does have its advantages. It’s cool how the chorus comes in for when they do the jump, and I like how it flows cutting straight from the landing to the Qui-Gon swing.
I wonder if you could use the AI voice stuff to make Padme’s death more believable/fitting for her character. Like, instead of the droid saying she’s perfectly healthy, he could instead say something like “She appears to have had immense physical and emotional trauma. We’re afraid we’re losing her.”
https://youtu.be/7aQe_KVNDMg?t=1115
There is a little bit of clean official audio for the extended Maul Duel.
I heard an unsubstantiated rumor from one person that this footage was in the UK Theatrical cut. I don’t believe it, but these shots clearly existed in 1999, before they were included on the 2001 DVD special features, unlike other scenes which were completed for that DVD.
The film premiered on July 14 in the UK, two months after the May 19 US premiere, so maybe these shots were completed in that gap? Have these shots appeared in any other promotional material?
Has anyone heard any proof of a longer UK Theatrical version?
Great find. No idea about the UK theatrical version, but I’m pretty sure those clips were last minute cuts. Pay attention to this part.
https://youtu.be/xmX9r63-vWw?t=190
It always struck me as a bit odd how the window explodes and the shot just lingers on that while epic fast paced music plays with not much happening. The extended duel clips are way out of order in this edit and there’s some glaring continuity issues introduced as a result (no offense to Bobson), but if you slot them to go right after the window explosion and lead into the big panning shot, they’re a perfect fit. Hence, I’m pretty sure that’s actually where the shots were originally going to be, but at the last minute they decided that it would be better to reintroduce the duel with the panning shot and let the Padme stuff go a bit longer since there’s nothing else to fill that section of the music.
Of the edits that have actually been released, Dazman’s TPM Improved edition is probably the most impressive effort to give one of the prequels an Adywan style makeover. He makes some major story changes which I completely disagree with, but the actual VFX work in updating the lightsabers and fixing some of the goofs is great.
