iRantanplan

A week of encoding, omg. What kind of maschine do you have?

Won't buy this then. This has to be a friggin joke.

Ziz said:

The best lifespan of a human is pushing 90.

More like 120.

I'd buy that for a dollar...

Are you sure the internal PS3 HDD is FAT32? Would be such a waste if you exchange your HDD to a 250gb...

g-force said:

OSJ,

I have taken a look at those frames, and although they are showing some artifacts, they aren't as bad as the pics you are showing. There must be some differences between how the PAL reacts to the script compared to the NTSC version. So I have updated the script yet again, and now am not getting any artifacts on those frames. Could you check the new script (on page one) with your PAL version and report back your findings? As a side benefit, there is now even more noise reduction!

(fingers crossed)

-G

The PAL version is interlaced. It has been converted from the 30fps master. Maybe that's the problem.

g-force said:

iRantanplan said:

You don't need to burn a custom DVD, media player classic supports AVIsynth scripts for realtime playback.

Yes, but only if the script runs in realtime! ;)

-G

 

Indeed ;)

You don't need to burn a custom DVD, media player classic supports AVIsynth scripts for realtime playback.

The James Bond movies aren't blue and they were done by Lowry. Same with Casablanca although they went overboard with their noise-reduction.

vbangle said:

kenkraly2007 said:

Allright I am sorry if made people mad on this forum. Please forgive me. I won't make such posts like that again.

 

Sounds just like ZigFried.

Freud?

edskizzorhands said:

A look at the artwork...

I like the artwork. But can you mabye change the "extended japanese version" title? First I think it looks a bit misplaced where it is right now and it doesn't sound very catchy...

kenkraly2007 said:

I never said I was a  expert

And never said that if you're happy with the 2004 set you shouldn't be. However we expect from you that if we have issues with the set you shouldn't tell us to shut up and tell us how stupid and annoying and whatever we are but accept that people may have the right to their own opinion.

Frankly I don't see the point of your ramblings.

kenkraly2007 said:

Just be happy about the dvds sets and look forward to the blu-ray releases when they eventually come out. That's all I'm saying.

What makes you think the Blu-Ray version will be corrected in what we think is wrong with the 2004 version?

v-ger06 said:

nice !

but what about the movie....

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kenkraly2007 said:

I don't see why every star wars fan boy is complaning about the 2004 dvd releases. Please don't forget these movies have been restored. Stop complaning about it ok people.

The original Version was not restored. It was changed. Major.

If you ask me what I don't like about something you better not be afraid of the answer.

This release is kind of a double edged sword. If I buy this they'll probably release a Blu-Ray version a couple of months later so I'm currently not sure if I shouldn't sit out this release...

negative1 said:

iRantanplan said:

Actually you missed the point. We say the GOUT DVD sucks because it could have been better. You say I can make it much better with lot's of research and work.

I tried some of the improvements. But I don't want to do more research.

What did I pay 45 bucks for? So I can do their work?

 

you don't want to take advantage of all the FREE work done here?

 

but you would rather waste your money on something that you

will always complain about ????????????????????????????????

i guess you dont want to see any free restoration projects

that anyones working on either, (for free)????????????????

 

so .... easy, sell it, and  never bother watching it again.

problem solved.

later

-1

Actually I never did complain anywhere until someone asked why the GOUT sucks that much ;)

Actually you missed the point. We say the GOUT DVD sucks because it could have been better. You say I can make it much better with lot's of research and work.

I tried some of the improvements. But I don't want to do more research.

What did I pay 45 bucks for? So I can do their work?

Tobbeo said:

Sorry I can't be of assistance (no experience), but impossible?

Every frame is intact (well almost) and originally intended to run in 24fps. PAL just plays it erroneously fast, there must be authoring programs that can correct this and convert it to BD(24p). (or will converting distort it unacceptably?)

Anyway reason I want BD 24 is mostly the audio pitch-up of 25, but also why watch films incorrect when there's a choise.

NTSC-film uses 23,976fps which is the same as Blu-Ray. Although basicly everybody falsly states BD is 24p it's actually 23,976. NTSC DVDs can also be played in so called 24p if player & display support this.

Use the free Flip4Mac plugin for QuickTime.

negative1 said:

Mielr said:

 

I really wish that was true, but according to the experts on this site and many others, you cannot create detail where there is none. I'm sure there are ways of making the GOUT look better, but it is never going to be hi-def resolution because the lines of resolution are just not there. 

 

I think you are all missing my point.

 

 i never claimed it was True HD, it's just a method that provides results that are very

good. My whole point is, its about learning about the technology, and the methods,

and the resources that are available on this board. Not whether it fits the technical

definition of what HD is.

 

later

-1

No it's not very good. The picture will still have lot's of ghosting, faulty IVTC artifacts, lot's of film-defects and the scenes in the deserts still look like a big yellow blob. The only thing you get rid of is the instable picture and the windowboxing on WS-displays.

Janskeet said:

A lot of people mix up LucasArts with Lucasfilm. Lucasfilm is the company that does movies/tv shows of star wars. LucasArts is the company that does videogames of star wars. Of course, I'm sure sometimes they get a little help from eachother. But looking at the prequels, I think you could catagorize those as videogame/movie hybrids from both companies. 

Sorry for that.

ShiftyEyes said:

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever see definitive releases of these films on DVD. The way I see it, LFL just doesn't have the manpower or the resources to give these movies the time and love they deserve. LFL is an independent company, so unlike major studios that release hundreds of titles on DVD each year and have the whole thing down pat, I get the feeling that LFL is always scrambling to get a release out. They might have one or two guys sitting standing by at a computer to do whatever change Lucas thinks up on a whim, but to really get the process down, they just don't have the time nor do they really care enough to get it right.

As another example, look at American Zoetrope, Francis Ford Coppola's company. Like LFL, they independently produce their own DVDs. Their efforts are decent, but, like LFL, they have problems ranging from quality control (shitting color timing on Dracula/the SW films), leaving obvious extras off the DVDs, and bad creative decisions (cropping Apocalypse Now/Lucas's revisionism). It's also the reason why The Godfather series still doesn't have that comprehensive DVD set it deserves. Sure Paramount recently ponied up for a new restoration, but in terms of extras, the new releases will barely be an improvement over the last release. Moving over to Star Wars, the possibilities are probably endless. They have vaults full of great material that could be used for extras. But assembling new extras require time and money and a great deal of effort. If I recall correctly, the extras for the 2004 set weren't even announced til the summer since they were still scrambling to put everything together.

That brings me back to the quality control issues. It seemed as though Lucas just greenlit the 2004 releases at the last possible minute in order to make the release window. And so everything, including the digital restoration, color timing, sound mix, etc. were all rushed into production. It didn't help that Lucas likes to change things as they go along, adding new CGI shots, etc. When color timing the film, they probably didn't use a source print as reference and instead asked Lucas what he wanted in each shot. After working on the prequels, he probably saw the opportunity to make the OT look more modern and hence the crazy color timing.

AFAIR LOWRY did the restauration, not LucasFilm.

negative1 said:

iRantanplan said:

Back to topic. Yes I'm aware that I'm able to basicly improve the DVDs with the help of the community. Actually I could do that only using google. But the point is I shouldn't have to do so, should I? For example I don't have a PC atm, my old one broke down. So for the moment I'm stuck with actual standalones and it's pretty annoying to switch cables and connections for every occasion. And the actual zoom function in my TV isn't really that great (I don't think there is any out there with a good scaler, really) and you can do much better with software scalers. All we're doing could at least have been done by Lucasarts themselves without too much efford. That's what makes me angry the most.

 

 ok, i'm going slightly offtopic here, i was going to buy a new laptop, and new dvd

player -> oppo 983, that has SACD, DVD-A, and upscaling built in

http://www.oppodigital.com/dv983h/

it is supposed to have some of the best up-scaling chips/circuitry available in it, and

try it out on the star wars DVD's ..... 

 

Ah yes, my player upscales too. I have the Toshiba HD-EP10 which is actually a HD-DVD player and a very good one. The upscaling itself is also very good. But there is a difference between upscaling and zooming the picture. Upscaling simply means to convert the picture from 720*480 (or 852*480 for anamorphic DVDs) to 1080p/720p/whatever but not zooming into the picture. The player handles the letterboxed videos as it they were 4*3 DVD. The oppo will do the same.

I'm currently building a HTPC which eventually will be able to zoom even with HDMI connection. But this will require some assistance by software that violates the DMCA and will not be discussed here I guess. Honestly not my desired scenario. Well at least I can use VOBSub again I guess.