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#520945
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Prequel Rewriters - Questions to think about
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DuracellEnergizer said:

 

greenpenguino said:


Who are the Clones?

The clones are lizard-like invaders from another galaxy.


This reminds me of the Chazrach from the NJO.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chazrach

 

Actually I was thinking, this

Combined with a bit of this

With maybe a hint of this

 

So basicly

this

and this

 

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#520944
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The OT.com Awards!
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Ziggy Stardust said:

Silliest Member:

greenpenguino

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Best Screenplay:

Star Wars Episode 1: AKA THE BEST STAR WARS SCRIPT EVA!

by greenpenguino.

Best Adapted Screenplay:

"OT.com, the movie" written by Ziggy Stardust, adapted for the screen by greenie

 

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!

I can't wait!

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#520270
Topic
Prequel Rewriters - Questions to think about
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        Are you focusing on the Clone Wars?
Yes, but only in Episode One.
                Who are the Clones?
The clones are lizard-like invaders from another galaxy.
                How does the War pertain to them?

                How does Cloning become irrelevant by the start of Episode 4?
The type of cloning the clones in episode one do wouldn't work on any other speices. Plus a plot point in Episode One is for the main characters to destroy the clone's cloning facilities.
                How is cloning limited to the point that the whole story doesn't get consumed by the idea of clones replacing major players?
The Clones are pretty much just evil bad guys out to destroy and conquer the universe.

 

                What is the "war" setting for your story?  Yes, there has to be a war... it's called Star Wars.
In Episode Two and part of Three, there is sort of a 'cold war' going on between certain systems which would eventually lead into the formation of the Rebellion
How do you validate Leia and Ben's claim that he and Luke's father fought in the Clone Wars for Bail Organa?
Prince Bail Organa is the leader of the fleet that is sent to wipe out the clone forces. Obi and Anakin are amongst several people who fought in the war.

Continiuity to the OT:
    Do you show Obi-Wan receiving training from Yoda?
No. Yoda will not be seen at all in the prequels. He will be spoken of, but never seen.

    Do you show Anakin receiving training from Obi-Wan?
Yes.
 
    Are Obi-Wan and Anakin friends?  When do they have the chance to establish this friendship
Yes they are friends, and they establish that friendship pretty much as soon as they meet. Obi-wan is shot down over the planet Tattooine and crashes. Anakin saves his life by pulling him out of the flaming debris, which then explodes. Obi then saves Anakin's life at some point in episode one as well.
    
    How many years before Episode 4 does your story take place and how old are the main characters?
Episode One takes place 30-40 years before 'Episode 4'
Episode Two about 20-30 years
Episode Three about 10-20 years
        If Luke/Leia's mom is pregnant at any time in your stories, then that must be within 18 years of the beginning of Episode 4.
    How will you handle the surprises in the OT?  Will you set out to protect them from a chronological viewer?  Or will you show them happen?
        Will you show Yoda?
No
        Will you show that Luke has a twin sister?  Named Leia?
No
        Will you reveal that Anakin becomes Darth Vader?   
No
            If not, how will you protect this surprise?  It must be some way that when the viewer sees Darth Vader in ANH, that he doesn't assume or even begin to wonder if that is Anakin under there.
            Will you employ the "Other Apprentice" ruse?  That suggests that Obi-Wan had an apprentice named Darth Vader that turned to the Dark Side and killed Anakin?
 

  Will you have surprises in your new PT?  Will it affect anything that we thought we already knew in the OT?  Be careful, you will most likely just tick people off, unless it is done EXTREMELY well.
Palpatine would be revealed to be a very young man in his 20s in Episode Two (He is absent from Episode One except for maybe a brief moment when he could show up.)

  How does the Jedi/Dark Jedi/Sith conflict play into the back story of the War, if at all?
    If it doesn't, then how does Anakin end up falling to the Dark Side and becoming Dark Lord of the Sith?

    If it does, then how does the Galaxy allow for a Dark Jedi/Sith/Palpatine to be left in charge of the Empire when all is said and done?
I dunno, I'm still trying to work those bits out.

    How many Jedi are we talking about here?  A handful like the OT?  Two-three handfuls like the GPT?  Or a lot a lot?
Just a handful like the OT

    How many Dark Jedi/Sith?  Please say not 2 per movie.
Quite a few dark jedi are around. They in fact are wiped out, along with all the Jedi knights by Darth Vader
    What kind of powers do the Jedi/Dark Jedi/Sith have beyond those seen in the OT? 
Not much different from the OT really.
    What is the Galaxy's general response to Jedi?  Are they all assumed to be heroes?  Or are people more like Han where they think that it's all religious nonsense?
Sort of a mixture of both.

    How do your Jedi dress?  (Please say it's not in "I'm disguised as a hermit" robes.)
They dress in sort of a cross between Armour and Nazi uniforms.

    How organized are the Jedi?  Are they like a police force in space (like the Green Lantern Corps?) or are they more like wizards that are off doing their own thing and maybe have some form or correspondance or a council every now and then? Or something less than that?
They are like Wizard-y Space Police Knights (If that makes sense...) They tend to go off and do their own thing.

Where does the Empire come from? From within the crumbling Republic or without?  If from within, are the forces that cause the crumbling also responsible for the War and are they manipulating to create an Empire as in George's PT?
 
I'm still working on that
How do the droids fit in to your new story, if at all?
They won't really be in the story.
 
How is Anakin seduced by the Dark Side?  What convinces him to serve the Emperor, the Empire and the Dark Side for 20+ years before allowing Luke to show him the error of his ways.
Still working on it
Who is the main protagonist in your films?  Luke is clearly the main protagonist in the OT.  In my opinion, the gPT has problems because the protagonist changed with the movie billing: E1 - QuiGonn Jinn, E2 - Obi-Wan Kenobi, E3 - Anakin.
- I clearly think that Anakin should be the main protagonist as a point of comparison that Luke is the protagonist of the OT.  However, I am running into trouble, probably the same way George did, because I have Obi-Wan finding Anakin.  In the OT, Luke finds Obi-Wan.  This right off the bat seems to set up Obi-Wan as the character making choices, making things happen, driving the story... AKA the Protagonist.
Obi-wan and Anakin will sort of be 'duelling protagonists'. Obi-wan is arrogant, and a bit of a hot head, whilst Anakin is calm and focused, although he is a very angry man at times (for understandable reasons.)
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#520265
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How would YOU re-do the prequels?
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Mrebo said:

roryoconnor35 said:

Greetings my fellow fanboys!

I am new to this site but can  see i am not the only one bursting with ideas and frustrated by plot holes. So far there seems to be a number of plot points we all agree with in general:

1: Darth Maul kept and developed.

2: The paternity secret must be preserved, perhaps using a "decoy vader" apprentice.

3: Obi-Wan and Anakin are our main characters, Alderann and Bail Organa feature prominently.

I read somewhere that Obi-Wan should eventually defy the Jedi order in order to train (continue training) Anakin. I can't remember who wrote it or where but this is genius as it compounds Obi-Wans guilt in the O.T.

Also someone mentioned a second (i.e. multiple) clone wars. This is another excellent point as otherwise there is no need to refer to the clone wars as plural.

My outline so far is as follows

No episode one/phantom menace.

Episode one: the clone wars

Episode two: dawn/rise of the empire (which do ye prefer?)

Episode three: revenge of the sith.

I'l post an outline soon but I would like to hear preferences for the second episodes title: Rise or Dawn?

My own two cents:

1. I don't care for Maul. He's cool: meh. I think the Sith are overdone. Anakin didn't become Darth Vader because he was a Sith nor aspired to be a Sith. I would be satisfied if the notion of Sith was done away with entirely. At most I would let it be a label used by the Jedi for those who use the Force for evil and take the quick and easy path. I don't think Maul can be developed more. He's evil because he's evil - just look at him.

2. I agree about keeping the paternity secret. I'm wary of a decoy Vader because it's gimmicky. One alternative is to let Anakin meet his fate off camera and have Obi Wan confront Vader later on, accusing him of destroying Anakin, etc. That means leaving out a duel between Obi Wan & Anakin (also I don't want Obi Wan to look like a jerk in ANH when he tells Luke that Vader killed Anakin - if there is a second decoy Vader then Obi Wan is even more of a liar and we think so from the beginning). But even this route requires some foreshadowing that Obi Wan had previous apprentices.

3. I agree about the main characters.

Obi Wan does hint at arrogance, that he could teach him "better than Yoda."

I like Dawn of the Empire.

None of us will be able to satisfy everyone on every point. Interested in seeing what you come up with!

1. Nope. No maul at all.

 

2. I've been trying to figure out how to have Anakin turn into Darth Vader without it being particularly obvious on screen. An idea I had is for Anakin to go into a cave ,like the darkside cave in 'Empire'. He would enter as Anakin, but exit as Darth Vader. I'm not sure whether or not that could be conveyed visually though.

 

3. Yep, I agree with these points.

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One thing that's important for these prequels is for them to have strong titles. A lot of people have mocked 'The Phantom Menace', 'Attack Of The Clones' and 'Revenge Of The Sith' for their weak and 'shlocky' titles.

However, you don't want it to be too bland and have a title like 'The Clone Wars'. There needs to be a balance.