frank678

except...

Pre ANH Bootleg also tweaked

So back to square one

IB Tech

PS78 tweaked to look like the above

AntcuFaalb said:

I'm joining the two losslessly-compressed AVIs into a single one right now. Let me tell you: the quality of this recording does not do the VHS justice.

I suspect it might not be possible to get the captures looking quite as vivid on computer as they do through the TV monitor, currently the stills you've posted look a bit soft/washed out compared to the photos of the TV display, but keep in mind you probably won't get a perfect result right off the bat. You could always double check settings and stuff, or else get access to a better set up later on. On the plus side the current stills look clean and undistorted and don't obscure the sense of whats there.

Cool. I think that's a sane approach to have.

Also when i said 'your project' i was talking about a totally unrelated project involving something completely different which I have no recall at this present time your honour :O)

Apologies if my previous question sounded a bit vague or flippant. I do think there is a genuine possibility that this project could become really popular on the net and I was wondering if you had thought about this or there might be good and bad points arising out of that?

AntcuFaalb said:

EDIT: Sorry, I misunderstood your question. It's probably an IP in bad shape that is the reason for some of it if I would make a guess.

What does IP stand for in this context?

Inter positive print (I think). Someone else might explain this clearer than me but the way I sort it out in my head is that you've got the original negative and then a copy of that and then a copy of the copy etc. The thing is the original negative is not supposed to make loads of copies from so it keeps it in great condition except one rumour is that they made 100 technicolor prints of the original negative, combined with poor storage is why the original negative itself is damaged through colour loss.

Are you worried your project might become too popular and snowball?

The Baltimore Boot or BB?

You ought to pick a name because if someone's deep in some heavy anaylsis later on they're going to need a handy nickname

msycamore said:

frank678 said:

thanks that makes perfect sense - i can see it is best to capture the best range of whats there overall and not whats not there at any given point.

as you were retweaking saturation just wanted to make sure i asked my question at this stage

No problem, I understand your concern. And I actually don't think you clipped any levels on your example, it looks more accurate, but if I went with a setting similar to yours I would blow out details in some other parts later in the transfer, you could of course go shot by shot to get the best results but I will not do that, maybe reel by reel is an good idea, I'll see what I can do.

This stuff is a minefield - one move one way and you screw something else up (i.e. my attempt at more lightness/airiness blew out all the detailing and colours on Lukes belt - probably if I tried to get the belt back something else would fly out the window). I keep wanting there to be a magic tweak even though I've seen a hundred times no released transfer has ever been consistent. I doubt even one overall tweak and then tweaks within that would work totally. It looks like if you really want it tweaked with a capital T you have go through every scene. I am not that careful a person.

Also agreed with above comments this new contrast setting makes it look much cleaner somehow. I never would have thought contast adjust would work to this effect as much

AntcuFaalb said:

I'm just amazed we have a bootleg of this high a generation.

Me too! Even if it's from a 16mm source, I'd really like to record this with a Panasonic AG-1980, as I think it'd be useful for color-correction. Do you agree?

As long as none of the skin tones make a person look like they had an accident inside a tanning bed it should be useful/informative I think.

thanks that makes perfect sense - i can see it is best to capture the best range of whats there overall and not whats not there at any given point.

as you were retweaking saturation just wanted to make sure i asked my question at this stage

I don't understand how white balance and contrast settings inter-relate on this , but I tweaked a still from the sample clip with the method you had pointed me towards in another thread, setting the black and white points (I just use the levels dropper gadget in the program and click on a white, black or grey point). As you can see I've blown out the whites and the detail again with too heavy contrast BUT I really like the 'airiness' of the result still. The point to all this is that is there a way to capture the Technidisc and remove some of that slight darkness in some way WITHOUT blowing out whites/details?

If this increased 'lightness' effect is not appearing on your screen then please ignore another instance of my increasingly addictive habit of tweaking stuff, and I can safely assume its my monitor settings

ORIG http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=212cwaw&s=6

TWEAK http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=e7z4ua&s=6

Definitely interested, watched the mos eisley clip and the colours already look much more 'even',

It seems even a few percent here and there can make an instant difference between a harsh and smooth image

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I will be in Annapolis Aug 31-Sep 2. But I won't have a car.

I'm sort of imagining the tape being inside a manilla envelope inside a briefcase which is handcuffed to someones wrist who is also wearing sunglasses. I think maybe I'm getting too carried away reading this thread

Or after the tape it was recorded on the 'VK250' bootleg 

That's fair enough but protect this tape with your life until its safely transferred!