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#766644
Topic
General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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Danfun128 said:

fishmanlee said:

http://www.filmmusicnotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Imperial-March-recomposed.mp3

I thought this was interesting.

When you hear a song one way, to hear it so oddly is...odd

Why do I have a feeling that the file was produced by taking the standard imperial march from wherever and changing the pitch via Audacity or a similar program?

 Because it was.

Context:

http://www.filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-3-of-6-the-imperial-march-darth-vaders-theme/

The harmony of the first twenty bars of the march (the portion we hear in the film) also contributes to the dark color of the music. To start with, just about every chord we hear is a minor chord. The brighter, happier sound of major chords are completely banished from the music.

Also, like the opening riff of the march, the harmony Williams uses for the main melody are not your average chord progressions. This is especially clear in the second half of the melody, where the chords are i–#iv–#v–i in G minor. In tonal music, I–IV–V–I is a progression that firmly establishes the key of the music. But in the Imperial March, that progression is subjected to a strange distortion where IV and V are raised up by a semitone. And actually, the #v chord has exactly the same notes as the minor chord we heard in the riff (Eb-F#-Bb is here written as D#-F#-A#). So from this perspective, the chord in the riff is also this strange, distorted #v chord. Notice that both of the distorted chords, #iv and #v, are a very small distance (a semitone up) from being their regular versions:

02-Main-Melody---harmony

Had Williams used the regular versions of these chords instead, the march would have had a far more normal (and unremarkable) sound. The infusion of chords that almost sound like normal ones, and minor chords at that, gives the impression of a darkly abnormal, evil worldview. Just for fun, I’ve transposed these distorted chords down a semitone in the recording so you can hear what the march would sound like with the more normal chords. It becomes easier to hear how Williams has distorted the harmonies when this is compared with the original.

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#766165
Topic
The Star Wars Movie Score Unused/Replaced Music Restoration Thread (Released)
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Ronster said:


You might be running a tiny bit Late when R2-D2 is sucked up the Loading Pipe.... But I think what is happening there is John Williams scored the scene before they sped up the footage of R2-D2 being lifted up the pipe so that probably accounts for this discrepancy.

 I don't know about that, I compared it to the film, and it seemed the same..

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#766074
Topic
Idea, Info &amp; Help Wanted: &quot;Star Wars 2&quot; Audio Drama of the Leigh Brackett script to ESB
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TheBoost said:

There's one other position I'm looking for assistance in, and that's a music supervisor.

I'd like to avoid using the musical themes from ESB, and score this production with selections from the "Star Wars" score, and some of the auxiliary orchestral works.

  • The Star Wars Kinnect Game
  • The Clone Wars Soundtrack
  • The Force Unleashed Soundtrack
  • The Old Republic Sound Track
  • "Black Sunday" John Williams film score preceding "Star Wars."

I have all these albums, but I lack both time (writing and directing) and a particularly good ear for music. 

Would anyone like to go through the script, go through some records, and start picking out musical pieces? 

And I'll post auditions here as well. No set schedule yet, but I assume within a couple weeks. 

 I could do this.

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#761611
Topic
The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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Ronster said:

I am looking at it with a bit of an open mind because it would appear that the actual scene where Han is Loaded on to Slave 1 has a missing scene... This explains in the Gout the music for the Slave 1 scene being screwed up and cut short

It was meant to Have Fett climbing a ladder and saying "Seal it"

Also the whole Slave 1 sequence was meant to take place Just before the heroes ran through the door to try and save him from being carted off so it was moved because of script revision.

The special edition sorts the music problem out but also (This is the part I am not sure about...) Perhaps slows down the score so it joins the light saber duel and was perhaps never originally intended to?.

 It was.

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#761592
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***HELP NEEDED*** AOTC Musical Re-Score
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Smithers said:

Really like all of them except for the first one though, doesn't feel right for some reason, maybe it'll be better when the sound effects are in place and the music is less dominant? But I dunno, I don't dig it. Good work though! AOTC has one of the worst musical editing it's good that someone's going to give this a shot :-)

 It's too ethereal and watery IMO.

I thought the original cue was just fine, if a bit anonymous.

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#755058
Topic
Episode IV: A Ridiculous Hope
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TV's Frink said:

fishmanlee said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXze55Z2GuY

 I stopped watching after two seconds, because I had already planned on using Coming to America as one of my prime Vader sources and I don't want to get spoiled by random internet guy's ideas (yet).

Also, what sorcery is this where the "https" is decoded correctly by the forum software?

 I just used "Insert/Edit Link"