Due to a new source being found, I will be updating the eventually, stay tuned!
Return of the Jedi time!
[b]Vadar Contacts Luke (With Insert)[b]
You will notice if you line up the SE track with the deleted scene, that it doesn’t line up, this is due to microedits (6:08-6:12 is crossfaded out in the Blu-ray Deleted Scene) but also due to the fact that there is an insert added in (5:15-5:42). My theory is that the cut we see in the Blu-Ray scene is a shortened cut, and that this insert was written to cover it, but Lucas/Marquand decided to use the original cue cut down.
[b] The Iron Door/To Jabba’s Throne[/b]
I had a tough time lining these up, previous attempts at this placed “The Iron Door” over the droid sentry stuff and “To Jabba’s Throne” over R2 bumping into the Gamorrean, However that didn’t sit right with me, for three reasons:
#1 The titles of those cues didn’t match the placement, the title “The Iron Door” could have theoretically indicated Threepio and R2 trying to get inside the door, but the title “To Jabba’s Throne” didn’t really match anything that was going on in that part of his video.
#2 In the 1997 issue of the Film Score Monthly magazine Michael Matessino stated that the cues covered the opening of the door and for the reception of the droids by Bib Fortuna.
#3 It seemed odd to me that Williams would score that droid moment with dissonant music, as it seems more of a muted comedic bit, and the big fanfare seemed like it was too dramatic to cover anything other than a scene change.
[B]The Big Thaw (Original Version)[/B]
[B]A Strange Visitor[/B]
[B]Fight in the Dungeon (with deleted footage)[/B]
This one was a PAIN! I don’t really know if I got it correct, it seems like Williams scored a cut in between the one in the final film, and the one in the Rinzler eBook material.
[B]The Sarlacc Pit/Jabba’s End[/B]
Film Version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xik3FzlRZpLI1PKJ2mFOD4Y1aezimPWH/view?usp=sharing
Original Version: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qJ8QL05Mw7L1rr6pE_jcH6Ur4UO2cHYt
This one is probably incorrect.
[B]The Emperor (Original Version)[/B]
[B]Yoda’s Scene (Restored Opening)[/B]
[B]Luke and Ben[/B]
[B]Enter the Ewok - More Trouble (Original Version)[/B]
This has the original version of Vader and Palpatine’s conversation, the film and 1997 SE soundtrack uses an insert at 6:30-6:47 to shift the Emperor’s Theme earlier and replace part of the eerie quiet section.
[B]Using the Force[/B]
This is my attempt at recreating the original edit, since I had no real info to go on (except that there is footage of R2 in the background free of his bonds long before the Ewoks actually release him), I basically ended up just recutting the scene into a way that seemed to make some kind of sense.
Have the film start with the Fox fanfare even though Fox had nothing to do with it, maybe even have it be only a few seconds, like it was a mistake, wrong reel etc. (unless it rides too close to that rehash line you are trying to avoid)
AOTC’s Finale (Original)
Dooku Vs. Obi-Wan
Yoda Strikes Back
Entrance of the Monsters
The Arrival at Tatooine
The Spare Canister Caper
The Dinner Scene
The Meadow Scene
Finding Kamino (Original Ending)
Yeah, that makes sense.
BTW I posted a bunch of restored cues (with early edits of the footage) from ROTS if you want to go through that to see if there is anything you like (for example, maybe “Goodbye Old Friend”).
Dom, since you aim at replacing the soundtrack on many scenes, are you going to try something with the AOTC ending in order to remove the Vader’s theme that’s quite out of place here ? I’m thinking about trying myself with Shadow of the Empire soundtrack. Don’t know if feasible though.
Yeah I want to change that, but it might be hard to get something else to fit.
I know this post was a few months ago, but have you thought about using William’s own original version?
Some unused cues in ROTS restored to picture:
Goodbye Old Friend (Alternate):
Boys Into Battle (As Written)
Boys Into Battle (Revised Percussion)
Get Em’ R2
The Elevator Scene
Greivous and the Droids
I Am The Senate
Palpatine Instructs Anakin
Moving Things Along
A Home for the Twins (Original)
When Kylo kills Snoke have a voice (Anakin’s?) say “not fair!”
Or, use Finn’s “Come on, you have gotta be kidding me” from TFA.
Anakin Critiques some bread (ROTS YTP)
Though it looks like it is probably too late at this point anyway etc., I figured I would put my new music reworked for SirRidley’s cut of the Snoke scene here.
How about this compromise on the Main Title music:
Use the opening blast of the MT recorded for the TFA Trailer:
It still isn’t perfect, but it’s a little more impressive.
Thanks Hal!, I’ll definitely try to adapt to whatever the final cut of the Snoke scene turns out to be.
Here is the rescored Snoke scene (I used Hal’s cut of the scene):
Sir Ridley said:
The line sounds odd technically and the choice of words is peculiar (“swept aside”).
Well it does match Tarkin’s line about the senate in ANH 😉
I have composed a first pass at the Snoke scene, Rendering and uploading now.
Definitely works well!
Only issue is the quiet music starting 2:38, either 2:30-2:38 should be replaced with something quieter (or go unscored), or 2:39-2:48 should be replaced with something louder to keep the musical pace going.
Perhaps Hux’s “Fire!” should be made to sound a bit more like it is coming from a speaker? it sounds kind of silly coming out of the blue with so much clarity.
I might try to compose something to fit that recut. Maybe a building piece with a Timpani rhythm
Yeah, I mean in the final Snoke scene the music while it does have the choir and stuff is a little more loud and tense, so this scene should have something similar to that, not the earlier Snoke scenes.
BTW, Watched your Leia and the Starkiller 4 video, and while I miss the statement of the Han and Leia theme over the final shot of Leia that was originally her sensing Han’s death, I do like how it fades to silence and then snaps back into reality/action with Chewbacca’s roar, it reminds me of something from the Middle-Earth films or something.
And You’re Welcome! Maybe Frink will be able to find a use for them in TRA in 2049 😉
Off topic, but the sanitized version of Finn’s cheering Poe’s piloting skills from the Lego game is kind of funny.
Just thought I should mention that LEGO TFA has the SFX mix for the cutscenes as separate tracks.
Forgot to mention that it also has alot of SW Dialogue clean of music and sound effects.
If anybody is interested in them for their edits I have them
Old Republic trilogy, calling it now.
Whether Revan is in it or not is up in the air for me (I’d say it’s likely to include either Revan or Bane), but I bet Mandalore will be a major focus.
I am thinking more “Dawn of the Jedi”, seeing of TLJ deals with The First Jedi Temple in some capacity, it would make sense to use Johnson on a trilogy dealing with that.
Are people saying that it should be removed from the celebration? Can’t it just be implied he picked it back up while he was slowly dragging Vader’s body down to a shuttle bay?
It’s just me. And no big deal.
There are others out there that feel the same way about Luke giving up his saber.
Revised version available
Have Luke call Obi-Wan “Uncle Ben”