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Originally posted by: lordjedi
But this is not necessarily true with the latest DRM scheme the studios have cooked up for the hi-def formats. Right now, every Blu-ray player, whether hardware or software comes with a bunch of decryption keys. If someone cracks the key on a hardware player, that key is removed from the "acceptable" list of keys, which makes that player useless for playing future titles. The only way to make it work with future titles is through a firmware upgrade. So essentially, every Blu-ray and HD-DVD player is no different from a software hi-def player. The only difference is that they'll be harder to crack.
Of course, this functionality hasn't been implemented on any Blu-ray or HD-DVD titles yet (and I'm not convinced that the studios would ever do it), but it is there. I believe the studios have said they'd wait until 2008 or 2009 to start implementing it, so they do have the capability.
Originally posted by: ferris209
When I use DRM as an example, I mean you just know any downloaded content will have so much DRM that you would be lucky to get two whole full viewings of the movie before it deletes itself. Then even if you purchase a movie by download and try to watch it, you just know the industry will have all kinds of hell trying to get the various companies to be interchangeable, hardware wise. If I download an HD movie with some sort of crazy DRM security protocol then the network I use had better be able to decode that protocol, and you just know they'll update the DRM stuff each year. That's the mess DRM causes. Now if I bought the damn movie on a disc, it will play in any player I put it in, so long as it is disgned to play that format, regardless of the DRM which is on the disc.
When I use DRM as an example, I mean you just know any downloaded content will have so much DRM that you would be lucky to get two whole full viewings of the movie before it deletes itself. Then even if you purchase a movie by download and try to watch it, you just know the industry will have all kinds of hell trying to get the various companies to be interchangeable, hardware wise. If I download an HD movie with some sort of crazy DRM security protocol then the network I use had better be able to decode that protocol, and you just know they'll update the DRM stuff each year. That's the mess DRM causes. Now if I bought the damn movie on a disc, it will play in any player I put it in, so long as it is disgned to play that format, regardless of the DRM which is on the disc.
But this is not necessarily true with the latest DRM scheme the studios have cooked up for the hi-def formats. Right now, every Blu-ray player, whether hardware or software comes with a bunch of decryption keys. If someone cracks the key on a hardware player, that key is removed from the "acceptable" list of keys, which makes that player useless for playing future titles. The only way to make it work with future titles is through a firmware upgrade. So essentially, every Blu-ray and HD-DVD player is no different from a software hi-def player. The only difference is that they'll be harder to crack.
Of course, this functionality hasn't been implemented on any Blu-ray or HD-DVD titles yet (and I'm not convinced that the studios would ever do it), but it is there. I believe the studios have said they'd wait until 2008 or 2009 to start implementing it, so they do have the capability.
Uh, well, you learn something new everyday. Still, I'm none too confident in downloading being the premier way to get movies.
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
You can blame the mess of paper on government regulation. Just about anything dealing with accounting has to be printed and stored for years, it can't just be stored digitally. Hell, even giving over emails for a lawsuit have to be printed.
And actually, regarding CDs, while millions are still sold, digital music downloads are showing massive increases in percentage while CD sales are showing declines.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2006-01-04-music-sales-main_x.htm
You'll find the same DRM in Blu-ray and HD-DVD that any downloadable hi-def movie has. If a player gets hacked, they revoke the key and then unless you update your player, anything you buy after that is useless. The advantage downloadable hi-def movies would have over that is that the player would get automatically updated. Besides, I have no doubt that some hacker will find a way to crack the DRM scheme, whether it's downloaded or not.
As Internet connection speeds to homes get faster, downloading hi-def movies will become more and more viable.
And you can make me number three for people who were thinking of buying Blu-ray (as much as I don't like Sony) but are now waiting for a reasonably priced dual format player.
Originally posted by: ferris209
A lot of people keep saying that this format war is irrelevant because downloadable content will reign. I'm just not so sure, there are some things that people like to own, I mean physically, see it on your shelf, own. I, for one, am that way. I remember 15 or more years ago when people told me that paper would be a thing of the past by the year 2000, well here it is 2007 and I know my office kills more trees than a wooded backroad full of drunks. I also remember hearing that CD's would be obsolete too because of downloading music, while it has taken a blow, CD's are still going strong despite the downloadable music rage. IMHO downloadable HD movies will never be supreme for several reasons, first a lot of people like to actually own what they buy, not just the rights to use it. Second, DRM, nuff said. I could come up with more but I'm tired.
A lot of people keep saying that this format war is irrelevant because downloadable content will reign. I'm just not so sure, there are some things that people like to own, I mean physically, see it on your shelf, own. I, for one, am that way. I remember 15 or more years ago when people told me that paper would be a thing of the past by the year 2000, well here it is 2007 and I know my office kills more trees than a wooded backroad full of drunks. I also remember hearing that CD's would be obsolete too because of downloading music, while it has taken a blow, CD's are still going strong despite the downloadable music rage. IMHO downloadable HD movies will never be supreme for several reasons, first a lot of people like to actually own what they buy, not just the rights to use it. Second, DRM, nuff said. I could come up with more but I'm tired.
You can blame the mess of paper on government regulation. Just about anything dealing with accounting has to be printed and stored for years, it can't just be stored digitally. Hell, even giving over emails for a lawsuit have to be printed.
And actually, regarding CDs, while millions are still sold, digital music downloads are showing massive increases in percentage while CD sales are showing declines.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2006-01-04-music-sales-main_x.htm
You'll find the same DRM in Blu-ray and HD-DVD that any downloadable hi-def movie has. If a player gets hacked, they revoke the key and then unless you update your player, anything you buy after that is useless. The advantage downloadable hi-def movies would have over that is that the player would get automatically updated. Besides, I have no doubt that some hacker will find a way to crack the DRM scheme, whether it's downloaded or not.
As Internet connection speeds to homes get faster, downloading hi-def movies will become more and more viable.
And you can make me number three for people who were thinking of buying Blu-ray (as much as I don't like Sony) but are now waiting for a reasonably priced dual format player.
When I use DRM as an example, I mean you just know any downloaded content will have so much DRM that you would be lucky to get two whole full viewings of the movie before it deletes itself. Then even if you purchase a movie by download and try to watch it, you just know the industry will have all kinds of hell trying to get the various companies to be interchangeable, hardware wise. If I download an HD movie with some sort of crazy DRM security protocol then the network I use had better be able to decode that protocol, and you just know they'll update the DRM stuff each year. That's the mess DRM causes. Now if I bought the damn movie on a disc, it will play in any player I put it in, so long as it is disgned to play that format, regardless of the DRM which is on the disc.
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- #295672
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- celebrating 20 years of star trek the next generation
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Weird mine usually have Uhura in them.
Originally posted by: ferris209
Yeah. I love TNG, Counselor Troi is the subject of many of my favorite adolescent memories.
Yeah. I love TNG, Counselor Troi is the subject of many of my favorite adolescent memories.
Weird mine usually have Uhura in them.
Her too!
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- UFOs and Aliens
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- Video Games - a general discussion thread
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- General George Patton on the Iraq War
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General Patton on Iraq
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- Final Post. Ever. No more. & Something for you shitbrains to think about...
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- What are you listening to now?
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
agent smith as megatron what a joke, i hope someone uses the voice over on the videogame of welker for a fan edit.
agent smith as megatron what a joke, i hope someone uses the voice over on the videogame of welker for a fan edit.
Eh, I thought Weaving did a pretty good job.
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- Transformers: The Movie
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- Anyone here live in Austin Texas that can...
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
And they weren't afraid that Cullen's voice had "aged" and was "no longer suitable" for voicing the character?
Originally posted by: ferris209
I read somewhere that they really wanted to use Welker, but his voice had aged and was no longer suitable for the voice acting in the movie where people would hear it under the crystal clear systems they now have in modern theaters. He does, however, voice Megatron in the video game version of Transformers which accompanies this movie.
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
I just wish they weren't so manga-looking. And I'm not anti-manga by any means. Also, why is it they tried so hard to secure Peter Cullen (original voice of Optimus Prime) but rejected Frank Welker (original voice of Megatron) in favor of Hugo Weaving? Weaving is cool but c'mon, Welker's the one and only Megatron!
I just wish they weren't so manga-looking. And I'm not anti-manga by any means. Also, why is it they tried so hard to secure Peter Cullen (original voice of Optimus Prime) but rejected Frank Welker (original voice of Megatron) in favor of Hugo Weaving? Weaving is cool but c'mon, Welker's the one and only Megatron!
I read somewhere that they really wanted to use Welker, but his voice had aged and was no longer suitable for the voice acting in the movie where people would hear it under the crystal clear systems they now have in modern theaters. He does, however, voice Megatron in the video game version of Transformers which accompanies this movie.
And they weren't afraid that Cullen's voice had "aged" and was "no longer suitable" for voicing the character?
Well, they auditioned both just to make sure. Apparently, Michael Bay was extremely surprised that Cullen's voice hadn't aged at all.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/trivia
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- I had a Baby Girl this Morning!!
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- Transformers: The Movie
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- Transformers: The Movie
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
I just wish they weren't so manga-looking. And I'm not anti-manga by any means. Also, why is it they tried so hard to secure Peter Cullen (original voice of Optimus Prime) but rejected Frank Welker (original voice of Megatron) in favor of Hugo Weaving? Weaving is cool but c'mon, Welker's the one and only Megatron!
I just wish they weren't so manga-looking. And I'm not anti-manga by any means. Also, why is it they tried so hard to secure Peter Cullen (original voice of Optimus Prime) but rejected Frank Welker (original voice of Megatron) in favor of Hugo Weaving? Weaving is cool but c'mon, Welker's the one and only Megatron!
I read somewhere that they really wanted to use Welker, but his voice had aged and was no longer suitable for the voice acting in the movie where people would hear it under the crystal clear systems they now have in modern theaters. He does, however, voice Megatron in the video game version of Transformers which accompanies this movie.
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- Transformers: The Movie
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Going to see it on Saturday hopefully. I really want it to be good, but I dunno . . . we'll see . . . as it were.
In the meantime, who was everyone's favorite Transformer as a child?
Going to see it on Saturday hopefully. I really want it to be good, but I dunno . . . we'll see . . . as it were.
In the meantime, who was everyone's favorite Transformer as a child?

You'll be impressed, I was totally blown away. It is a rare occasion indeed whenever anything lives up to, or in this case exceeds, expectation.
I am the basic Optimus Prime fan. Real noble and brave with the natural leadership abilities that I have come to really respect, and hope for, in people.