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#111305
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Natalie Portman Goes CUEBALL!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by: greencapt
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Originally posted by: ricarleite

LOL!! She was having a Big Kahuna burger or something ("hmn, that's a tasty burger")...

I never knew of someone who was a vegetarian and is not anymore... But good to know that she enjoyed a burger...


Actually it happens in the States more than you'd think, ric. Its escpecially 'trendy' with college-age girls who go often go through several 'phases'.. the vegetatian phase, the lesbian phase, etc. These phases tend to pass as college progresses. I know this is an over-generalization but I've seen it happen to too many younger female friends. What's really sad is the number of guys I've known who have become 'vegetarians' so that they can try to score with the 'vegan bisexual' chicks.


LOL, so true. Never sell yourself out for a chic never! LOL dorks.
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#111297
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why do people like boba fett?
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I always thought fett just looked cool and thats it. I wasn't mad when he died or how he died, when it happened I was like oh fetts dead oh well, I never really saw him as a main character anyways, I was kind of glad he died because he thought he was so cool putting han in carbonite and he thought he couldn't be messed with, lol, what a dork I am. Anyways I always just made up my own stories with his toy, but for some reason every story I made up ended with him falling in the pit, oh well, fetts dead.
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#111294
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Am I the only one left??
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Originally posted by: Hoichi, the Earless
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Lucas is a schmuck who blew the opportunity of a lifetime. His name could have been right up there next to Tolkien as one of the greatest storytellers of the modern age and he blew the whole thing by not putting in the effort it deserved.


Thats why I come here, so many people who see the light. Lucas has indeed fucked it all up for everyone. He messed with something that wasn't broken. And in the process made quite possibly the biggest movie franchise in history into a laughing stock....you read my thoughts exactly...man, what a fuckin' sausage jockey.[/]

"I'm with you too!" LOL
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#111292
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"Hoooow is that possible..."
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Exactly what I was going to say Asha, those DVDs just don't exist and neither do the PTs.... Anyways, anyone know when GL will make prequels or sequels, man can't wait, wonder how vader got in the suit, and boba fett man he's soooo mysterious no way he could have been a clone and a annoying kid, no way people would buy that, right?, And 'The Force' gotta be something cool behind that, I mean you wouldn't say something unbelievable like its green mutant cells in your blood, no one with half a brain would go for that. But I guess we can rest assure that the prequels or sequels whatever comes out first, is in good hands with brilliant genius George Lucas at the helm........
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#108195
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Nice interview with Gary Kurtz to re-visit! (IGN interview in 2002)
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Do I have to hold your hands too? Ah well, here are some interesting snippetts:

IGNFF: From your personal experience, how would you compare the George you worked with on American Graffiti to the George you worked with towards the end of The Empire Strikes Back?

KURTZ: It was quite different, actually. He was very different. I think the most unfortunate thing that happened was the fact that Indiana Jones came along, and Raiders of the Lost Ark had come out in between. George and I had many, many discussions about that, but it boiled down to the fact that he became convinced that all the audience was interested in was the roller-coaster ride, and so the story and the script didn't matter anymore.

Now Raiders is not a bad film, but the script actually was much better than the finished film. There were a lot more nuances in the character, and there was less action. It would've been a better picture if that script had been made. But, as it is, it's an interesting and entertaining film – it's just that this idea that somehow the energy doesn't have to be put into getting really good story elements together. One of the arguments that I had with George about Empire was the fact that he felt in the end, he said, we could have made just as much money if the film hadn't been quite so good, and you hadn't spent so much time. And I said, "But it was worth it!"


IGNFF: In what context were their arguments?

KURTZ: There were several times when George had run-ins with the art department as well, because he was used to working on low budget films where he had to come up with all the solutions – so instead of saying, "What I'd really like to see here is something really interesting," and then the art department would go off and do it, he would say things like, "Put a new kind of antennae on that building and a funnel on this one." And John Barry, after a while he'd say, "Just tell me what you'd like to see, and let me deal with the details. That's what you're paying me for."

IGNFF: So it was delegation problems?

KURTZ: Yes, it was that. With the camera, it was the same thing. In a couple of scenes in the corridors, rather than saying, "It looks a bit over lit, can you fix that?", he'd say, "turn off this light, and turn off that light." And Gil would say, "No, I won't do that, I've lit it the way I think it should be – tell me what's the effect that you want, and I'll make a judgment about what to do with my lights."

IGNFF: Which seems pretty reasonable.

KURTZ: Yes, it does, but George had never worked with a crew like that before, and he also didn't like being here in England at all – he didn't like the food ... and he found that he wasn't the kind of director that chatted with the crew. He very rarely talked to anybody, except directly for instructions, and even then there wasn't a lot. Both the actors on American Graffiti and Star Wars complained that he didn't say enough to give them any feedback. That wasn't completely true, but it happened a lot where he would just say, "Let's try it again a little bit faster." That was about the only instruction he'd give anybody. A lot of actors don't mind – they don't care, they just get on with it. But some actors really need a lot of pampering and a lot of feedback, and if they don't get it, they get paranoid that they might not be doing a good job.

IGNFF: Is that kind of lack of communication just inherent in George's character?

KURTZ: Partially, I think it's the fact that George came out of a documentary film background. His style was to shoot a lot of footage and sit in the editing room and put it all together. He wasn't gregarious, he's very much a loner and very shy, so he didn't like large groups of people, he didn't like working with a large crew, he didn't like working with a lot of actors.

IGNFF: Ironic he would choose science fiction, which normally requires a lot of all of that.

KURTZ: The things that he liked the best were working in writing, which was pretty solitary, and working in the editing room, which was also solitary. It was fine... It was just that the crew expected a little more gregariousness from the director, and they kind of resented it, that it wasn't that way. They complained a lot. It was very nit-picky ...


IGNFF: Well what were the original outlines for the prequels? Since they can be compared and contrasted now that the first one's out there, and the second one's soon to be out there. Were there major differences from what you saw, from the original outlines of prequel ideas?

KURTZ: Well a lot of the prequel ideas were very, very vague. It's really difficult to say. I can't remember much about that at all, except dealing with the Clone Wars and the formation of the Jedi Knights in the first place – that was supposed to be one of the keys of Episode I, was going to be how the Jedi Knights came to be. But all of those notes were abandoned completely. One of the reasons Jedi came out the way it did was because the story outline of how Jedi was going to be seemed to get tossed out, and one of the reasons I was really unhappy was the fact that all of the carefully constructed story structure of characters and things that we did in Empire was going to carry over into Jedi. The resolution of that film was going to be quite bittersweet, with Han Solo being killed, and the princess having to take over as queen of what remained of her people, leaving everybody else. In effect, Luke was left on his own. None of that happened, of course.

IGNFF: So it would have been less of a fairy-tale ending?

KURTZ: Much, much less. It would have been quite sad, and poignant and upbeat at the same time, because they would have won a battle. But the idea of another attack on another Death Star wasn't there at all ... it was a rehash of Star Wars, with better visual effects. And there were no Ewoks ... it was just entirely different. It was much more adult and straightforward, the story. This idea that the roller-coaster ride was all the audience was interested in, and the story doesn't have to be very adult or interesting, seemed to come up because of what happened with Raiders of the Lost Ark and the Indiana Jones films – and the fact that that seemed to make a lot of money and it didn't matter whether there was a really good story or not – that wasn't what this kind of film was about. We had serious differences about a lot of that.

IGNFF: It was never George's intention to direct Empire?

KURTZ: No, no. After Star Wars, he didn't really want to direct the others. I think he was unhappy that I – I'm the one that recommended Kershner, and had worked with him before. I think he was a good choice for Empire, I think he worked really well, but he wasn't the kind of director... George, I think, had in the back of his mind that the director was a sort of stand-in – that he could phone him up every night and tell him what to do and kind of direct vicariously over the telephone. That never happened. Kershner's not that kind of director, and even when George showed up a couple of times on the set, he found that it wasn't easy to maneuver Kershner into doing what he would have done.

So, on Jedi, he was determined to find a director who was easy to control, basically, and he did. And that was the result, basically – the film was sort of one that George might have directed if he had directed it himself... but maybe not, because it goes through so many interim bits, that if he had directed it probably would have been quite different.



IGNFF: How did the arguments between you and George escalate during Empire?

KURTZ:With story material, some of the characters were complicated, and the scripts work well. He seemed to work best as a collaborative writer, where other writers came in and had some say in adding certain things so you'd get a variety of point of view, like