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People are reporting that is is indeed unedited.

Nelvana was good at fuzzy animal stuff.  Care Bears, etc.  They did a good job on the Ewoks series and I suspect that's why that series got renewed.

Droids and the Holiday Special always looked a bit wonky.

In 1985, nobody animated robots and spaceships better than the Japanese.  George missed an opportunity and I stand by that opinion.

With those 0079 movies there were two different Japanese tracks, though.  The vintage '70s track (it was either mono or stereo, can't remember) and then they totally rerecorded it decades later for DVD in 5.1.  Some actors had passed away by this point and had to be recast.  IIRC, the US DVD only has the rerecorded track.  There are fan-made versions out there that have all three tracks (70s, 5.1, and English)

I always wondered why in 1985, when everyone was using Japanese animation studios because they were good and cheap, George went with the weak Canadian studio Nelvana?

Now I watch this interview and find out that Tokyo Movie Shinsha (arguably the best TV animation studio at that time) actually did some sort of pilot to try and get a Star Wars cartoon series going.

It really bothers me that A) George blew this opportunity and B) I'll never get to see this footage and it will just rot away in some guy's attic.

"George, when are we going to get married!?"

GEORGE: (praying to his Crystal Skull to escape the Mayan Apocalypse)  Uh... 2013.  Yeah, definitely by 2013!!

I guess I wasn't the only one that noticed the Anakin similarities.

(I doubt it.)

I know some people really had a problem with Anakin killing a classroom of children in Episode 3.  It always annoyed me (why couldn't Palpatine or the Clone Troopers have done it?), but never disturbed me.  But now it does.

There is no redemption for that.  Saving your son from an evil wizard doesn't undo that kind of sin.  You don't get to come back as a youthful, happy ghost.

Seriously George, Han Solo shooting a damn BEM bounty hunter in self-defense needs to be censored, but Anakin killing kids is OK because he "brings balance to the Force"?

 I really hope Adywan fixes this when he gets to Ep3.  Change the perpetrator to the Clone Troopers or Palpatine.  Or just cut the scene completely.  That scene was mainly just for nepotism anyways.

I've written about this before, but I'll summarize.  I was seven when Jedi came out and I loved it.  So did all my friends.  But I remember my mom complaining about some things after we saw it, like Luke & Leia being siblings. 

I noticed that older kids (those that were teens when Jedi came out) did not hold the movie in as high regard.  Usually the Ewoks were the divisive element for them. 

As my friends and I got older and our tastes developed, we too began to notice how much better made ANH & ESB were.  All this was pre-WWW, BTW.  So by default, ROTJ became the worst of the trilogy.  Along the way, I suppose, people might have misconstrued "worst of the trilogy" into "lousy movie."

Of course, now it's become the 3rd best of the Hexalogy.

A new Star Wars Project.

As a kid I used to hate the Star Wars Project because I'd hear the news anchors on TV say, "Star Wars" I'd get all excited thinking it was going to be about new movies or something.

I'd also like to see this set 30 years later, with Luke in the Obi-Wan mentor role.  Maybe Leia & Han's offspring seeks out their long lost uncle Luke to train in the Jedi arts.

The Empire should still be around, just with a reduced territory.  Coruscant, for example, could still be held by them.  (Just say that the uprising shown in ROTJ-SE was quelled.)  The New Republic idea could still be used, but they should be a small government only consisting of a few dozen systems.  This way you could basically still have the same conflicts as the OT-- the Republic trying to win back systems from the Empire.  Have some Sith still pulling the strings with the Empire and explore what exactly the Sith are.

Bingowings said:

Or when the USA and UK joined forces with the USSR to liberate Europe from and Asia from Fascism.

That was so implausible.

 

My friends went on to list other comparisons, like "when the Autobots and Decepticons had to join forces to stop Unicron", when the Super Friends and Legion of Doom had to join forces to stop some evil witch, etc.

In short, it's a worn-out trope that's often employed by Saturday morning cartoons.

Other fans hate them because they were too "sci-fi" and not "sci-fantasy".

Personally, I think there's a lot of mileage left in the Sith still.  All the Darth characters were great, IMHO, just underused and undeveloped in the PT.  We really don't know anything about them (except for the EU) yet.  Have them get rid of the silly "only two there are" rule and let them really cut loose.

Bingowings said:

A powerful enemy that would unite the remains of the Empire with the Alliance.

I ignore the EU, but several of my friends were really into it during before the PT came along.  They hated that element of the storyline and said it reminded them of "that episode of Masters of the Universe when He-Man and Skeletor had to work together to fight a larger foe."

That photoshop would work better with ol' Walt as a force ghost (replacing Anakin).

Oh yeah, I forgot to ask, how are the apologists handling this?

Damn, zombie's next book will be getting a new chapter!  The Fall of the Lucas Empire!

I've suspected some sort of "vote of no confidence" thing was going on behind the scenes at LFL.  The failures of Red Tails, TPM3D, and that SW TV show that never got off the ground must have had some kind of impact.  I'd love to know what went down behind the scenes and maybe zombie can find some people that will talk.

I agree with those that say it can't get worse than where we were yesterday.

I also think a new petition should be done up ASAP.

Yeah, there is no legit version with English subs.

This is why my friend in Japan may not do this project (and if he does, he probably won't distribute it.):

Japan Bans Illegal Downloads & Ripping

(This website may contain NSWF material.)

Tobar said:

Here's a better mirror in the original resolution AND with sound effects!

WOW, that's amazing!  I can't wait until it's finished!

I can't believe there's actually "fans" upset about this video.

bantuwind said:

 

Anyone who praises this, yet rags on the Clone Wars series is one dumb [censored] .

Recreating dog fights from Star Wars isn't a story. But as long as it has pretty... pictures and tugs on your nostalgia strings, I guess it's a-okay!
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The dog fights in Star Wars were great because of their context. This has no context. It looks neat. Great! So did Transformers for 2 minutes... hypocrites.

It got taken down; here's a mirror (with lame music added in)

http://youtu.be/0fksh8QVer0

I've sent him the link to this thread and he may or may not reply.  As you may already know, the corporations successfully enacted all kinds of laws there akin to DMCA and SOPA.

I'm not an expert on the subject, but I believe the reason this will never get released in the US is because Harmony Gold (the Robotech people) are falsely claiming ownership of anything related to Macross in the US,  even though they were only entitled to the original TV series.

For some reason, Japan and the US are in the same Blu-ray region.  So I was going to import this, but now I am not.

The censorship has been confirmed now.  A friend of mine in Japan with the censored Blu-ray and the uncensored DVDs is talking about doing a fanedit.

So saddened to see Japan pulling a “Greedo” on us.

Macross Movie Blu-ray to Have Changes From 1984 Original

the two … versions both have shots altered as part of the retakes and restoration under the supervision of director Shoji Kawamori.

Audience members reported that at least two violent shots of the film were altered in the screenings, …  Namco Bandai Games reiterated online that both versions have changes from the film’s original 1984 version.

People are already requesting a fan restoration.

This poor movie is already entangled in decades of legal wrangling that prevents it from being released in the USA and now this.

I also heard that there was a falling out between Ray Park and Lucas.  Supposedly he had voiced opposition to perceived racism in TPM and Lucas then axed him as fight choreographer from the following prequels.

Heard similar things about the guy that played Captain Panaka.  That he found Jar Jar racist and refused to be in AOTC.

But I never found anything in print to verify that. 

Anthony Daniels:
[George Lucas'] devotion to digital effects overbalanced the films. Too many digital funky characters become a little bit wearing. The storytelling always gets subsumed.

I'm happy to see that you guys agree with me.  (I kind of thought you would.)

I never heard any complaints about his acting during the Star Wars heyday.  It wasn't until the '90s that it became "hip" to diss him, ironically right around the time he started kicking ass as The Joker on TV.  (Most people didn't know it was him doing the voice.)

To a lesser extent, I've seen similar slams against Carrie Fisher.  (Lack of big roles after Star Wars = Bad actress)

Whenever people pull this on forums, I try to set them straight.  Thankfully I don't see it very much anymore.  I think the prequels showed people what bad Star Wars really was.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Bashing Hamill's acting ability is the "in" thing to do, don'tcha know?

It has been for a while.  But I'm surprised people are still saying this.  The prequels proved that George's writing & directing can make anyone look bad.  The young actors (like Hamill, Portman) especially suffered.  I imagine George never pulled his "faster/intense" crap on older vets like Guiness.

Criticism of Hamill usually boils down to these two things.  Here's what I say whenever I hear them.

1.) "That Tosche station line sucked!"

Well who do you think wrote it?  Who do you think commanded his actors to  blurt out every line fast and intense?  Because what's on screen is the result of that.

2.) "Hamill's career didn't go nowhere after Star Wars!  That means he's a bad actor!"

No, and no.  He's had a great career as a voice actor.  A bad actor would not be able to cut it in that field.
Also, he was typecast as Luke Skywalker and thus lost jobs for it like the movie Amadeus.  Lots of actors suffer this prejudice and it has nothing to do with their acting ability.