I saw it in CDS 70mm and do not remember that, not saying it was wrong but the making of is not the the best reference
Stamper said:
If I may note, watch the T2 making of for the opening scenes in the biker's bar.
Those scenes in 1991 were color timed blue as they appear in this making of (it was edited prior to the film release), however, since laserdisc and DVD and Blu-ray, the scene is now warm orange brown.
I feel any "restoration" project should get those scenes back to the theatrical colors they had originally.
That means nothing, edited before release means more than likely the wrong timing.
I agree there are issues with colour and personally sound
Intresting colours and sounds here http://siskelandebert.org/video/GD1Y4DDD53BR/Terminator-2-Naked-Gun-2-12-Europa-Europa-1991
Not yet, I still look most weeks tho
AntcuFaalb said:
dvdmike said:
AntcuFaalb said:
Does anyone have the LD?
Some LDDb people claim that the color-timing was changed for the DVD and that the LD has the original color-timing.
I doubt anyone does it is silly expensive
I know some people on LDDb do. What frames should I ask them to capture or photograph?
The ones above would be perfect
AntcuFaalb said:
Does anyone have the LD?
Some LDDb people claim that the color-timing was changed for the DVD and that the LD has the original color-timing.
I doubt anyone does it is silly expensive
CatBus said:
It was significantly less odd to me after I saw it looked pretty much exactly like the original 35mm film references. Also the fact that the stated goal of KOTCS was to look like ROTLA, if taken at face value, makes it pretty much the opposite of odd.
Bulb-matching is a real thing. If you just scan the film on your typical neutral-to-cool flatbed scanner, it may look great--even more lifelike--but not like it looked in the theatres during its original run. Lots of older films have taken on a much more golden hue and muted palette after they went through the trouble of bulb matching. The Godfather films on BD, for example, look practically sepia throughout with the strong yellow cast, but that restoration was overseen by Robert Harris--and much as I like to armchair general things, I trust his judgment (on his own work, at least) that this is just "how it looked"--even if scans of those exact same sources using a neutral light source results in something that looks more like the DVD releases or television cuts, or even how that exact same film looked projected using a later-vintage bulb in the nineties.
EDIT: This does bring up a film purity question, though. If the films from this era were all projected with a heavily biased light source, which is the accurate color? Is the film in the can or the film on the screen definitive? I think a fairly strong case could be made that WOWOW may represent the colors of the film "in the can", which nobody actually saw until much later, while the Blu-ray represents the colors of the film "on the screen" which only looked that way due to the very yellow bulbs in common use at the time. IMO neither colors would be "wrong" or "not original", although only the yellowish ones could be fairly called "theatrical".
Harris is amazing with photo chemical but useless with Digital, the man loved the Dracula BD
Still from the set and a late 90s cinema screening, it looked like the wowow does no one else think that it is a little odd that the film now looks exactly like Skull?
CatBus said:
AntcuFaalb said:
dvdmike said:
AntcuFaalb said:
stretch009 said:
dvdmike said:
Orange flags......
What does this mean? Please be kind.
I think he's referring to the red Nazi flags looking orange on the BD.
It was changed to gold to match Kingdom, it is not the 1980's timing at all
Is that including the impact that an 80s projection bulb would have on the colortiming?
At least the orange painted flags were preserved. They are the about the same orangish red on the BD as on the 35mm prints. Lacking a reference, can't say for certain about the cloth flags, but it would seem odd for someone to change those while leaving most everything else untouched (or at least leaving all of the frames we have 35mm references for untouched). Not that stranger things haven't happened, with the sleeves of a certain cantina patron...
In one of the threads I found a 35mm still with the flags at the ark scene, they were red on set and when I saw it 35mm, also grass was green in the opening
AntcuFaalb said:
stretch009 said:
dvdmike said:
Orange flags......
What does this mean? Please be kind.
I think he's referring to the red Nazi flags looking orange on the BD.
It was changed to gold to match Kingdom, it is not the 1980's timing at all
Asaki said:
djchaseb said:
Just hoping they stay true to source material and not ruin the color timing or DNR it to hell.
and not through Criterion, but I'm sure it will be a great improvement over the Blu we have now.
Well I haven't seen anyone complain about the director-approved Total Recall BD that came out recently =)
...only complaint I have is that it still isn't the unrated version =( I would love to have that.
I absolutely fucking hate it
Looks brand new
Got a file that plays perfect in VLC and barely at all in MPC.....
Orange flags......
I have the 720p Dracula with the Superbit DTS and Criterion Commentary somewhere
I have the making of True Lies in decent quality
WHat about Career Opportunities? It is on Netflix in HD
AntcuFaalb said:
DoomBot, dvdmike: I prefer the US theatrical cut as well.
I am with Rami, and I saw it first with the EU cut
Turisu said:
So is there a BD available in any country that has the extra scenes and the S-Mart ending? I'm not bothered about the "guy with the gun" line.
The german has every version
dark_jedi said:
Well I have this one and from what I read it is the best, but I think both of these I have are the same myself, maybe not.
German
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Army-of-Darkness-Blu-ray/65632/France
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Army-of-Darkness-Blu-ray/61907/
They are the same I have both and they are per bit identical as I proved in another thread here and on that other site, but both are miles better than the US even if thay are far from perfect.
There is no better source
AntcuFaalb said:
Suggestion: Army of Darkness (1993)
The "Screwhead Edition" BD is terrible. EE gone wild! The HD-DVD is much better.
I can provide the HD-DVD, if needed.
We have like 2 BD's with better sources now
Matt_Stevens said:
TOMBSTONE would be great if we could restore the longer cut. But I believe only the Theatrical cut has been shown on HD. The Extended cut DVD is riddled with Edge Enhancement and that is not something you can get rid of.
The TC has some odd digital mess going on also
Do we have the DTS?
vadertyme said:
I have a couple of suggestions for future Team Blu projects as it appears that there are no releases coming any time soon:
Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight
YES YES YES YES YES!!! it is on Netflix but yes!
That and Career Opportunities are so hard to find in decent HD OAR
It's the way to go minus the teal, but that's an easy fix