digitalfreaknyc

oojason said:

Star Wars: A New Hope - Modern Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nywPf1p-BBY

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back - Modern Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xESiohGGP7g

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back - Modern Trailer 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfactF_SDo

Star Wars: Return of The Jedi - Modern Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYD_xxY5wEI

Dear God those are awful

SilverWook said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

SilverWook said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

SilverWook said:

That a documentary made in 2004 wasn’t shot in HD, (if only to future proof it) is weird.

Are you kidding? There were tv shows back then not filmed in HD, nevermind a silly documentary.

Shows shot on videotape, sure. Again, the industry knew HD was around the corner. Unless those involved thought a comprehensive doc about Star Wars and it’s impact on the world was an ephemeral project.

You consider EOD silly?

Absolutely. It was crap. Really didn’t tell us anything that we didn’t know.

And, in 2004, HD wasn’t just “around the corner.” It came out in 2002 but that doesn’t mean everything was being shot that way. I doubt the budget was that high on this but who knows? Regardless, HD was still relatively new at the time.

High Definition video was around in the 80’s. At least one tv movie and a feature film were shot in the earliest HD format.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093092/

The first HD broadcast in the US was in June of 2002. I’m not talking about HD as a format.

TV’s Frink said:

So…you finally went and looked up “monolithic” then?

Yeah. Sure did. And then I went and looked up condescending.

TV’s Frink said:

I just proved it isn’t. And there were a lot more people like me than people like you when this came out. That’s probably still the case.

No fan base is monolithic. You can’t find me a single one that is.

Here’s another example…how many people care about the EU? How many have read a single book or comic? 0%? 100%?

And because you hadn’t watched the other available documentaries, that proves that you were an uneducated consumer. That’s exactly who they were marketing this to.

Yep. That doesn’t make EOD crap, it just makes it crap for you.

Like the Indy docs, the only saving grace was the new “original” footage, be it behind the scenes or outtakes. Otherwise, the interviews were just recycled stories.

Recycled for you.

Yes. For me. Recycled crap. Watched once and done. But feel free to make it about all of fandom when that wasn’t my intent at all.

But, yeah, I’d say that if you learned a lot by watching it, you probably haven’t seen or read much about these movies previous to that.

chyron8472 said:

Bobby-ORT said:

I guess most of us would be willing to fork out insane money to have an official 4k BR release with the extras to go with that

With the bitrate at which Harmy releases the 720p Despecialized Edition nearly filling up a BD25, it makes me wonder what the filesize would be for a 4K version of a similar bitrate.

…not that I care about 4K, myself. I just wonder.

4k uses a different codec.

TV’s Frink said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

SilverWook said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

SilverWook said:

That a documentary made in 2004 wasn’t shot in HD, (if only to future proof it) is weird.

Are you kidding? There were tv shows back then not filmed in HD, nevermind a silly documentary.

Shows shot on videotape, sure. Again, the industry knew HD was around the corner. Unless those involved thought a comprehensive doc about Star Wars and it’s impact on the world was an ephemeral project.

You consider EOD silly?

Absolutely. It was crap. Really didn’t tell us anything that we didn’t know.

I consider this viewpoint silly. We aren’t a monolithic fanbase, and EOD was the first SW documentary I watched. It told me plenty I didn’t know and showed my lots of footage I hadn’t seen. It got progressively worse as it went along (especially the very end where it turned into a Lucas-is-great lovefest), but I found it captivating for the most part.

Since when is the Star Wars fan base NOT monolithic?! And because you hadn’t watched the other available documentaries, that proves that you were an uneducated consumer. That’s exactly who they were marketing this to.
Like the Indy docs, the only saving grace was the new “original” footage, be it behind the scenes or outtakes. Otherwise, the interviews were just recycled stories.

SilverWook said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

SilverWook said:

That a documentary made in 2004 wasn’t shot in HD, (if only to future proof it) is weird.

Are you kidding? There were tv shows back then not filmed in HD, nevermind a silly documentary.

Shows shot on videotape, sure. Again, the industry knew HD was around the corner. Unless those involved thought a comprehensive doc about Star Wars and it’s impact on the world was an ephemeral project.

You consider EOD silly?

Absolutely. It was crap. Really didn’t tell us anything that we didn’t know.

And, in 2004, HD wasn’t just “around the corner.” It came out in 2002 but that doesn’t mean everything was being shot that way. I doubt the budget was that high on this but who knows? Regardless, HD was still relatively new at the time.

SilverWook said:

That a documentary made in 2004 wasn’t shot in HD, (if only to future proof it) is weird.

Are you kidding? There were tv shows back then not filmed in HD, nevermind a silly documentary.

Williarob said:

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Williarob said:

It should now be on the organ…

Let me know if you have any problems.

Do you mind if I ask how you captured it?

nickyd47 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Bill Hunt has just found out that the negative was conformed to the Special Edition. The man on the Steve Hoffman Forums that worked on the DVD back in 2004 said after reading Bill Hunt’s piece, “I’ve been saying that since 2004”.

Well, atleast we have official confirmation that the original clippings have been maintained.That’s something

Who said the original clippings have been maintained? That’s not what was said at all.

I miss Babyhum 😦

If anyone wants the discs of the original releases, I’ve now ripped them all to Blu-ray. Please let me know and I’ll be happy to mail them…

MrBrown said:

What is your problem in ripping it yourself? Sadly, I don’t have the disc, or I could rip it.

I have neither the disc nor the hardware. And a little over the top to get it for one disc where I just need the bonus feature, not the film itself.

captainsolo said:

The worst case scenario is if Disney just half heartedly jumps into uhd with lackluster 4K upres discs of outdated masters like some studios have done.
Imagine the bds merely on a BD-66 with slightly greater file sizes.

File size has nothing to do with it when a more efficient codec is used. That’s apples and oranges.

I know it’s been a couple years but I’m still looking for Poseidon (or someone who will rip it for me if I send them the disc). Any takers?

DominicCobb said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Was that supposed to be funny?

Just the truth ™.

Don’t quit your day job.

DominicCobb said:

10 years after Star Wars, the film Witches of Eastwick was released. What do those two have in common? Musical scores by John Williams. Believe it or not, Cher was the star of that film, which, of course, makes her the most obvious candidate to do a review of the original Star Wars in its unaltered form before its 4K UHD HDR 3D Blu-ray Digital VR release.

Now, I know what you’re thinking. But wouldn’t Cher be under an NDA? Well no, because REMEMBER she won an Oscar in 88 for Moonstruck, and, after last Sunday’s Best Picture kerfuffle with Moonlight, the accounting firm of Price Waterhouse Coopers, being in some deep shit, nullified all legal contracts. WHICH MEANS Cher’s NDA is up, but, she still needs to save face with Lucasfilm OBVIOUSLY because of her upcoming Sy Snootles anthology film (keep up, won’t you?).

So then how do we know all of this? HELLO of course she still wants fans to know what’s up, so she’s been sending coded signals for months via her Twitter account.

Just look at this tweet from February 2 (https://twitter.com/cher/status/827226043467456513):

FYI ARENA IS AMAZING.SO 🌬❄️
Rehearsed on Stage,Sang,Danced. I’m still Somewhat of a clod. New opening costume…You’ll need smelling salts 🤣

Okay let’s break this down. So we all know that “Arena” is referring to Season 1 Episode 18 of the original Star Trek. That’s not a coincidence. Notice how the word “original” is very similar to the word “original” in “original trilogy,” or how the word “Star” is very similar to the word “star” in “Star Wars.” Fascinating, right? She then says “Rehearsed on Stage,Sang,Danced.” I don’t know what that means. But THEN she says “I’m still Somewhat of a clod.” the word “still” meaning the same - as in same as in the 70s - and notice the capitalized “S” as in the capitalized “S” in “SE” which stands for “Special Edition”! The rest of the tweet of course refers to the new packaging and smellovision feature.

Now, stick with me here, because this one’s a doozy. On March 4, she tweeted this (https://twitter.com/cher/status/838273936848670720):

WATCHING 1ST STAR WARS IN THEATRE.SPECIAL EFFECTS OLD,BUT ❤️IT.REMINDS ME OF 1st TIME. HANS,CHEWY,LUKE,OLD BEN,
👑LEIA,DARTH VADER,HYPERSPACE

Don’t let the caps lock distract you, she specifically mentions the words “watching” and “old.” Put these two words together - “watching old.” Watching old what Cher? Could it be an old movie? Could it maybe even be gasp Star Wars?

I guess we’ll all find out when she shows up at Celebration.

Was that supposed to be funny?

SilverWook said:

Maybe if there was a way to ask her what she actually watched? 😉

I don’t have Twitter. Feel free 😃

nickyd47 said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

nickyd47 said:
Most likely a private screening in her own theater. Which version? Probably the Special Edition. Unless she’s a film collector and has an original print

Maybe…but I doubt it. A hunch tells me Cher wouldn’t post about this if she had control over it.

So you think she saw this at some theater somewhere? And you think it’s the OOT?

It’s one possibility.

As I said elsewhere…either:

1. She or someone she knows has a 35mm print.

2. She was watching a public showing of a new print which may or may not be the OUT.

Look at the things she usually posts about - they’re all very, very political. If she decided to throw on a blu-ray in her own home theater, I don’t think it would warrant a tweet. That makes me think it was “an event.”

nickyd47 said:
Most likely a private screening in her own theater. Which version? Probably the Special Edition. Unless she’s a film collector and has an original print

Maybe…but I doubt it. A hunch tells me Cher wouldn’t post about this if she had control over it.

Saw this posted today.

So the question is…where was she and what did she watch?

Random question - is the celebration panel going to be streamed?

What else was included in those archives?

Editroid said:

I’d love it if someone made a custom Blu-Ray cover of the Despecialized Trilogy for a single 3-disc Blu-Ray case, similar to how the official Blu-Rays for the OT and PT were bundled separately back in 2011.

Someone did. That’s the artwork I use

CatBus said:

The Star Wars trilogy films are easily the three most popular films unavailable on home video today. So there will always be unscrupulous people trying to cash in on the chasm between supply and demand, and unfortunately Despecialized makes it easy. The best leverage we have against unscrupulous dealers is to make sure all Star Wars fans know about Despecialized, and that it’s free – erode the demand for these bootlegs, in other words. Other than that, we’re just putting out fires on eBay until Star Wars enters the public domain and we can get a real commercial release – and none of us will live to see that day.

Unfortunately, there are too few people who have burners or know what to do with them. So they’ll rely on other people to do it because they can’t be bothered. The supply nor the demand will ever go away.