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#733212
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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NeverarGreat said:

Handman said:

SilverWook said:

Please let this be true!

http://www.starwars7news.com/2014/10/rumor-star-wars-episode-vii-trailer-music-to-be-recorded-next-month-by-john-williams-first-teaser-this-christmas.html

 Do you guys think it would be possible for an Ep. VII teaser to appear for Disney's new animated movie coming out later this year? I do.

Big Hero 6? That comes out on Nov. 7, whereas this rumor has JW finishing the music on Nov. 15.

 

Handman said:

 Well, there goes that theory.

 

''Into The Woods'' is a Disney movie/musical that premiers on December 25th, it casts Meryl Streep and a bunch of known names so it's a perfect occasion to showcase that teaser! The rumor is taking shape fellas

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#732599
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Anyone else blase' about the New trilogy?
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.Mac. said:

I sense a great deal of pessimism in this thread.

 And it's totally understandable, if we could imagine that this thread is happening 15 years ago before TPM came out I bet that everyone would be in a orgasmic joy since all the reasons to think that the PT is going to be equal or better than the OT are there: Same guy who created SW is behind the PT... what could go wrong?? Then 15 years later, here we are wondering what the f*** George did. I think that we all disagree at some point on how bad the PT was but we all agree that the PT IS worse than the OT.

It's funny if you come to think that the fact that Lucas isn't behind the ST is actually what creates a good expectation because we don't know if it's going to suck or not, if Lucas were the man behind the ST as he was on the PT we would be far more pessimistic.

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#732418
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Last web series/tv show seen
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DuracellEnergizer said:

I think it's every sci-fi/horror fan's duty to watch The X-Files at least once. The mytharc with the alien conspiracy is an internally inconsistent, incoherent mess that goes absolutely nowhere, but the excellent characters along with the standalone monster-of-the-week episodes more than make up for those failures.

 

Erik Pancakes said:

Seconded that The X Files is required viewing for any ... well, for anybody, really. Personally, I recommend watching seasons 1-5, the first movie, and seasons 6-7 in that order. Even though the season isn't very good and Season 6 wrapped up the mytharc, Requiem is exactly how the show should have ended, and other S7 episodes offer closure for other lingering storylines that Season 6 didn't wrap up.

Season 8 is actually slightly better than Season 7, but it tries to start up a new, not-very-interesting mytharc, and Season 9 is just abysmal, leading to a clip-show series finale that sets up a movie ending we never got (and at this point, we probably won't ever get).

X files It's now on my short term to do list, I'll give it a shot.

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#732289
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Last web series/tv show seen
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I finished Breaking Bad a few weeks ago, it's a masterpiece. I feel that they rushed the last season or at least the 2nd half of it, a 6th season was totally doable.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I've lately gotten the irresistable urge to rewatch The X-Files, and over the past week I voraciously ate through the first season.

Beyond the fact that I really like the first season -- the lack of comedic episodes notwithstanding -- I haven't much more to say. I suppose I'll just end this post with a list of episodes I consider the best and worst of the season.

BEST EPISODES

"Beyond the Sea"

"Pilot"

"Deep Throat"

"Squeeze"

"Tooms"

WORST EPISODES

"Space"

"Gender Bender" (The majority of this episode actually wasn't bad. The ending, however, is incredibly, blatantly, weak.)

 I've seen zero episodes of The X Files and don't know why, now that I come to think about it I've never met someone that mentioned it to me at some point, weird.

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#732189
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What's the best order to use when watching the Star Wars saga?
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RicOlie_2 said:

I would recommend, like everyone else, Harmy's editions if you want something close to the original, but Adywan's, if you want a better special edition than the one we got and something that helps tie the OT and the PT together, visually.

As for the PT, I enjoy watching them occasionally, but don't think they really add much to the saga, storywise (in fact, storywise, I think they detract from the saga). Visually, however, they're a fun addition with all the new planets, environments, spaceships, and of course the war aspect of it.

 I'll look for the Adywan's edits then, last time I saw the SE's was when they came out on theaters.

RicOlie_2 said:

I didn't think to recommend it before, but TV's Frink's edits of Episodes I and II are probably (read: definitely) more worth it than the actual movies.

 Noted ;)

TV's Frink said:

There are a lot of people here who prefer Ep 1 over 2 and 3, mainly because it is closer in tone to an actual Star Wars movie.  And there's CPY, of course.

 Is understandable indeed;
and what's CPY?

AntcuFaalb said:

I find Jar Jar to be significantly less annoying than Hayden Christensen's wooden Anakin performance. I'd take "meesa" and "yousa" over "I don't like sand" any day.

With that being said, I think you'll find that many around these parts prefer Episode I over the other two. I think it has more to do with our opinion that it feels more like a Star Wars movie than the others, despite its overall low quality. This is probably due to its tone and the fact that it visits a planet (namely, Tatooine) very familiar to OT fans.

I don't like Episode III because I believe that its attempt at a dark tone feels artificial and forced. I also don't enjoy 45-minute-long lightstaber duels. The following post might help you understand why I like Episode III the least. http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Episode-VII-Discussion-WARNING-HEREIN-LIE-SPOILERS/post/731906/#TopicPost731906

 I understand why TPM is more appreciated for hard OT fans as an overall SW movie but as far as the SW plot the Ep. II and III contributes more to the OT storyline, and is not necessarily because those are better movies but because they happen to be the closest episodes to the OT. Also I saw your post and well... what can't be ''hyped'' these days? Sad but true.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I prefer the 456123 order because it doesn't spoil all the best surprises in the PT.  Even the SE spoils some surprises, such as seeing Jabba before we meet him in the palace.  Also, the PT is so bad that you get the wrong idea about the personalities involved, so it is harder to enjoy them when you get to the OT.

And I also prefer ep1 to either 2 or 3, because the latter two are just too non-stop frenetic and have too much crap in them.  Ep3 is like watching a 2-hour videogame.  Ep1 at least has the pacing of a SW movie.  Jar Jar doesn't bother me that much.  And I'll take creepy puppet yoda any day over fighting-like-he-stuck-his-tail-in-the-light-socket Yoda.

This makes me wonder why I'm less tolerant with Ep I than the other two since I understand all that you said and can't say it's a lie, I guess I enjoy the PT but in a different way that I enjoy the OT.

KilroyMcFadden said:

I'll be more clear...

If you are dead set on watching all six movies, which I wouldn't do, I would watch in this order...

1. Wars - Harmy's edit

2. Empire - Harmy's edit

3. Jedi - Harmy's edit

4. Menace - Fall of the Jedi edit

5. Clones -  - Fall of the Jedi edit

6. Sith -  - Fall of the Jedi edit

What is Fall of the Jedi?  here is a link to the trailer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HesmWVhuTg4

+1 on preferring Menace.  never watch the other two prequels, but I will occasionally watch GL's edit of Menace because it still has more moments than not that feel like a Star Wars movie.   Clones and Sith are just so. fucking. awful.

Also +1 on The Ridiculousnesses.   

 Noted, Fall of the Jedi and Frink's to the queue :)

ray_afraid said:

The thread title is misleading.
This seems to happen often around here lately.

 I don't see how is misleading but I may be missing something... would you mind to elaborate?

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#732122
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What's the best order to use when watching the Star Wars saga?
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Beatleboy99 said:

Skip the prequels altogether and get Harmy's versions. Don't waste your precious time.

 I know the OT is the real deal but do you think that the PT doesn't contribute at all to the SW saga? Not even a positive thing? I'm just trying to get a different perspective here since even though I'm a big OT fan I do see some value in the PT despite it's lameness.

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#732109
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What's the best order to use when watching the Star Wars saga?
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KilroyMcFadden said:

If you _must_ watch all 6 movies without skippinh any, I would recommend, in order, Harmy's edits, 4-6 and then Fall of the Jedi, 1-3.    

 So you mean the chronological order? Also,what is ''Fall of the Jedi''?

TV's Frink said:

I use my eyes and some glasses.

 "Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them. Stretch out with your feelings"

AntcuFaalb said:

I prefer 4, 5, 6, sometimes 1, and sometimes a fan edit of 2. Jar Jar disappoints me a whole lot less than Anakin's attempt to court Padme in 2 and I simply can't stand 3.

 Really? Is the first time I hear that someone prefers episode 1 over the other two, also I can't find any reasons why you can't stand episode 3 at all being the most consistent one of the PT with the OT. Also for me Jar Jar is far more annoying that Anakin in any movie so...

stretch009 said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I'd watch them in the order, and form, that they were released... as close as possible.

 I don't know how anyone can put up with that much Jar Jar.  TPM's gotta be a fanedited version for me.

 TPM is overall lame so I'm thinking a fan edit is the way to go, the question is which one writes out all the dullness of the film without altering too much the original script.

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#732100
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What's the best order to use when watching the Star Wars saga?
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Scruffy said:

dclarkg said:

Also there is the possibility to skip the episode I completely since plot-wise you won't be losing to much

Plot-wise, you could skip all the prequels, and you wouldn't lose too much. Use that six hours to watch something you haven't seen before, read a book, etc.

Well I do understand that I could skip the entire PT but of the 3 movies ATOC and ROTS do have valuable things to add to the story (despite their flaws at some points) which is not the case on TPM. Plot-wise there is nothing that happens on the TPM that is not later clarified or inferred in ATOC, maybe there are one or two minor things left out but I can't remember any right now. ATOC is watchable in it's original version and it contributes to the story far more than TPM. I agree that the OT is a saga by itself and that you could dispose the entire PT any day of the week while in the other hand the PT by itself is tasteless. My dilemma here is watch or not to watch TPM or at least watch a good fan edit on a 6 movie marathon.

pablumatic said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I'd watch them in the order, and form, that they were released... as close as possible.

 I suggest going with Puggo's suggestion.

The prequels assume you've already seen the original films as they spoil all the major surprises in them.

 That's true indeed but I think that the order IV,V,I,II,III,IV eliminates a lot of spoilers because of the order of how the plot evolves, for example you hear from Darth Vader itself that he is Luke's father instead of realizing that on ROTS. Inserting the PT as a flashback not only ties in the characters histories but also sets the background of what is told on episodes IV and V. Also you end episode V on a cliffhanger, watch episode I and II (or just episode II) and close with the last movies of both trilogies which are the strongest and everything settles.

RicOlie_2 said:

Well, for starters, he colour-corrected the whole thing to remove the awful blue tint present in the SE, but he also did cool things like adding blinks and other facial movement to the cantina creatures (and it doesn't look fake at all), removed some of the sillier moments of the SE while preserving some of the better aspects, added background dogfights and several other improvements to the Yavin battle, updated some displays to look more futuristic and jive better with the PT, etc. Very little he did looks fake or doesn't match the rest of the movie visually, aside from a new Death Star intro he did, which is still cool even if it could be better.

The only downside is that he sourced his edit from the DVD version, so it isn't in HD, though I don't know how much that matters to you. He has plans to redo the edit in HD in the future, however.

 I wouldn't mind a non-HD edit as long as it is good, I was planning to watch the Harmy's edits since those are the only ones I know so far. Of course I'm open for suggestions so if you have any recommendations feel free to share them :)

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#732070
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What's the best order to use when watching the Star Wars saga?
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RicOlie_2 said:

I would recommend watching the OT first, then the PT. I don't know if you've seen Adywan's Revisited edit of Episode IV, but if not, then I recommend that over the Special Edition. Unfortunately, he hasn't yet finished Episode V or VI, but they're coming...eventually.

I've never seen any edit of any kind, only official DVD/BR releases so far so I'm open to recommendations . What is the difference between the official release and the Adywan's Revisited edit?

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I'd watch them in the order, and form, that they were released... as close as possible.

Have you tried any other order? Any particular reason on why following that specific order? Just trying to gather input :P

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#732062
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What's the best order to use when watching the Star Wars saga?
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I'm planning a new SW marathon (all 6 episodes) and I wanted to hear your opinions on the preferred order to do so. So far I like the so-called machete order (IV,V,I,II,III,VI). I've seen other order suggestions but the don't seem appealing including the regular 1 to 6 order. Also I feel that most of the people here hate (or at least dislike) the prequels but that aside I would like to know your input. Also there is the possibility to skip the episode I completely since plot-wise you won't be losing to much, I have the Phantom Edit/Attack of the phantom Cuts as well so should I skip episode I, watch the edit or watch the full original movie? I won't be skipping episode II but I should go for the full version or the edit version? I've never seen the edits of episodes I and II so I don't know if they are good enough or if I should stick with the originals.