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Post: #300545
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/300545/action/topic#300545
Time: 4-Nov-2007 5:03 PM

Update : I have reincorporated deleted scene #4 so that all of Padme's scenes dealing with preserving democracy despite the Chancellor are now a part of the movie and make her character stronger while making the rift between she and Anakin hopefully more believable.

I am currently editing the scene where the Jedi confront Palpatine and Anakin decides to become Sidious' apprentice.

Thanks to Erikstormtrooper and TheTome for their critiques of the movie's opening crawl, the substance of which has been a continual source of story complication. Special thanks to Erikstormtrooper for taking the time to lend his writing expertise to the rewriting of the crawl!

Post: #300072
Topic: Prequel Trilogy - Sagafied (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/300072/action/topic#300072
Time: 28-Oct-2007 2:50 AM

I hope Tome doesn't mind, but I re-upped it HERE. Enjoy!

Post: #300069
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/300069/action/topic#300069
Time: 28-Oct-2007 12:49 AM

Just wanted to post an update. I'm working in earnest on a rough-cut of the entire movie from my anamorphic and 5.1 surround sources. I've reincorporated deleted scenes #2 and #5 and have edited through the end of Padme's veranda scene where Anakin shares with her his thoughts about the state of the Jedi and the Republic.

I don't want to share any video prematurely, but I will continue to post updates until the rough-cut is complete. I'm not really sweating the polishing details right now, but I am focusing on the story flow and the strength of the character performances. Ironically enough, it seems we here on OT.com and fanedit.org are engaging in what Lucas likes the most in his filmmaking process: rewriting the film in post-production!

Post: #300020
Topic: Lego Star Wars: Revenge of the Brick Mini-Movie
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/300020/action/topic#300020
Time: 26-Oct-2007 10:08 PM

Cool. Thanks for the info! I think Moth3r is giving us a kind nudge that this thread is a duplicate of the one created earlier at the link provided.

Post: #299975
Topic: Lego Star Wars: Revenge of the Brick Mini-Movie
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299975/action/topic#299975
Time: 26-Oct-2007 3:48 AM

Sounds cool. Will you be providing more details once you've received it?

Post: #299974
Topic: Prequel Trilogy - Sagafied (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299974/action/topic#299974
Time: 26-Oct-2007 3:46 AM

Definitely! I'd love to know how long it took you to figure out that sequence of shots! Good to hear that you are still working on it and Episode I. So, a new form, huh? I'll be checking out that updated post and eagerly anticipating the release. Cheers!

Post: #299888
Topic: Prequel Trilogy - Sagafied (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299888/action/topic#299888
Time: 24-Oct-2007 8:41 PM

Hey, Tome. I wanted to let you know that I am in awe of the opening space battle you cut for Episode III!

I've been referencing it (stealing) as I've begun the anamorphic, 5.1 surround sound editing of my fan edit! I'm hoping I can do as a good of a job as you have without mine being a complete rip off!

Post: #299562
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299562/action/topic#299562
Time: 21-Oct-2007 8:27 PM

Awesome, Ady! Thanks for the link. I just need to say that the stuff you're doing over in your thread is mind-blowing.

Here's a rough-cut of the opening titles for my edit which incorporates the 1970's 20th Century logo animation and a recreated text-only "Lucasfilm Limited" title.

Post: #299550
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299550/action/topic#299550
Time: 21-Oct-2007 5:13 PM

GM: I know so many others have found your compilation to be an awesome collection of Episode III music, and I'd like to add my thanks for bringing that to the forums! It's going to be a great resource for patching up the score for my edit.

Do you have a link to the mash-ups you are speaking of? I did a search on starwars.com for "mashups" and "mash-ups" and saw some funny stuff bu nothing much useful for editing. Sounds like that material would be great stuff to have.

Mabrothrax: yeah, the text color is just for my editing purposes as I try to match the text sizes and crawl speed. I plan on changing it to match the other Star Wars movies once the title works correctly.

Erikstormtrooper: thanks for the feedback!

Post: #299299
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299299/action/topic#299299
Time: 18-Oct-2007 3:48 AM

Hey, Adywan! Your clip was awesome! Keep the faith.

Post: #299298
Topic: Frames skipping/adding with Premiere!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299298/action/topic#299298
Time: 18-Oct-2007 3:38 AM

Well, ADM gives you the process to convert an M2V to an uncompressed AVI though the guide assumes you will be editing your final cut in Womble.

I decided to edit my entire movie in Premiere, so I used the process of creating the uncompressed AVI from the M2V as ADM explained it in "Step 3"; the only thing I didn't do as instructed when editing the AVS file was the cropping command since my source (the movie) was already in 16x9 aspect ratio. You still need to edit the LanczosResize line, though.

Read through the guide thoroughly with your thinking cap on, and hopefully you'll get though the process successfully and more quickly than I did when I impatiently ran through it. Hope this helps.

Post: #299230
Topic: Transformers The Movie: Resparked (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299230/action/topic#299230
Time: 17-Oct-2007 5:43 PM

I couldn't help but think "fan edit" when I saw the movie, too. Sounds like a cool project. I agree BIG TIME with your attempt to tone done Frenzy's voice. Good call on the Bumblebee whizzing scene, too.

Post: #299180
Topic: After Effects Help Needed: Lens Warp Issue for SW Title Crawl
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299180/action/topic#299180
Time: 17-Oct-2007 2:24 AM

So, I'm that much closer to an authentic-looking crawl. The text is tracking very closely to the real Episode III crawl, and I'm on the trail of a lens warp on text. Things are good.

Post: #299179
Topic: Frames skipping/adding with Premiere!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299179/action/topic#299179
Time: 17-Oct-2007 2:20 AM

I had a similar skipping and speed issue in Premiere; Premiere apparently doesn't read the ripped m2v file well regardless of whether you are using a 30i or 24p project.

Read through ADigitalMan's MPEG Editing Guide, and transcode your m2v file to an uncompressed AVI if you can spare the drive space.

This is how I'm editing my DVD rip in Premiere. Otherwise, you can edit the m2v directly in Womble MPEG Video Wizard after you error-correct the file.

Post: #299178
Topic: Color Grading/Correcting
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299178/action/topic#299178
Time: 17-Oct-2007 2:14 AM

I'm not sure about Vegas as I haven't used it myself, but both After Effects and Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 have color-correcting effects. I haven't messed around with After Effects' color-correction, but Premiere's is quite extensive.

Best of luck! Sounds like a cool project. I like the look of your Photoshop representation.

Post: #299177
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299177/action/topic#299177
Time: 17-Oct-2007 2:07 AM

Alright... finally a peek at the painstaking title crawl. I'm feeling pretty good about this.

Post: #298782
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/298782/action/topic#298782
Time: 10-Oct-2007 6:15 AM

Sluggo: thanks for the forum knowledge on the Maul-cyborg issue. Man, those guys over in the Ranch thread! Gotta respect the creativity going on over there.

I'm glad you like the possibility of cutting out most of the choral music. It really was overdone by Epsiode 3. I might want to replace the opera scene music, though. But I think all the music talk in the thread here just means that I'm going to need to do 2 mixes!! We'll see how I feel after I complete my edit with the official Episode 3 music intact first.

Post: #298781
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/298781/action/topic#298781
Time: 10-Oct-2007 6:07 AM

Originally posted by: Mabrothrax
The Darth Maul connection, I've seen it mentioned on this forum and others (can't remember exactly where though) the idea beign that Grevious is the cybernetic recreation of Darth Maul, mostly as the eyes are similar and perhaps the lightsaber usage.
Funny! After I posted to you about this, I found a piece of concept art of Maul as half cyborg (the legs) in a Star Wars comic book over the weekend at the book store!

I have seen Fall of the Republic and yes I am attempting something similar, TPM is down to an hour at present and it works well. II & III are problems for me - in AOTC Anakin is almost gone and the same goes for Obi-Wan in ROTS. If I can work the story to a satisfactory level I'll start a thread.
Anakin is almost GONE in AOTC? You're removing him mostly from the whole movie? If so, very intriguing. What's your plan for him as a character through your edit if I may be so bold to ask?
Anyway, the crawl looks good so far but I've not attempted anything similar so can't really add any technical help!

No problem. Suffering in After Effects; seems to be my lot in life.
Regarding your story & Obi-Wan, perhaps he merely goes after 'the separatist leader(s)', surely the phrase is spoken enouhg (in AOTC as well) for a few re-dubs?

I like the way you're thinking! Can you point out any particular lines from either movie to help me narrow it down should I need the re-dub? Thanks big!

Post: #298589
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/298589/action/topic#298589
Time: 6-Oct-2007 7:59 PM

Originally posted by: Owen-Lars-Kenobi

I was just listening to GM's Episode III soundtrack, and I noticed a small portion of (what I think to be) unused music, music that I really like... It's just the small action-ish bit at the beginning of Enter Lord Vader (track 07 on disc 2)... and... it would be neat to re-incorporate it in your edit, not sure where it would fit though.

Thanks for the suggestion, OLK! I've made a note to listen to that. I've now listened to GM's collected score, and it's awesome! Seems like it'll be a great resource in rebuilding the movie's soundtrack in my edit.

Your comments on my blasphemous ideas on replacing Williams' music with that of others motivated me to go back to the Original Trilogy to listen to more obscure tracks for possible use in my edit.

I never gave Williams' Star Wars music a deep listen before, I guess, but he's got some great stuff.

However (prepare for more blasphemy), I figured out what I most dislike about the Prequel music: the choral vocals.

The cheezy execution of the films just didn't seem to justify such an opulent sound especially as often as it came to be used, when I think it was never used in the GOUT until Jedi, and then, only for the Emperor as far as I remember.

Just an update on the title crawl:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1232/titlecrawllenswarpvc2.png

I'm trying to get some tips in the technical discussion forum for things like the apparent lens warp/bulge which bows the text outward in the rough perspective-corrected text I did as you can see above, especially at the bottom of it.

Hopefully, someone can give me some info to save me a little trial-and-error and get me moving on to more of the editing.

Post: #298588
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/298588/action/topic#298588
Time: 6-Oct-2007 7:19 PM

Originally posted by: Mabrothrax

I'm really interested to know how you've made this work, in particular - Obi-Wan, where does he go?
Well, we haven't made it work yet. It seems possible we can cut references to Grievous and still have Obi-wan leave on some undescribed campaign.

I like the possibility of what this might do to the overall story, focusing it more on Anakin's frustrations and relationship with Padme.

I would probably need to keep some of the battle on Utapau but would only follow through with Obi-wan to show where has gone and how he reconnects with Anakin later.

I ask mainly because I'm working on my own mamoth edit of the PT and I'm seriously considering either doing away with Grevious or completley re dubbing him (new script as well) possibly adding in the suggested Maul connection.

Are you making one movie out of the three?

If so, there's a good edit you should check out if you haven't yet for how they can all be cut together, STAR WARS - Fall Of The Republic by Blankfist. Has some major aesthetic problems in the Episode I portion, but the concepts are cool.

BTW, there was a suggested Maul connection? Do tell...

Post: #298586
Topic: After Effects Help Needed: Lens Warp Issue for SW Title Crawl
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/298586/action/topic#298586
Time: 6-Oct-2007 6:46 PM

I'm trucking pretty steadily with my title crawl in After Effects 7.0, but I was hoping someone might have some tips to give for emulating the crawl as authentically as possible.

Upon setting my position key frames for the title crawl scroll with a camera layer, I'm still experiencing issues with getting my crawl to track exactly with the lines of the original Episode III version as shown in the image that follows.

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4189/titlecrawlnottrackinghr1.png

By imageshack at 2007-10-06

Affecting this issue looks to be a lens warp or bulge on the original as shown in this screen grab and rough perspective correction I did of the original.
There definitely seems to be a curve to the text's path, especially noticeable at the bottom.

By imageshack at 2007-10-06

Any tips which might speed me along to a proper, authentic-looking crawl without as much trial-and-error as I've had to do so far? Thanks for any help anyone can offer.

Post: #298402
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/298402/action/topic#298402
Time: 4-Oct-2007 3:45 AM

Well, my crawl almost fits the genuine Episode 3 crawl. It loses "traction", so to speak, as it gets closer to the vantage point. You can make out the yellow color of the original crawl's text peaking out at the top above my red text.

I'm hoping that the adjustment is as simple as elbow-greasing the angle into the correct place, but it could get pretty ugly to work with if I end up needing to resize and justify all of my text elements (episode #, title and text body).

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3928/crawlbodyreplica02ph2.png

Stay tuned.

Post: #298357
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/298357/action/topic#298357
Time: 3-Oct-2007 3:46 PM

Thanks, Sluggo! I'm hoping to do some unexpected stuff, so I hope it turns out cool.

Post: #298336
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/298336/action/topic#298336
Time: 3-Oct-2007 5:03 AM

Okay, so I'm cautiously optimistic that I'm on a decent track to creating a good SW-style crawl.

It's still kinda hocus-pocus to me with the camera layer in After Effects, but I think I may have elbow-greased the scroll into the proper position.

Here are screen shots of the After Effects work, but don't freak out!

I'm only using the red text to justify and modify my text to fit that of the real Episode 3 crawl.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8899/episodenumberreplica01nq5.png

Pretty decent match on the episode #! This might work yet.

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8480/episodetitleoverlay01qu3.png

Pretty nice emulation of the text style.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2534/crawlbodyreplica01st8.png

Had to pack it in for the night, but this is off to a good start I hope. The real test is when the text moves, though!

More to come as it develops.

Post: #297668
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/297668/action/topic#297668
Time: 23-Sep-2007 10:43 PM

Well, I've been banging my head against my desk stressing over the details of a decent approximation of an authentic SW crawl, and I've discovered that maybe I should have read the directions first. Oh, well.

Here's a peek at the opening of the crawl. Sorry that there's no video yet. Oh, and OLK, thanks for your suggested title crawl! Borrowing part of it helped me make the final version!

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3899/dummiedupcrawl092307pw0.jpg

Edit: Worked A LOT more on the crawl last night, and WHEW! The devil is in the details. I feel hopeful that I'll get an almost identical-looking crawl, but the finessing of the whole thing is painstaking.