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#1319135
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Original Trilogy "Faces" LD Preservation & Upscale project
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I have the Osprey 827e cap card which allows for simultaneously video and [digital] audio captures. Ya I only cap things that aren’t on dvd/BD like Star Wars, The Keep, THX-1138. Or like you I’ll cap for color reference and use the BD as my edit video source.

My next project will be cleaning up the Grindhouse BD of ESB (color correction, noise removal, stabilization). I’ll use the digital audio track from the 1987 Japanese Special Collection LD.

For the TOOT method, do you just overlay the video tracks and adjust the opacity? What is the advantage?

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#1318573
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Original Trilogy "Faces" LD Preservation & Upscale project
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@ riftamos: it looks like your aspect ratio is too wide on these two screen caps.

@ willirob: what do you use for your comb filter? I’ve been using the EVAL adv 7842 board along with a HLD-X0. But have been reading about the Domesday Duplicator. Since it taps into the RF signal, it can make any low or average player give great results. I thought I had the best set-up by using the best player and best comb filter. I think it’s more geared toward PAL stuff at the moment.

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#1318445
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Denoise, Regrain And CC of ESB Grindhouse
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I have to say reading this post has made me want to tackle this project too. My Grindhouse source is only 25gb so hats off to you for having access to the ProRes file! I have Vegas Pro 16 as my NLE. I’ve got most of the laserdiscs for reference, and I’ll probably use the 1987 Japan Special Collection for the digital audio track to sync. If I remember right the print(s) have some audio issues.

I also have neat Video for noise reduction. Man does that make a difference. Pro 16 has a stabilize feature, so the scenes on the ship deck can be easily fixed.

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#1318438
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Original Trilogy "Faces" LD Preservation & Upscale project
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I think Williarob was able to explain it better than I could. It is best to capture at the original source of the media: 480i @ 29.97fps. I don’t think real-time capture software can IVTC as good as AVISynth in post.

For video-sourced material maybe capturing at 60fps is good, but if I had to guess I’d say for film-sourced material capturing at 480i 29.97 is best. The 24fps movie is slowed down to 23.97 during the telecine process. Thankfully there are programs out there that can detect 3:2 pull-down pattern and get rid of the extra fields.

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#1140072
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how is 2006 GOUT upscaling done?
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Williarob said:

Also check out this thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-GOUT-in-HD-using-super-resolution-algorithm/id/17552

which contains some scripts (very slow ones!) that do a nice job with Video Enhancer’s AviSynth plugin. They also sell a stand alone app that works pretty well (and you get the plugin free when you buy it). http://www.infognition.com/videoenhancer/

Personally, I use Red Giant Shooter Suite’s “Instant 4K” for most of my upscaling in After Effects. It’s real easy - just resize he composition to the size you want, drop the effect on and boom. Instant 720p/1080p/UHD. Just remember to set the quality to “Best” before rendering. https://www.redgiant.com/products/instant-4k/

Awesome CatBus. And thank you Williarob. Both Infogniton and Red Giant sound totally awesome and what I’m looking for. I edit with Sony Vegas. Seems all the good third-party stuff is geared towards Adobe…

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#1139811
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how is 2006 GOUT upscaling done?
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CatBus said:

Possessed said:

clashradio said:

JawsTDS said:

I did my scaling in VirtualDub paired with AviSynth, personally. But I’m sure there are other ways to do it.

I keep reading about Harmy’s version that used the 06 GOUT upscaled and was wondering what method? I’d like to upsale to the quality of Harmy and then re-sync the audio with one of my laserdiscs which has the 77 stereo track, then output to BD.

Silly question but why don’t you just use harmys? It should already be synced to whatever track you want to use. Hell it probably already has the track as an option.

Not only that, but Harmy’s versions are increasingly GOUT-free. ROTJ only has part of one scene from GOUT. If you want pure GOUT source, you probably want to look at Team Blu’s upscales – which you should be aware do not look as good as Harmy’s, given the source material.

Also, the 77 stereo Laserdisc track already on Harmy’s latest preservation is definitely better than what you’re trying to use. It’s from the only release of the 1977 stereo track in digital audio on Laserdisc (a Japanese pan & scan release, but the audio was great). It was then synced up to the GOUT and patched over wherever there were dropouts and warbles with the next-best analogue Laserdisc audio by some of our local audio luminaries with access to and experience with ridiculously expensive software. I don’t want to discourage the effort, if you’re just trying to learn how to do things and all, but it’s already been done, and really well.

Well the thing is; I know all this has been done before (X0 project, Harmy’s De-Specialized, Team Blu GOUT upscale). And I’m not trying to re-invent the wheel. I also don’t want you guys to think I’m being foolish but…My biggest hobby is video editing; can’t get enough of it. I have all of the best LD martial (even the Japan LD P&S w/77 stereo). I have a HLD-X0, CLD-99 & CLD-D703. Soon to have a Lumagen 2144. I’m still not sure what capture device to get yet (haven’t figured out if my Black Magic Intensity Shuttle usb 3.0 will do 1080p 23.976fps captures yet).

So two seperate yet related goals are to make a BD from a composite of the best LD’s (86 JSC/92 SWE/possibly 93/95 THX). And a BD upscale using the 2006 GOUT dvd synced to the P&S Japan LD.

Again I know it’s all been done and maybe I can’t match the quality. Editing and Star Wars…an hobbyist’s dream come true.

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#1138076
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how is 2006 GOUT upscaling done?
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JawsTDS said:

I did my scaling in VirtualDub paired with AviSynth, personally. But I’m sure there are other ways to do it.

I keep reading about Harmy’s version that used the 06 GOUT upscaled and was wondering what method? I’d like to upsale to the quality of Harmy and then re-sync the audio with one of my laserdiscs which has the 77 stereo track, then output to BD.

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#705453
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color correcting using new Frames book/Sony Vegas
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I'm attempting to de-specialize ANH using mainly the BD as the video source. I know color correcting has been addressed here, but I was wondering if it would be a good idea to use the new book called "Frames" as a reference guide? (scan the pictures and use a color matching plug-in). The stills are from the Special Editions of the Original 3, but they don't seem to have the crushed Blacks etc. or maybe I'm just color blind?

Also, has anyone used Sony Vegas to CC? I was wondring if I could cheat and use your color settings?

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#670425
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation
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     I only ask about 48K because I made a new discovery. For years I've video recorded live bands with miniDV camcorders, and a separate soundboard audio source using a digital field recorder. I had the field recorder set to 16B 44K. I would then import the video to my computer via Firewire, and with it being digital video (or maybe all video being imported) Vegas sets the quantization & sample freq at 16B 48K. Once I started the editing of the multi-camera show, (all of the camera angles and the soundboard audio synced up), I noticed the board audio drifted a bit from the camera audio. Then I recorded a show at 16B 48K, and the board audio didn't drift at all from the video audio.

      I'm currently working on a Despecialized ANH, using the BD for the video and the '92 laserdisc for the audio. I imported the LD at 16B 48K, and so far it's synced up pretty good to the BD. I can't help but wonder if it would not have had I selected 44k? When I check the Properties in Vegas, it shows the 6.1 DTS audio from the BD is at 48K. And that's why I'm wondering if you're working with audio for video, if it needs to be sampled at 48K.

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#667818
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color correction R2D2 twilight scene ANH
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I'm removing the Tractor Beam line because it wasn't in the '77 stereo mix. I know it was in the mono, and maybe the 70mm? Of the three audio mixes, only the stereo has been released so I decided to make my Despecialized version using that source. I do have multiple versions on laserdisc, and to me, the 1989 Widescreen ('85 mix) sounds the best, but they added the Tractor Beam line. If you listen with headphones at that part, you can really here the difference in 3PO's tone. I did toss and turn on using the '86 Japanese LD, which is the original stereo '77 mix, and digital audio...

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#665949
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color correction R2D2 twilight scene ANH
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Thank you for the old link. I did do a search before I posted this question.

Ok, so it's obvious the (USA) pre '93 LD's have the canyon scene too bright. So you're saying I can color correct the BD to match the '06 dvd, because that will be closer in exposure than the '89 LD that I'm using for the soundtrack? Or just use the '06 dvd for that scene and be done with it.

Thank you, much appreciated!