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#1201368
Topic
Religion
Time

ZigZig said:

Sorry Chyron, your faith is strong but your words are disrespectful and immature.

I’m disrespectful and immature?
Talking about Flying Spaghetti Monsters, et al., is not disrespectful and immature?

JEDIT: Also, please don’t make me define the word “evidence.” People use evidence in a court case to prove their argument, and that evidence is not portrayed as fact.

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#1201367
Topic
Religion
Time

ZigZig said:

chyron8472 said:

ZigZig said:

ZigZig said:

Trident said:

ZigZig said:

chyron8472 said:

To some degree, I can not answer some of those follow-up questions in a meaningful way, because
(…)
2) certain answers that readily come to me assume certain truths that people call into question. And I can not convince people of those truths.
(…)

True. Though, some people do present themselves as though their opinion is the correct one.
…and that probably also includes me.

When you use words like “truths” to describe your beliefs, is it difficult not to think that you present your opinion as the correct one.

It’d be a pretty odd belief if that wasn’t the case tho. I mean believing things are true is sort of why we believe in them 😉

Saying “I believe it is true” is not the same as “I know it is true, I’m 100% sure of that, it is a fact and there are evidences”.

I think you are confusing “fact” with “truth.” When I believe something is true, it is a truth in which I believe. Yes, there are truths that I believe strongly enough in as to treat them as fact. But I can not prove them to be fact in the way that facts are proven.

Ok, so I am the one who is confusing fact and truth…

If you are asserting that I expect others to accept those truths as fact (as in, scientifically reproducible), then yes.

That is also different than for me to say that I treat certain truths as fact for my own self.

Post
#1201363
Topic
Religion
Time

ZigZig said:

ZigZig said:

Trident said:

ZigZig said:

chyron8472 said:

To some degree, I can not answer some of those follow-up questions in a meaningful way, because
(…)
2) certain answers that readily come to me assume certain truths that people call into question. And I can not convince people of those truths.
(…)

True. Though, some people do present themselves as though their opinion is the correct one.
…and that probably also includes me.

When you use words like “truths” to describe your beliefs, is it difficult not to think that you present your opinion as the correct one.

It’d be a pretty odd belief if that wasn’t the case tho. I mean believing things are true is sort of why we believe in them 😉

Saying “I believe it is true” is not the same as “I know it is true, I’m 100% sure of that, it is a fact and there are evidences”.

I think you are confusing “fact” with “truth.” When I believe something is true, it is a truth in which I believe. Yes, there are truths that I believe strongly enough in as to treat them as fact. But I can not prove them to be fact in the scientific way that facts, by definition, are proven.

Post
#1201361
Topic
All Things Star Trek
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

I think Kirzon loved the woman and Jadzia, still being a Dax, had feelings for her.

Torias Dax (male host) used to be married to Nilani Kahn (female host).

Now the Dax and Kahn symbionts both have female hosts, but they remember the heterosexual relationship. The other Trill characters in the show think Jadzia Dax and Lenara Kahn having a relationship is taboo, but it has nothing to do with the current hosts both being female.

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#1201356
Topic
Religion
Time

ZigZig said:

Trident said:

ZigZig said:

chyron8472 said:

To some degree, I can not answer some of those follow-up questions in a meaningful way, because
(…)
2) certain answers that readily come to me assume certain truths that people call into question. And I can not convince people of those truths.
(…)

True. Though, some people do present themselves as though their opinion is the correct one.
…and that probably also includes me.

When you use words like “truths” to describe your beliefs, is it difficult not to think that you present your opinion as the correct one.

It’d be a pretty odd belief if that wasn’t the case tho. I mean believing things are true is sort of why we believe in them 😉

Saying “I believe it is true” is not the same as “I know it is true, I’m 100% sure of that, it is a fact and there are evidences”.

But there are evidences. They just aren’t reproducible in a controlled environment. The fact that you dispute the credibility of those evidences doesn’t make them not evidences.

Post
#1200922
Topic
Religion
Time

CatBus said:

At least in your case, your certainty leads to interesting follow-on questions, though 😉

To some degree, I can not answer some of those follow-up questions in a meaningful way, because 1) I have not crafted what sort of response I might give, especially to suit this sort of audience, and 2) certain answers that readily come to me assume certain truths that people call into question. And I can not convince people of those truths. I can only convey them and let the seed sprout or not.

That said, we should all be careful not to interpret other people’s descriptions of their own faith, or lack thereof, as an attempt to convert others to their point of view.

True. Though, some people do present themselves as though their opinion is the correct one.
…and that probably also includes me.

Post
#1200917
Topic
Religion
Time

Seriously though, for me, for one to say that I ought to be skeptical and realistically more than zero percent uncertain of the existence of God and whether He cares, it is akin to saying I should treat my relationship with my wife as though we barely even met. My relationship has long since evolved past that point, and I’m longing to learn more and grow, and I want to be closer.

I love my Father, and He loves me. I am special to Him. But so are you. I can not question His existence because that question has already long since been answered. I have other, deeper questions that have also since been answered, and yet more questions that yet have not been.

I know it’s probably infuriating to have a debate with me about His existence, but it made me shrug when I thought about why I, for myself, would need to question it at this point. There are other more meaningful things I want to explore.

Post
#1200797
Topic
The Place to Go for Emotional Support
Time

Trident said:

You need to stop thinking so much and just be.

The thing you need to remember is she likes you for you. Stop trying to complicate the simple by over-guessing. Just relax into who you are and shrug off the rest.

This. So very much this.

DominicCobb said:

Also, if it means that much, tell her exactly how you feel. Awkward but important.

And this.

Post
#1200388
Topic
The misquote random thought out of context thread.
Time

DuracellEnergizer said:

chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

We already have unofficial releases of it

All of which could be mass produced on DVD/BD, marketed, and distributed to thousands/millions more people if the films were in the public domain.

Which version would be in the public domain? If anyone was free to distribute the movies, anyone would be free to edit them. And if anyone was able to edit them, which version would be definitive? How would the millions know the difference between the Despecialized Edition, the Silver Screen Edition, the Revisited Edition, the Special Edition, et al.?

I have enough of a hard time finding good audiobooks of classics on Audible. I have to sift through many crappy releases of an audiobook to find one that is acceptable. How does making Star Wars public domain help people find the originals instead of muddy the retail waters with ambiguously named edits and crappy preservations?

If you prefer perpetual copyright over some inconvenience, more power to you.

Filling the retail space with umpteen edits and preservations of Star Wars is not simply an inconvenience.

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#1200347
Topic
The misquote random thought out of context thread.
Time

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

We already have unofficial releases of it

All of which could be mass produced on DVD/BD, marketed, and distributed to thousands/millions more people if the films were in the public domain.

Which version would be in the public domain? If anyone was free to distribute the movies, anyone would be free to edit them. And if anyone was able to edit them, which version would be definitive? How would the millions know the difference between the Despecialized Edition, the Silver Screen Edition, the Revisited Edition, the Special Edition, et al.?

I have enough of a hard time finding good audiobooks of classics on Audible. I have to sift through many crappy releases of an audiobook to find one that is acceptable. How does making Star Wars public domain help people find the originals instead of muddy the retail waters with ambiguously named edits and crappy preservations?

Post
#1200307
Topic
The Controversial Discussions Thread (Was "The Prejudice Discussion Thread" (Was "The Human Sexuality Discussion Thread" (Was "The Homosexuality Discussion Thread")))
Time

dahmage said:

chyron8472 said:

I suppose I don’t know how the lab test is administered

yep

Yes, so I wonder why an “inconclusive” is less “the lab tech screwed up the sample” and more “it’s not technically a negative result”.

Post
#1200300
Topic
The misquote random thought out of context thread.
Time

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

LordZerome1080 said:

TV’s Frink said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Sam Iam
1 week ago
I wish we could go back to the good old days, where nobody gave a sh*t about stupid copyright laws.

What?

Its from YouTube and I felt it reflected the sentiments of our efforts here on OT.

But you didn’t even put it in a quote box so it’s not in the right thread then is it?

Why do you care?

Why do you care that I care?

Why do you care that I care that you care?

Post
#1200283
Topic
The Controversial Discussions Thread (Was "The Prejudice Discussion Thread" (Was "The Human Sexuality Discussion Thread" (Was "The Homosexuality Discussion Thread")))
Time

Dek Rollins said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’m going to be completely honest, I can’t complain that an “inconclusive” HIV test disqualifies someone from donating blood. Better safe than sorry. And by the way this is coming from someone who also is barred from donating blood so I know how you feel.

I give blood regularly. Apparently, redcross.org says I’ve donated 42 times.

What does that have to do with my post?

I’m not disqualified from giving blood, and I give blood often.

Try to keep up.

You didn’t answer his question.

Yes I did. My reply doesn’t have to relate to HIV.

The conversation was about not being able to donate

There are multiple facets to a conversation. One can respond in reference to a particular aspect.

It does make me wonder why someone would get an “inconclusive” HIV result. I suppose I don’t know how the lab test is administered so I don’t know what “conclusive” should look like.

And yes, they test for stuff anyway whether or not you lie.

Post
#1200281
Topic
The misquote random thought out of context thread.
Time

TV’s Frink said:

LordZerome1080 said:

TV’s Frink said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Sam Iam
1 week ago
I wish we could go back to the good old days, where nobody gave a sh*t about stupid copyright laws.

What?

Its from YouTube and I felt it reflected the sentiments of our efforts here on OT.

But you didn’t even put it in a quote box so it’s not in the right thread then is it?

Why do you care?

Post
#1200279
Topic
The Controversial Discussions Thread (Was "The Prejudice Discussion Thread" (Was "The Human Sexuality Discussion Thread" (Was "The Homosexuality Discussion Thread")))
Time

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’m going to be completely honest, I can’t complain that an “inconclusive” HIV test disqualifies someone from donating blood. Better safe than sorry. And by the way this is coming from someone who also is barred from donating blood so I know how you feel.

I give blood regularly. Apparently, redcross.org says I’ve donated 42 times.

What does that have to do with my post?

I’m not disqualified from giving blood, and I give blood often.

Try to keep up.

You didn’t answer his question.

Yes I did. My reply doesn’t have to relate to HIV.

Post
#1200275
Topic
The Controversial Discussions Thread (Was "The Prejudice Discussion Thread" (Was "The Human Sexuality Discussion Thread" (Was "The Homosexuality Discussion Thread")))
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I’m going to be completely honest, I can’t complain that an “inconclusive” HIV test disqualifies someone from donating blood. Better safe than sorry. And by the way this is coming from someone who also is barred from donating blood so I know how you feel.

I give blood regularly. Apparently, redcross.org says I’ve donated 42 times.

What does that have to do with my post?

I’m not disqualified from giving blood, and I give blood often.

Try to keep up.