chyron8472

pittrek said:

TV’s Frink said:

pittrek said:

I could never understand the hatred of Enterprise, and usually by the same people who say things like “Voyager is my favourite Trek show”. I truly liked the first three seasons, hated the last one, which interestingly enough seems to be the favourite season of most people.

Well this sounds pretty hate-worthy to me…

Tobar said:

The first couple seasons kind of creep me out, it always felt like the focus was what compromising situation can we put T’Pol in this week?

I honestly don’t really remember anything like that, there were a few cringe-worthy decontamination scenes, there was just one episode where T’Pol was horny and tried to get somebody to f her, but that’s all I can remember.

She’s done more than try.

I’m not sure though if you’re referring to the time she contracted a microbe that prematurely made her enter pon farr (the Vulcan mating period) [http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Bounty_(episode)], or when she had sex with Commander Tucker and said later it was simply an experiment in mating rituals [http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Harbinger_(episode)].

But then, the latter happened in Season 3, after she and Trip were already becoming more and more close over the course of the season. Also Vulcans are essentially allergic to Trellium, which is on the ship to protect it from spacial anomalies, so it is constantly messing with the portion of her brain that controls reason and gives her an ability to contain her emotions.

pittrek said:

Hm… I start to have a feeling that my strategy in trying to convince you to watch the show isn’t very successful.

My bet is if he hasn’t started watching it yet, he probably wasn’t going to anyway.

Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ha that sounds terrible.

It’s been in my Netflix queue so long I’m not even sure it’s still on Netflix.

You would hate it. It’s bad.

That’s the Mirror Universe in Season 4. -.- It’s not the Prime Universe crew. It’s supposed to be over the top with evil bad guys and everyone betraying everyone else. That’s the way the Mirror Universe is.

 
Captain Archer trading insults with the Tellarites always makes me laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEBbzgOSpn4&t=27s

Tobar said:

I don’t think Frink would be a fan of Enterprise. The first couple seasons kind of creep me out, it always felt like the focus was what compromising situation can we put T’Pol in this week?

To be fair, the Vulcans were (are?) super-bigoted about people showing emotions or making decisions remotely influenced by them. Her assignment to Enterprise allowed her to see just how wrong and narrow-minded the traditional Vulcan view of humans is. At the same time, she was a foil to Archer’s ability to get hot headed at times. Similar to Kirk and Spock, or Janeway and Tuvok. I liked it.

I don’t see why the crew regularly challenging T’Pol’s preconceptions about humans is a bad thing. She develops as a character over time and comes to respect the crew and their captain; and she even defends them later, at a time when the Vulcans were trying to convince Earth to mothball Starfleet because Enterprise got a whole colony of 3600 people killed.

chyron8472 said:

hose butt

moviefreakedmind said:

Give me the Q powers. I’d use 'em right.

You’d make Frink human, give Warbler real eyes and turn Jay into a grown man?

Let me be clear here: I have no personal disdain for Catholicism. I just don’t belong to it. To me, again, they are brothers and sisters in Christ. So nevermind the differences.

But I will say this… When I went to Eureka Springs, Arkansas with my wife and her family, and we visited The Thorncrown Chapel there, it was pretty. The building and surrounding nature was nice. But when I visited St. Elizabeth Catholic Church, it was amazing. I could… feel something in the church there. Something tangible. It was like the Spirit was there, in that place, despite it being empty. I didn’t want to leave. I genuinely felt in that moment like I could have sat in that pew all day and just been in His presence. My family wanted to do other things that afternoon, and it made me sad to leave. It made me think about Aslan in the Narnia novel Prince Caspian where he tells Lucy she should have gone to him even despite her siblings’ protestations of not seeing him anywhere.

It was only days later when I mentioned my experience that my family admitted feeling similarly. My wife says the next time we go back, we will go there and just be for a while.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Handman said:

I probably prefer TOS the least, for one because it is so very campy.

If you can’t appreciate camp, stay out of the campsite.

And most of the campiness of the show is in season three. But there’s still a lot there.

Spock’s Brain remains one of my favorite episodes of the entire franchise.

FTFM

FTFY

What?! No.

My favorite episode is Deja Q, where Q loses his powers.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

I like all of the Star Trek series (except Discovery).

Enterprise included?

Yes. Also, Enterprise was renamed Star Trek: Enterprise at the beginning of season 3. So to a degree, the question answers itself.

I just thought most people disliked it and maybe you forgot about it. I’ve never seen it.

My understanding, from this thread, is that most people hate on Enterprise because most people couldn’t watch it, because it aired on UPN which, in many places, wasn’t available.

TV’s Frink said:

Butt judges.

2.75/10.00

Whose butt are you judging there?

suspiciouscoffee said:

Handman said:

I probably prefer TOS the least, for one because it is so very campy.

If you can’t appreciate camp, stay out of the campsite.

And most of the campiness of the show is in season three. But there’s still a lot there.

Spock’s Brain remains one of my favorite episodes of the entire franchise.

FTFY.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

I like all of the Star Trek series (except Discovery).

Enterprise included?

Yes. Also, Enterprise was renamed Star Trek: Enterprise at the beginning of season 3. So to a degree, the question answers itself.

I love the characters in ENT. Especially Malcolm and Trip.

JEDIT: I should say I like Enterprise, but I HATE its finale. I’d just as soon the finale episode doesn’t exist. Watching the fanedit that removes TNG elements is not enough to fix its problems.

I like all of the Star Trek series (except Discovery). I probably prefer TOS the least, for one because it is so very campy.

RicOlie_2 said:

I simply love a good debate and mainly out of curiosity am trying to understand why you don’t find the Catholic position convincing.

Because I value believer’s baptism by immersion; I don’t care much for liturgical recitation (because at some point the words become rote rather than genuine); I believe in the priesthood of the believer (1 Peter 2:9); and I’m happy with the autonomy accorded to my local church.

Among other things.

I also really see no value in having a Pope. I can talk to God as easily as he can. He is a teacher, and as a teacher he is held to a higher standard (James 3), but my local church doesn’t need to answer to a denominational administrative body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMXvvNjYN50

 
JEDIT: Apparently, Baptists’ practice of believer’s baptism and Communion/The Lord’s Supper, are referred to as “ordinances” instead of “sacraments”. That is, we do so in obedience to Christ’s command and in following His example. I have personally been taught that baptism is an outward sign of an inward change. If Catholics hold to sacrements as “an outward sign of an inward grace” (according to the wiki entry on Sacrements), I’m not sure how that is different. I would have to ask someone more knowledgeable about it.

Ric, I might be interested in discussing what doctrine I hold to vs. what you, or Warb, or _ender or whoemever else holds to. But I am not interested in having to continually defend why Protestant belief is not inferior to Catholicism. Whether whichever position is more sound might be up for debate, but that still doesn’t invite disdain or condescension.

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RicOlie_2 said:

Not to mention that most Protestant denominations just don’t have that much to offer in comparison to the Catholic Church. They don’t have the Eucharist (or most of the other sacraments), the tradition, the depth of theology, the saints, or any number of the things that set the Church apart and make it so incredibly rich.

I’m not sure which denominations (if any) don’t have Communion, but mine certainly does. Whether it is bread and wine or unleavened cracker and grape juice, or if it uses intinction (dipping the bread into the wine) or not, or having individual breads/crackers and cups, is irrelevant. It’s the symbol that is important.

And no, I don’t turn to or reference the saints in prayer. I pray to my Father, my Savior, and the Spirit. Jesus intercedes for me, and the Spirit empowers me. I don’t need additional intercessors. And, for another thing, God is omniscient; the saints are not, so I’m not sure how that works given the number of people here who simultaneously pray constantly.

Different denominations have incompatible beliefs regarding salvation. The fact is that we can’t all be right

No, we can’t.

if we boil down the Christian faith to what we all have in common, we’re not left with a whole lot of substance.

What we’re left with is: We are imperfect, and sinful, and God is absolutely pure and holy. But God loves you. He loves you so much that He sacrificed His own child—His own self, on a Roman cross, as the penalty to redeem you from your our own sin and selfishness. We don’t deserve it, but it is given to us freely and all we need to do is accept His sacrifice and His forgiveness. Then the Spirit gives us power; and the Scripture, given power, is made clear as the Spirit reveals it to us. By that power, we are called to become more like Him, and to share the good news of His sacrifice to the world.

And that is really what is important.

RicOlie_2 said:

I’m in love with the Catholic faith and I think it’s important, which is why I want to share, though it might come across as aggressive.

I don’t really understand the “love for the Catholic faith” as opposed to just “the Christian faith”. To my mind, the whole point is to love God and love your neighbor, since the whole law and prophets hang on those two commandments (Matthew 22). Doctrinal disagreements, in my opinion, are fairly minor in the grand scheme. To me, the different denominations are essentially separate parts of the Body of Christ. None is less important even if one does not understand the use of another (1 Corinthians 12).

Frankly I don’t think God cares if you’re Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian, Church of Christ, Assembly of God or Seventh-Day Adventist. I happen to be Baptist, and there are certain doctrinal beliefs and activities (or lack thereof) that come along with that, but it doesn’t make my faith less meaningful or my life less useful to Him.

Also, I’m not really overly concerned with the “official” stance of the (Catholic) Church to a certain degree. If the “official” view was that God actually literally created everything, from the space-time continuum itself to human life on this planet, in 6 days—that is, only 144 hours—when to begin with a 24-hour day would have no meaning before our planet existed, then I don’t agree with that. I agree that He could if He wanted to, but I don’t believe that He did. I believe that, among God’s many other amazing qualities, He is also the Great Scientist, and I enjoy learning about what our science has revealed that speaks to the wonder of His handiwork.

God is still teaching me about Himself, and I’m learning more about myself and about His creation. He’s just at a different place with me than He is with someone else.

oojason said:

Good people who frequent this thread on all things politics…

Jay said:

…there’s no reason to limit all politics to a single thread any longer. Feel free to debate different issues in different threads and avoid those you don’t want to involve yourself with.

A quick look at the Index thread for the Culture section - featuring a few threads listed on various political subjects which some of you may wish to continue with - or start afresh on a new political topic.

 

But what if we want to limit all politics to a single thread?

moviefreakedmind said:

And fools can be pitied.

FTFY

dahmage said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

dahmage said:

Kinda like an industrial pizza oven.

Those should be illegal. Who the hell buys cooked pizza?

No, it just means there a lots of used pizza ovens on eBay that you can buy to cook your raw pizza on.

Easy-Bake Pizza Ovens?

suspiciouscoffee said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

This division brings to mind Crisis on Infinite Earths. Everything’s being hacked apart instead of mashed into one cluttered, incongruous whole, but it’s just as pointless and confusing.

George Perez isn’t a mod here.

Citation needed. 😉

I keep laughing at that.

Now, when Padme says “So this is how liberty dies…” it will be with thunderous applesauce.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

While I agree, I don’t think this is a democracy.

thunderous applesauce

Roflwaffle

…also, wrong thread.

dahmage said:

what is a telephone?

Mrebo said:

chyron, can you please edit the thread title?

Done.