Vaderisnothayden said:
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
LexX said:
Raiders is bland. I find it boring,
I wonder if this is a generational thing. In the past, movies had their ups and downs - it was called pacing. Nowadays if something isn't exploding or someone screaming every 5 seconds, it's considered slow.
Hardly a generational thing. I was around when Raiders came out. I was around when ANH came out. I have no problem with a movie that isn't all frantic energy. But Raiders is trying to be an energetic film and it fails. And Raiders' problem isn't a matter of slowness. Things happen pretty fast in Raiders. It's a matter of force and intensity, which isn't all about speed. Things in Raiders are just bland. Bland villains, bland portrayal of locations, bland situations. When I look back over Raiders, there just isn't that much that's INTERESTING. Whereas the other two films have plenty.
I never got that impression. To me, Last Crusade always felt bland. I love the interaction between the Joneses, but otherwise the plot and villains just seem flat. Raiders has not only the fast pace, but the camerawork to match it.
When I think Indy-I think of the bar scene in Raiders. Our archeologist is drowning his sorrows-and if you wanna talk to god you can go see him right now-Indy's got nothing better to do. "It would only take a push to make you like me-to take you out of the light." "Now you're getting nasty." Belloq is such a strong presence that is never matched in the other films. (Well, Mola Ram is a good villain but sadly underdeveloped as is much of Temple.)
Marion can kinda get annoying, but not as much as Willie. Sallah and Marcus are not the travesties they were in Crusade. This is not saying that I dislike Crusade or Temple. In fact I only dislike KOTCS (The horror.) I enjoy the trilogy, (what is this 4th film we speak of?) but find Raiders a phenominal film to this day-one that stands on its own in theme, tone, pace, and style much like the original Godfather film.
I don't know-I'm making this up as I go.