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#1371443
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Recreating the Australian John Alvin '95 VHS covers for DVD
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I was looking at my old posts and I noticed all my images are gone! That’s no good, I thought, I’ll reupload them to somewhere more permanent and edit the original posts so people can see them again.

One of those was my John Alvin BluRay covers. They are ‘generic’, in that they’re not for any specific version of the OOT, nor are they specific to any country. For whatever reason, I felt compelled to redo them, based exclusively on the last Australian VHS release of the Original Trilogy. I guess I wanted something that, if I ever burned the films to discs, I could put them in something that looks nice but also isn’t out of place with the rest of my movie collection.

Be warned, this is based on the AU VHS covers to a fault; the runtime is PAL based, copyright is 1995, the rating markers on all 3 sides and the legal text mentions CBSFox Video and ‘video cassettes’. Only thing intentionally missing is the catalog # on the spine; I drew the line at that for some reason.
Star Wars - John Alvin AU DVD
Empire Strikes Back - John Alvin AU DVD
Return Of The Jedi - John Alvin AU DVD

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#1370964
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4K77 Artwork
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JadedSkywalker said:

Are there covers with John Alvin’s art for Star Wars and Return of the Jedi.
The images that appeared on the Japanese Laserdisc.

They weren’t made specifically for the 4Kxx series, but I did make these a year or two ago.
If I can find the old .psd files I should be able to mod them if you so desire

calculon559 said:

Here’s some '95 International style BluRay covers. I’ve tried to make them as generic as possible, so they can be used for whatever version of the unaltered original trilogy you may have. Having said that, I believe these covers should fit the standard 12mm spine cases, as opposed to the 14mm cases used in some countries e.g. Australia. If anyone wants me to modify them for the wider spine or to add some classification markings, just let me know.
Star Wars - John Alvin '95 BD
Empire Strikes Back - John Alvin '95 BD
Return Of The Jedi - John Alvin '95 BD

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#1364394
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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CatBus said:

calculon559 said:

That wouldn’t happen to be the one frame at the end of Reel 5 I mentioned, would it?

It is, but the frame is not a DVD/BD exclusive – it’s a theatrical frame. It’s mentioned in this thread: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Whats-missing-from-GOUT/id/6725/page/1

While I’m sure you’re correct, that thread isn’t as helpful now with all the dead image links 😕

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#1364223
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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CatBus said:
No, Star Wars GOUT sync isn’t the same as theatrical. 4K77 isn’t theatrical sync, they decided to GOUT sync that one. It’s only one frame different.

That wouldn’t happen to be the one frame at the end of Reel 5 I mentioned, would it?

CatBus said:
If we go with theatrical, we’re breaking sync for 4K77 and all of Harmy’s projects (and countless minor/derived projects). And we could even opt to break sync for everything if anyone entertains my crazy ideas about how to implement the theatrical frame standard. Which is kinda why I want the project leads to get together and hammer out some sort of agreement, because it has the makings of a giant cluster if each project just decides to just do its own thing.

This illustrates why the GOUT standard had such staying power – it’s been used since 1993 (a decade before the GOUT it’s currently named for existed), so all kinds of projects gravitated to it for mutual compatibility. You could take an audio track from a 20-year-old Laserdisc preservation project and drop it onto Despecialized released yesterday and it would sync perfectly. Changes to this frame standard should be done in a careful, considered, coordinated manner.

Completely agree, if there’s gonna be this big shift, which I think should happen, it’s needs to be done right.

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#1364176
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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I think we need to move forward to theatrical sync. GOUT sync was a flawed system to begin with, however useful it was. ESB and ROTJ have different frame counts/missing frames depending on if you used the NTSC or PAL versions, and the audio was off by two frames half way through the Jedi NTSC GOUT, which is the one everyone decided to sync to. Theatrical sync has every frame and proper audio sync based on actual film prints, GOUT sync was based on cheap-and-nasty LD->DVD transfers. It was the best we had back then, but not anymore. It’s time to retire GOUT sync imo.

Having said all that, isn’t theatrical sync the same as GOUT sync for Star Wars anyway? I don’t recall any dependencies with Ep 4 other than one frame at the end of reel 5 that was on the DVD/BD but not on any prints or the GOUT so it was omitted.

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#1361820
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Not sure Harmy has been asked this yet BUT…
Will the blue screen shots of the Falcon Cockpit be sourced from 4K77 or the UHD? I only ask because I believe they are the only re composited shots that weren’t replaced with the originals in previous version of Despecialized, for whatever reason. I’m only nitpicking that because previously he’d go to the effort of replacing stuff like the remote or entire shots of Darth Vader on the bridge because they were recomped, but nothing was done about the Falcon cockpit shots which as far I’m concerned have the same ‘problem’.

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#1361819
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Info: Which do you prefer - teamnegative1's 4k77/4k83 or Harmy's Despecialized?
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At this very moment, I’d say the 4Kxx versions, mostly because the quality across the whole feature is basically the same throughout, whereas Despecialized varies from 1080p to barely DVD quality. Having said that, if Harmy can pull off what he’s trying to do with Star Wars Despecialized 3.0 and beyond, his versions would become my preference, especially since I’m still watching stuff at 1080p so any minor differences between the sources at 4K would become negligible.

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#1327560
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4K83 reel by reel color grading (a WIP)
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DrDre said:

For this color grading I quite deliberately didn’t want the colors to “pop”, since most like Broom Kid, who have seen Jedi on the big screen have stated, that it always seemed a little duller and flatter than the other two films in the trilogy. Consequently I’ve attempted to go for a film like color grading with the extra caveat, that Jedi wasn’t that vibrant to begin with.

That’s fair. I guess I’m just used to all home video versions where Jedi was roughly as colorful as Star Wars or Empire, and just expected it as such. Probably not the only one. I’ll take someone like Broom Kid’s word over mine, since he’s actually seen it on the big screen back in the day.

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#1327365
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4K83 reel by reel color grading (a WIP)
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NeverarGreat said:

I’m not at all sure how ROTJ is ‘supposed’ to look, but to my eyes it’s very low on the red/warm tones to the point that the skin tones appear ghostly. Obi-wan looks good though 😉

Yeah, I’m getting that vibe too. Maybe it’s because places like Jabba’s palace are already quite red, and pumping in more red to the skintones turns Jabba’s palace into a volcano? Not sure, just didn’t seem to be a problem with 4K83 V1.0.

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#1325083
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Is the 1997 Special Edition important?
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I’ve been going back and forth on this question for a little bit.

On the one hand, it’s the last time the Star Wars trilogy had a big theatrical re-release, it’s the last time a big effort was made into changing the film (imo), and it’s the version that the O-Neg’s conform to.

On the other hand, it’s neither the original version nor the latest edition, which with Lucas gone will most likely stand as the final version of the trilogy, for better or worse. Basically it’s just a stepping stone that only those who saw it at the pictures when they were young care about.

Thoughts?

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#1324091
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4K77 - Released
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Williarob said:

calculon559 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Williarob will be using Dre’s new correction for an update that will also replace many of the patched-in Blu-Ray frames with new 4K print scans (some from an LPP print, some from a 1997 SE print).

Will there be any frames used from the 4K Disney+ version or have they got all the frames from prints now?

In some instances, the bluray frames could not be color matched to the print. If there are no print sources for a frame and the D+ frames match better, then they will be used. But the goal is to minimize the amount of footage from non 35mm sources used in the 4Kxx projects.

Oohteedee already partially “despecialized” the D+ versions of ANH and ESB using 4K77 and 4K80 sources. (Most of the 4K80 footage he cleaned himself, since that’s not done yet) if that’s what you’re looking for. He calls them “D+77” and “D+80”. Hopefully a D+83 will follow in the not too distant future, and all three D+ projects will quickly be upgraded to use the physical media when that becomes available next month.

Interesting. Didn’t even know about the ‘partially despecialized’ D+ versions.

I only mentioned the streaming 4K versions because, to me at least, that would be the next best source to use if for whatever reason you can’t find the necessary frames from a 35mm source, which would of course be preferable. Not to mention the CC on the Disney+ versions is leagues better than the 2004/2011 versions, so it should be less of a problem to color match to the 35mm material.

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#1299715
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Superman (1941) (Mild-Mannered Edition) (Released)
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Decided to have a go at editing the Warner video to replace the Bosko intro in “Eleventh Hour”, as I thought it stuck out, being the only Mild Mannered short to not use Warner video throughout the whole short.

Using the MM edition as a guide, the opening credits were shortened to match, and the prologue (“streak of lightning”/”pounding surf”/”roaring hurricane”) was flown in from the next short, Destruction, Inc., which matched up perfectly. From the title card card onwards, the short is the same as the Mild Mannered Version, as is the entire audio.

Let me know what you think.

https://youtu.be/MjF--LAWNxE

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#1299177
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Superman (1941) (Mild-Mannered Edition) (Released)
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davextreme said:

I’ve had a number of requests for the master files for these and have finally gotten around to putting them in Dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/aq1ot6nc3yiy9wv/AACf5vCgcGBctqV5zDGacWJca?dl=0

Wow, thanks!

Edit: Unfortunately, skimming through the shorts, the audio on Arctic Giant has a double echo effect, which is definitely not on the YouTube version, not to mention a nasty click right at the end.

Hope that gets fixed!

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#1254551
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Wedge Antilles, 'Col Takbright' and Deepfakes
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ray_afraid said:

calculon559 said:

One of the more glaring errors in A New Hope was pilot Wedge being played by two different actors

Nah. The first guy isn’t called by name in the film and there’s no reason to believe he isn’t just another pilot.
I would like to hear a different voice dubbed for him though.

The first guy wasn’t even credited. Then again, neither was James Earl Jones. Also, every other canon source, including the script, says that Wedge said that line.

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#1254413
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Wedge Antilles, 'Col Takbright' and Deepfakes
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One of the more glaring errors in A New Hope was pilot Wedge being played by two different actors; Colin Higgins in the briefing scene, and Denis Lawson everywhere else, including the two sequels Empire & Jedi. It took until 2017 for this to be ‘corrected’, by simply saying that Colin Higgins was playing a different character, Col Takbright, who has an entire short story devoted to him in the anthology book “From A Certain Point Of View”.

To me, this is nothing more than a cop-out, as every other source prior attributes Higgins’ one line to Wedge. But how else could this be fixed?

Enter “Deepfakes”. High tech video editing using deep-learning algorithms to change people faces, usually to change someone’s facial appearance from one person to another, although it can also be used to change what someone is saying with use of different audio e.g an impersonator.

Now, the question isn’t “Can we change Higgins to look like Lawson in the briefing scene”. The answer to that is Yes. The question is, with the tools that are available to fans, can it be done in high quality and look professional? And should we do it? I feel like those are the more interesting questions.

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#1254162
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Blu-Ray and other HD box size STAR WARS covers
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ChainsawAsh said:

Quick corrections: the director is Gareth Edwards, not Gareth Williams, and in the blurb it should say “retro,” not “retraux.”

Other than that, it looks great!

Ok, no idea how I got Gareth Williams from Gareth Edwards, other than to say I think I knew someone with that name. Still, that’s no excuse. And while “retraux” was intentional (it’s a portmanteau of retro and faux), I’ve decided to change it since it’s clearly not a word everyone knows and would just confuse everyone. I’m sure there’s a better way to word that, but my linguistic skills are down the crapper at the minute.

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#1253455
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Blu-Ray and other HD box size STAR WARS covers
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oojason said:

^ very well done mate. Love the rearrangement of images for the back covers and the long vertical image on each of the left sides too - they look great.

Thanks, but I can’t take credit for the arrangement; as I mentioned earlier on the thread, it’s based on the French '95 Laserdiscs which, as ChainsawAsh said, has more breathing room, and isn’t a hot mess of pictures and words competing for space.