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#54247
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Originally posted by: jimbo
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Originally posted by: Luke30
alexborn007, Your right the sound mix on the 1995 thx home video release is terrible and the dvds of the sw trilogy will be much better because dvds sound better than vhs.


Duh. The sky is blue. Theres water in the specific ocean. DVDs are better then VHS in every possible way. Also I don't understand the winning about Lukes scream. I don't consider it a good change but it is easily ignored. Its the instinct of people to scream when they fall. Its no big deal. I personally don't dislike any of the changes in The Empire Strikes Back. The only changes I dislike are Greedo shooting first and Haydens head.


The main complaint about the scream (on my end at least) is that it seems so unnatural. A lot of the changes in the SE seem quite forced. Sure, the scream is ignorable...but did it ever have to be added? The wampa...eh, I can live with it.

Probably the best opinion on the whole SE thing is that South Park episode when Trey Parker and Matt Stone re-do the 1st episode of the show with the technology they use today instead of the cardboard. They even add some of the same stuff Lucas did. My Point being: I just feel like there's this forced change on ESB and ROTJ (even ANH in places). They had the technology down pretty well by ESB and ROTJ's effects are good by today's over the top CGI...so why bother aside from remastering the negatives and soundtrack? Well whatever, that's been the debate all this time hasn't it?

Oh and I wouldn't pass judgment on the Hayden thing just yet. There are many conflicting reports on that one, just FYI
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#54211
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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
Then you were watching the 97 SEs. Don't worry, the scream irks everyone(except possibly Jimbo).


Hehe. Actually, I formatted the statement wrong. The 1995 release (and previous video releases) had terrible sound mixing. Explosions and other items just sound flat and restrained by the technology.

When the SE's were released in 1997 the only thing that'd bugged me (sound wise...visually is another story!) were those two instances The SE's actually had a really strong and powerful sound stage IMO.

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#54168
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Well...if there's one thing I'd let them touch up for DVD it's the audio for the movies. I recently watched the 1995 releases and the sound mix is really poor. There are all kinds of inconsistancies and flubs in the music (the Emperor's arrival scene has some odd anomalies in the cue). The only sounds that irked me were Luke's scream and the "close the blas door" stuff.
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#54136
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Indeed he is. Actually, from what I've heard, it's been one of the most elaborate sound restorations undertaken for DVD (going back to original 1977 sound stems, etc.). Serves Lucasfilm right for waiting so long. All that film negative was ever gonna do is sit there and rot as every other movie got its proper release. Even the SEs aren't up to snuff with today's technology. By the time the home video release had happened for the SE, DVD was just a glimmer in some video stores and was on par with LD. I vividly remember thinking DVD was going to fail back then. Wasn't until I saw Robocop and some other movies and realized how great it was.

Things like 5.1, 6.1, 5.1 EX and 5.1 ES were infantile and most even nonexistant. The LDs got a great sound remaster, but I'm sure Lucasfilm is gonna want to blow away another trilogy...one about short people and jewelery. Bizarre effects and hoaky dance scenes isn't gonna do it though!
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#54044
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Info: OT Bootleg DVDs
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Originally posted by: svenge
My main question is whether or not the welding scene is done properly. TR47's has it, but it also has a 2-second gap before it which is somewhat jarring...


The Prillaman review doesn't make any mention of this Is there really a noticeable side change on the TR47 set?

Thanks for any info!
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#53747
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Originally posted by: dx3
Originally posted by: jr
these aren't vcds. anybody have any experience with this version? they claim "not compressed". any comments?
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I've seen this set. It is watchable, but you do have half a movie per DVD. If you're close to the TV, it doesn't look so good - there is a fair amount of ... movement (I don't really know what the technical term would be) in the screen. If you're across the room, it looks fine. Not impressive, but fine. I imagine it's better than VHS, but since I don't have access to the THX VHS set I can't say for certain. I've seen it, and I'm still interested in seeing the TR47 and possibly the anamorphic, to see if the quality is better.

The 7-disc job uses the artwork from the SE soundtrack CDs on the discs (providing a convenient Part I and Part II designation for each disc). Don't know which version of the laserdisc it is taken from.


The video and audio is taken from the 1995 Laserdisc releases. I talked with the author of the set and he used the audio and video from that set, and mixed in the audio commentary/extras from the definitive collection. I definitely know what you mean by the movement, it's from the contrast being turned up just a wee bit too high. The laserdiscs have a deeper color palette with none of that movement. They actually look pretty good for the Pre-DVD/HD transfer Lucasfilm had done.


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#53677
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Been reading awhile...anyways...I own the big 7 disc set of the trilogy. I have a screenshot somewhere... From what I can tell though, it has pretty faithful picture but the brightness is turned up too high (I own the 1995 laserdiscs as well) and makes the blacks not as deep as the original discs. Otherwise, its a pretty decent way to watch the films and whatnot without worrying about laser rot. May have to snag a TR47 set just for convenience though...