My friend who is a projectionist talked to the projectionist at Celebration for us:
https://twitter.com/mumbles3k/status/853102458909978624
Spoke to the projectionist at #SWCO and confirmed that these are the same 2K DCPs used for the OT Blu-rays. No 4K (except for Rogue One).
Yuck.
towne32 said:
Some things in 1997 were probably Lucas’s original vision. Other things are surely bullshit.This could be a fun discussion–speculating on the reasons behind each and every change.
Someone here at one point speculated that some of the most pointless 2011 changes might have been done with 3D in mind.
R2’s rocks
Jabba’s door
The Dug thing
(maybe the sparks in ESB?).Compositing in new items on a different plane makes for easy things that can be forced to ‘pop’ in 3D.
It’s also been pointed out to me that some of the audio changes were done because LFL lost the originals or the original audio had been damaged. Luke’s changed dialogue to R2 in Empire Strikes Back being one of the examples.
That makes sense. I found out recently that was the on-set line. You would think it wouldn’t be all that hard to find a decent quality sample, especially considering that they have access to the lossless audio used for the Laserdiscs.
In my opinion, we now have two more chances for an announcement this year: May 4 and May 25. If we don’t hear anything by then, I don’t think we’ll see them in an official capacity any time soon. I think something we have to remember is that even though we have access to these great fan preservations, the general public does not. For a lot of people, the OUT not being released officially is a huge barrier.
The cropping is tighter too. This was probably just done for this video. I can’t imagine they would actually alter the cropping for the digital release.
The 97 definitely has more in common with the 04/11 in terms of content, but it exists as an interesting artifact that bridges the gap between the OOT era and the prequel era. It also helped make people car about Star Wars again (at least according to this Forbes article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/02/01/20-years-ago-star-wars-special-edition-made-star-wars-special-again/#2a613dfc2a61).
Regarding a poster: everything that’s not by Drew Struzan will be a disappointment. I still don’t understand how they were able to drop the ball on the TFA poster. Sad.
It was the worst poster in the history of posters, maybe ever.
And I have great posters, the best posters.
You don’t have to be an ass about it.
I can’t confirm the Star Wars clips are from the SE, since they don’t contain those scenes,
however in most likely scenarios, they are in my opinion.I will post some other shots from them, and more from the ESB clips.
They aren’t publicly available in the higher bitrates, and are scaled down to 1080p.
R1
Didn’t we determine beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s still the SE?
The lightsaber flashes during the Vader/Kenobi duel was the giveaway, IIRC.
I think that assumption was made prior to the SSE being released. I honestly think the lightsabers look like how they appear there.
Very interesting…
What about the shot of the x-wings rolling off and diving towards the death star and the “pov” shot going into the trench? Were those re-comp’d for the SE and, if so, are there any telltale signs of which version we’re looking at in RMW’s reel?
I don’t think so. There weren’t as many recomps in Star Wars and Empire. Most shots were just replaced outright. And if they did recomp it, it’s seamless.
But where
did you find
those clips?later
-DC
Please enlighten us, R1.
I can’t confirm the Star Wars clips are from the SE, since they don’t contain those scenes,
however in most likely scenarios, they are in my opinion.I will post some other shots from them, and more from the ESB clips.
They aren’t publicly available in the higher bitrates, and are scaled down to 1080p.
R1
Didn’t we determine beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s still the SE?
The lightsaber flashes during the Vader/Kenobi duel was the giveaway, IIRC.
I think that assumption was made prior to the SSE being released. I honestly think the lightsabers look like how they appear there.
These screenshots seem to have come from a higher bitrate video than the Vimeo upload. They look much better when not subject to web compression.
I don’t think that showed their grain reduction technique as well. I think it was about their 4k mastering process.
Where did you get this?
Are these region free?
The regraded screenshot is a little harsh on my eyes, but maybe I’m just too used to the grayish BD. I’m definitely interested in seeing more frames (or maybe even a whole clip) regraded to match the 70mm. You can find people all over the Internet who have posted images of the frames they acquired, so it shouldn’t be too hard for get a look at other 70mm frames for reference.
I just saw a 70mm showing last night. The colors in the regrade look correct to me. It had very strong blue-orange contrast, and not the green overtones of that BD frame posted. I couldn’t tell you about sharpness.
Was it film or digital? The digital IMAX only opens up to 1.9:1.
It not a gimmick. 3D has been around in one form or another since the 50’s.
But it never really stuck. I don’t think I’ve talked to anyone that actually enjoys watching movies like that.
Can someone post a screenshot of that shot from the BD?
Was that the extent of it? No mention of which version?
Simpsons quotes are always relevant. 😄
^ I like your avatar Wazzles, it’s very funny, because it shows Homer eating 64 slices of American cheese.
Thank! You’re probably the first person who’s actually got it.
Thanks, but I doubt it. There are a lot of other Simpsons fans, that have been here longer than I.
ie: Frink
You’re the first person who’s actually said anything, at least.
^ I like your avatar Wazzles, it’s very funny, because it shows Homer eating 64 slices of American cheese.
Thank! You’re probably the first person who’s actually got it.
I have to wait for concrete? That sounds hard!
I guess it’s a matter of opinion. I assume it never showed up on home video because stereo compatibility was preferred to what George was calling his definitive version.
There’s nothing wrong with liking something. It really doesn’t matter if he likes it or not. Despite what you say, liking something it entirely subjective.
It looks to me like it will be a retrospective panel about the films and the CG shows. Hayden’s a natural fit for that. That doesn’t mean that they won’t say anything about the OUT, though.
Also, if Hayden’s in TLJ I’m going to be pissed. They should do everything they can not to canonize a specific version of the film. That way either version has legs beyond a curiosity.