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#235438
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235438/action/topic#235438
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Sean, I hope Grandmother is alright.

I hate that my internet connection went down for a day

Zion, just so you know. I have no problem with you being a mod. I hope you weren't offended by anything I said.

Jay, and Dayv, I still respect the both of you and hope you can work out your differences, but I agree Chaltab. I think we all need time to cool off. That is all I'm going to say on the issues.

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#234954
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234954/action/topic#234954
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Originally posted by: Zion
But it sounds like you guys have some sort of built up fowl vendetta against Jay for not appointing you as mods.

I have no desire to be a mod nor do I have a buit up fowl vendetta against Jay.

Originally posted by: Zion
Are you saying that boon's new site has something to do with that?

I didn't, Jay did. He said so on the new site. and then he said it here and then he deleted it, but I know he meant it. I do believe it created the rift between Dayv and Jay that we see here today.

Originally posted by: Zion
Sure, it would have been nice to announce my promotion in the Announcements forum, but that doesn't mean he was trying to be shady about it.

I disagree, there is no other reason not to make the announcement of your promotion in the Announcements section other then to keep it quiet. Can you think of another reason? I can't.

Originally posted by: Zion
Do I detect some hostillity here? First of all, I have nothing against any of you guys. Second, being a mod on a message board is purely a voluntary position, and if I don't have the time, energy, and will to clean up the GSWD forum, I'm not going to do it. This is something you could've went to Jay about. But don't worry, things will probably be changing there fairly soon.


You were the one the complained about how bad things are on that section and critized the Mangler Bros for not cleaing up as if it were their job. If you don't have time, energy and/or will to clean up that section, then don't critize unoffical mods for not cleaning either. Maybe the unoffical mods don't have the time, energy, or will to clean it up either. Does that make them any less worthy than you to be a mod? If your in a glass house, don't throw stones.

Originally posted by: Zion
Again, I have nothing against you or Dayv or anyone else. But understand that just because someone is a very prominent and respected part of a community, it doesn't mean that they "deserve" to be a mod.


If a very prominent and respected part of the community has demonstated that he has will and ability to be mod, he should atleast be considered and if not made mod, he given an honest reason. Just because Jay thinks that someone does not deserve to be a mod doesn't mean that they don't deserve to be mod. Jay is human and can make mistakes.

Originally posted by: Zion

I was a very prominent member of TFN about five years ago. I had a lot of friends there that were mods and Fan Force RSA's. I believed that I too deserved to be a mod because of the way I acted and treated people. But you know what? The administration didn't see things my way and never once was I considered for a mod position. I didn't like their decision, but that doesn't mean I hated them for it or thought any less of them.


Did they atleast give you an explanation as to why not? Did they tell you the reason was that they did not want mods at all and then go and appoint someone else a mod? You're going to tell me you didn't in any way feel slighted? If so, I am happy for you. But still don't blame Dayv he did feel slighted.
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#234903
Topic
Audience reaction to the reveal?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234903/action/topic#234903
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Originally posted by: DocLathropBrown
Just curious, being of the wrong generation, I wanted to ask those of you who saw The Empire Strikes Back in the theaters back in 1980: what was audience reaction like for the Vader/Luke reveal?

I can only wonder what people would have said, done or felt back in the day before it became common knowledge.

Oh, if only I could go back and experience the trilogy on their respective opening days. I'm downloading the famous bootleg of Star Wars from 1977, Pre-ANH. Quality's supposed to be terrible, but I'm curious about audience reaction. That, to me, helps a theatrical film experience if it's a tentpole movie like a SW flick or Batman, Superman, etc...


I don't remember the reaction the threater, but I do remember were the "was Darth Vader really Lukes father?" debate at schools between the releases of ESB and ROTJ.
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#234891
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234891/action/topic#234891
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Originally posted by: Zion
He didn't do it behind anyone's back, there was a thread stickied to the top of the preservation forum. . exactly, there should have been an anncouncement made in the main anncouncement section. Appointing the first ever OT.com mod is big news don't you think? Yet was put in a thread most members would not look at. The point is, the excuse Jay used to not appoint Dayv a mod was that he didn't want mods. When he appointed you a mod, that excuse became null and void.

Originally posted by: Zion

General SW Discussion is a bloody mess because there isn't a mod who frequents it. I also don't see the Mangler Bros. frequenting it either.


Seeing as Jay hasn't made them mods and has told them to stop acting like mods, I don't blame them. Why don't you and the other mods do you job and clean it up?

Originally posted by: Zion
It's great what you guys did in the past for the Off Topic forum, and it's probably one of the reason's why Jay felt it didn't need a dedicated mod.


So now you're telling me the reason Dayv wasn't appointed an offical mod was because of how well he did an unoffical mod? Does that really make sense?

You can not get around the point that for all the hard work Dayv put into this site, he should been made a mod, and the very lest was deserving of a good explanation as to why he wasn't considered.
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#234877
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234877/action/topic#234877
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Originally posted by: Zion

Originally posted by: ricardo
]Then, all of sudden, in a section of the forum some of the member rarly looked at, he appointed a mod.
Let me just say that this is exactly why one of you guys wasn't chosen. Jay chose me because I frequented the preservation forum and several other people showed their support for me. The preservation forum was dying because of the troll DanielB, and people were beginning to leave the site altogether because of him. A mod who frequented that section of the boards needed to be appointed.


um, first that was posted by me not Ricardo. Second, all Jay had to do to solve the problen on the preservation section was ban DanielB. But is very reluctant to do that. Trolls had caused problems all over the place before that, but Jay refused to appoint Dayv and his group moderators cause he said he didn't want mods. Well if he didn't want mods why did all the sudden appoint one? I can understand appointing you a mod in the preservation section. But, it would seem that you're authority has gone beyond the preservation section. Jay should have told Dayy about it instead of doing it behind his back. Why did he not appoint Dayv a mod of the Off Topic Section? When it came time to appoint mods to other sections why were Davy and his group not considered? Davy supported Jay and this site like no one else. IMHO Jay acted ungrateful and disrespectful appointing mods in the way he did.
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#234792
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234792/action/topic#234792
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I hate that Lucas might be leaning back in chair and laughing his head off about this.


My opinion: both side were right about some things both sides and were wrong.

Jay should have made Dayv a mod long time ago he deserved it. But, everytime the discussion came up about making Dayv a mod, Jay responded in so many works that he didn't want mods. Then, all of sudden, in a section of the forum some of the member rarly looked at, he appointed a mod. Dayv never spoke of it openly but I could tell he felt betrayed. Jay never made major announcement of he just quietly did it. Jay should have told everyone about it and explained why Dayv and his group were never considered.

Dayv should have been more open about the creation of his site , I agree that he should not have done it behind closed doors via PMs. But, I think not allowing any links to the site, even deleting a link to a site a that had a link to site, and then deleting posts that talked about that link but didn't post a link themselves went too far. How many flames from trolls have we all had to endure and weren't deleted in the name of freedom of speech? I'm sure Dayv's site and can be found using Yahoo. Will links to Yahoo be deleted as well? What about links to the offical Star Wars forums? they are competing forums will they be deleted. In the name of forum freedom I ask that links be allowed to competing sites.

I will take Jay at his word that it costs him alot of money to run the site. I do not believe he would have tried to take control of Dayv's site had he been allowed to host it. But, I don't see why they can't coexist and work together without having to join under the same site.

Dayv and Jay, I respect both of you. I do not mean to offend either one of you with what I am saying in this post. I think the two of you need to calm down, comprise, apologize to each other and forgive each other. Both sites and the OOT DVD campaign are better off if the two of you are working together than fighting each other. I ask both of you to put your egos aside and try one last time to make peace with each other.
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#234656
Topic
MANGLER BROS., INC. IS NOW CLOSED HERE
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234656/action/topic#234656
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I don't know, Warbler. I know it's not really my business, since, as I just said, I don't really post in this thread, but I figured some of the regulars to this thread would want to post some final thoughts and farewells to this thread before it died, you know?


giving it some thought, agree. I will wait a few days and then I will dead thread it(assuming no one else does so first).