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#380811
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Roman Polanski
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TheBoost said:

 I didn't mean to imply YOU were the one unfairly comparing the two. Just contrasting the two men's treatment in the general media.

I'm not sure you can point to their 'status' without somehow considering race and perception. Vick wasn't just a footbal player. He was a guy from the projects, doing dirty, project crime. I'm not sure if the backlash would have been quite as heated if Brett Favre was caught doing something cruel to animals with less of a social/racial stigma, for example fox hunting illegally or the Victorian sport of ratting (of course, this is impossible to test objectivly). As for Hollywood, I think there would be a very different mood of Spike Lee gave a girl malt liquor and raped her as opposed to Polanski with qualudes and champagne... a difference in perception based on both race and perceived economic class.

you make a good point here  the situation might not have been as heated if Brett Favre was caught fighting dogs.  But, on the other hand, Favre  couldn't play the race card and he would have Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the NAACP to defend him.   Spike Lee would have all those to defend him.   I suspect if Lee was the one who raped a 13 year old girl and fled the country and was then caught, I suspect the outcry injustice would be much larger and would include cries of racism.    Another example: would Pete Rose still be banned from baseball if he were black?

But I do beleive you and I are in agreement that Polansky and Vick are both scum who should have the book thrown at them.

I agree as well.

 

 

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#380677
Topic
Roman Polanski
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Your comparison of Vick to Polanski does a have a little sense to it.    Its one of the reasons I want an example made of Polanski.    What both of them did sickens me.    There are many in the black community that defend Vick.    Many have played the race card.  Meanwhile Pete Rose whose only crime was gambling, can't get into the hall of fame. 

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#380641
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OFFICIAL MLB THREAD
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wow, this thread died a quick death.     But lets bring it back.   The baseball playoffs are about to begin.   My Phillies have won their division for the third time in a row and trying to win the World series for the second time in a row!  Go Phillies!!   Are any of your favorite teams in the playoffs this?     Lets talk some baseball!

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#380640
Topic
NFL
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whatever happened to talking football(American) here?    

This season is very a difficult one for me.   I was a big Eagles fan, but then they signed that dog torturer and murderer Micheal Vick.   I have had dogs all my life.   They are part of my family.   When they have died, I've mourned over them.   What Vick did sickens me and I cant cheer on the Eagles while he is on the team.   what do think?  Am I overreacting?   Should he be forgiven?    Also please talk about other things going on in the NFL.

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#380630
Topic
Roman Polanski
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Bingowings said:

 

Did he?

Was she?

Who really did it?

 

I don't know, but he did confess.   What does say about whether he's guilty or innocent if he confesses and then  flees the country?   I doubt an innocent person would do that.

 

Bingowings said:

 

Is this a case of child rape or child prostitution with blackmail?

 

 

 

either way, Polanski is guilty of a crime.  If he had sex with a minor it's statutory rape.  That's the law.  Her parents may also be guilty of a crime.   But unless Polanski was forced to have sex with the girl, or never had sex with the girl, Polanski is guilty of a crime. 

You are right when you say it should go back to court, so how come Polanski didn't let for so long and still seems to think it shouldn't?

 

 

 

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#380521
Topic
Roman Polanski
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perhaps this could have been discussed in the political thread, but its not really about politics, therefore I created a thread to discuss the issue. 

 

What do you think should be done with him?  Should have been arrested?  Should we lock him up and throw away the key?   Should we just drop the case against him because it was so long ago? 

 

Here's my take:  He may be a great director, but he's a child rapist.   This isn't some case where he sleep with a girl who was almost 18 and the girl was consenting.   The girl in this case was 13 years old and from what I know, kept saying no.   He drugged her and raped her.   If he was an ordinary Joe Smoe,  he would have been in jail a long time ago.   Why should he get special treatment?   Yes, it was along time ago but given the seriousness of the crime,  should the passing of time matter that much?   This also isn't case where you aren't sure he did it.  He confessed.   I am deeply concerned by how some are reacting to his arrest.  I've heard complaints about how dare they use an awards ceremony to arrest him?  I say, too bad.  He's a criminal, you use whatever opportunity you can to arrest him.   I think an example needs to be made of him.    Too many people think he should be allowed to get away with crime because he is such a great director.  People acting like it was a minor offense.  It wasn't, it was CHILD RAPE.    The only reason I agree to drop the case is because the girl herself has said she doesn't want him prosecuted  anymore, she just wants to be done with it.   I can definitely sympathize with her, but like I said, I think an example needs to be made with him and this isn't like a civil case where she can just drop the case.  He seems to think he is above the law because he is this cool and great director.   He's not above the law.    Can someone please show me the other side of the issue?  Why shouldn't a confessed child rapist be punished?