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#1182155
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Let’s look back:

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have.

In short, Conservatives are rational.

But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

Or; I won’t argue with progressives because I fear they are not rational.

interesting interpretation.

Seems like the only interpretation to me. How did you interpret it?

That some Liberals take disagreement more personally. That some Liberals are more offended by disagreement.

Yeah, whole bunch of snowflakes, amirite or amirite?

oh ffs.

Isn’t that basically what you said?

no.

Tell me how.

taking disagreement more personally and/or being more offended by disagreement does not = being a snowflake. At least not in my book.

In your book, what does being a snowflake mean?

I assumed by snowflake you meant someone who was wimpy and/or cowardly and/or weak and/or something like that, and that is not what I meant by any of my comments.

Alright. The prosecution rests.

For now.

Why do you see yourself as some sort of Prosecutor and me as some sort of Defendant?

He’s joking, Warb.

He is?

And “snowflake” in this context means someone who thinks they’re unique and special and therefore are always right about everything.

I honestly did not realize that.

Post
#1182149
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Let’s look back:

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have.

In short, Conservatives are rational.

But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

Or; I won’t argue with progressives because I fear they are not rational.

interesting interpretation.

Seems like the only interpretation to me. How did you interpret it?

That some Liberals take disagreement more personally. That some Liberals are more offended by disagreement.

Yeah, whole bunch of snowflakes, amirite or amirite?

oh ffs.

Isn’t that basically what you said?

no.

Tell me how.

taking disagreement more personally and/or being more offended by disagreement does not = being a snowflake. At least not in my book.

In your book, what does being a snowflake mean?

I assumed by snowflake you meant someone who was wimpy and/or cowardly and/or weak and/or something like that, and that is not what I meant by any of my comments.

Alright. The prosecution rests.

For now.

Why do you see yourself as some sort of Prosecutor and me as some sort of Defendant?

Post
#1182145
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Let’s look back:

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have.

In short, Conservatives are rational.

But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

Or; I won’t argue with progressives because I fear they are not rational.

interesting interpretation.

Seems like the only interpretation to me. How did you interpret it?

That some Liberals take disagreement more personally. That some Liberals are more offended by disagreement.

Yeah, whole bunch of snowflakes, amirite or amirite?

oh ffs.

Isn’t that basically what you said?

no.

Tell me how.

taking disagreement more personally and/or being more offended by disagreement does not = being a snowflake. At least not in my book.

In your book, what does being a snowflake mean?

I assumed by snowflake you meant someone who was wimpy and/or cowardly and/or weak and/or something like that, and that is not what I meant by any of my comments.

Post
#1182140
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Let’s look back:

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have.

In short, Conservatives are rational.

But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

Or; I won’t argue with progressives because I fear they are not rational.

interesting interpretation.

Seems like the only interpretation to me. How did you interpret it?

That some Liberals take disagreement more personally. That some Liberals are more offended by disagreement.

Yeah, whole bunch of snowflakes, amirite or amirite?

oh ffs.

Isn’t that basically what you said?

no.

Tell me how.

taking disagreement more personally and/or being more offended by disagreement does not = being a snowflake. At least not in my book.

Post
#1182139
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Which is fine. My issue is declaring it “truth” like it’s some universal constant.

I read it as Warbler saying it was true for him/his experience, not that it was objective truth.

He’s just mad because I’m always hostile to him.

right now I mad at the constant snide references to the fact that I went private for a bit.

Is it something that you’re ashamed of?

no.

Post
#1182137
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Let’s look back:

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have.

In short, Conservatives are rational.

But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

Or; I won’t argue with progressives because I fear they are not rational.

interesting interpretation.

Seems like the only interpretation to me. How did you interpret it?

That some Liberals take disagreement more personally. That some Liberals are more offended by disagreement.

Yeah, whole bunch of snowflakes, amirite or amirite?

oh ffs.

Isn’t that basically what you said?

no.

Post
#1182134
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Which is fine. My issue is declaring it “truth” like it’s some universal constant.

I read it as Warbler saying it was true for him/his experience, not that it was objective truth.

He’s just mad because I’m always hostile to him.

right now I mad at the constant snide references to the fact that I went private for a bit.

Post
#1182133
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Let’s look back:

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have.

In short, Conservatives are rational.

But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

Or; I won’t argue with progressives because I fear they are not rational.

interesting interpretation.

Seems like the only interpretation to me. How did you interpret it?

That some Liberals take disagreement more personally. That some Liberals are more offended by disagreement.

Yeah, whole bunch of snowflakes, amirite or amirite?

oh ffs.

Post
#1182131
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Let’s look back:

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have.

In short, Conservatives are rational.

But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

Or; I won’t argue with progressives because I fear they are not rational.

interesting interpretation.

Seems like the only interpretation to me. How did you interpret it?

That some Liberals take disagreement more personally. That some Liberals are more offended by disagreement.

Some?

Some liberals take disagreement more personally and are offended by disagreement more than whom? Other liberals? Some conservatives? Both?

I mean, no shit. Being liberal ain’t got nothin’ to do with it.

ok.

Post
#1182121
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Let’s look back:

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have.

In short, Conservatives are rational.

But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

Or; I won’t argue with progressives because I fear they are not rational.

interesting interpretation.

Seems like the only interpretation to me. How did you interpret it?

That some Liberals take disagreement more personally. That some Liberals are more offended by disagreement.

Post
#1182096
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

suspiciouscoffee said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Let’s look back:

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have.

In short, Conservatives are rational.

But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

Or; I won’t argue with progressives because I fear they are not rational.

interesting interpretation.

Post
#1182082
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

You quoted an article that said that, and proclaimed it “truth.”

I quoted part of the article and proclaimed it “truth”.

The part I quoted does not say that only Conservatives are rational.

Post
#1182067
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

Almost like Frink is trying to prove the article right!

😃

Post
#1182064
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

Post
#1182059
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

i suppose you can believe whatever you want, despite our saying the opposite?

I suppose I can.

yay, end of that particular discussion then.

Well you don’t want to participate anymore, that is fine. But please don’t speak for anyone else.

He speaks for me.

Then you are free not to participate as well.

Post
#1182057
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Post
#1182055
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

i suppose you can believe whatever you want, despite our saying the opposite?

I suppose I can.

yay, end of that particular discussion then.

Well you don’t want to participate anymore, that is fine. But please don’t speak for anyone else.

Post
#1182051
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

i suppose you can believe whatever you want, despite our saying the opposite?

I suppose I can.

Post
#1182050
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

My grandmother for years said we were like 1/32 native american… something about her having a grandmother named “Hawk” or some such. Well, my sister just took a test and it turns out we have absolutely zero native american DNA. Apparently this is a common story.

Doesn’t mean you don’t have a Native ancestor that far back but at that point the amount inherited can be negligible/undetectable. And that grandmother’s grandmother might have only been half, making less likely to find. It’s even possible to have no DNA from an ancestor (which seems paradoxical). There is a lot of pride taken in the possibility of a Native ancestor.

So you’re saying even if Warren took the test and had no Native DNA, she still might have a Native ancestor? If that’s the case, why would she risk seeming wrong even if she isn’t?

Exactly right. And what dahmage said. Might behoove her to give an apology for at least overselling/exploiting her possible heritage. She did embarrassing things in that regard. She doesn’t want this to persist as a symbol of an overall character of dishonesty. Some people will never let go of it but whatchya gonna do.

It just seems like a weird situation. She put down that she was part Cherokee decades ago.

Maybe she shouldn’t have done that if all she is basing it on is a family story that could be wrong.

It was only brought up again recently because of her political opponents.

and the fact that she won’t take a test that could prove the claim.

When it was, she explained how her parents always told her she was part Native.

Is there any proof her parents told her that?

So what is she supposed to do now? What is she supposed to apologize for?

If she made the whole thing up, she should apologize for that .

Wouldn’t saying sorry imply that she lied?

if you ask me, refusing to take a DNA test implies that she is lying.

Even if she did lie, it’d be silly to admit as much.

but it would be honest.