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Warbler

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#1248831
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

Perhaps the way I used it maybe. But I do think the term can be used in a way that doesn’t imply that it should be fought against.

It really can’t in this context.

In what context? The context I was using it in? If so, ok. But the wording of Frink’s post implied a problem with the words themselves and not just in the context that I used them.

Remember an agenda isn’t always bad.

Again, context. No one uses phrases like “feminist agenda” or “gay agenda” in any other context than antagonistic toward the group with said “agenda.”

Perhaps it rarely happens, but no one?

If you look in up in a dictionary the word “agenda”, it neither implies negative or positive connotation.

Post
#1248825
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

So, what is wrong with mentioning the words “feminist agenda”? I think we have to agree that whether the agenda is good or bad, right or wrong, Feminists do have agenda. I think even feminists themselves would agree that they have an agenda. So why does using the words “feminist agenda” = “saying stupid shit”?

It’s stupid because you think that having a female lead is the equivalent of having a feminist agenda.

Nope, that is not what I think.

Warbler said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/protester-national-anthem-dallas-urges-fans-vote-republican-221825956.html

As I feared someone else has used the national anthem as a time for protest.

No one cares about this country’s stupid anthem.

Just because you don’t, doesn’t mean nobody does.

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#1248729
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Collipso said:

and here i thought you were going to drop it…

Sorry, curiosity got the better of me. But I did get it out of the Dr. Who thread. I don’t really want a long drawn out debate about the pros and cons of feminism. I certainly don’t want another debate about feminism and Dr. Who. It is just the way Frink stated what he said here:

TV’s Frink said:

Maybe he shouldn’t say stupid shit like “feminist agenda.”

It seemed like he had a problem with the mere use of the words “feminist agenda”. As I said above, I think it is clear that a feminist agenda does exist, be it good or bad. So I am just wondering what is wrong with the mere use of the words.

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#1248641
Topic
Doctor Who
Time

ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

and the typical Doctor Who formula always seems a little childish to me.

You do realize that it originated as a children’s/family type show, right?

Sure, but that doesn’t mean the series can’t mature with the times, which I’d argue it has.

Sure. But he said “the typical Doctor Who formula always seems a little childish to me.” My point is, that there is a reason for that: the show originated as a children’s show. When a show originates as a children’s show, it should be no surprise that the typical formula for said show would seem a little childish.

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#1248600
Topic
Doctor Who
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Maybe Warbler should stop bringing it up over and over.

All I did was bring up the fact that I was disappointed that the Doctor didn’t have a bigger reaction to discover that he was now female.

Then ChainsawAsh said this:

ChainsawAsh said:

Warb, you were worried that they were going to shove the gender change in your face before

Which was somewhat inaccurate and so I corrected him and said what I was actually worried about.

I don’t see what I did wrong in that. It was not an attempt to bring something up over and over again, it was an attempt to address an inaccuracy. It was not intended to have a full blown discussion on feminism.

Finally, maybe Frink should stop tilting at windmills.

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#1248597
Topic
Doctor Who
Time

Anchorhead said:

Tobar said:

That was one thing I was glad of. The less they draw attention to it the better.

I was glad of that also. There will be time this new season to address it occasionally if it works with the story, but no need to make it a plot point the way I suspect Moffat would have. Moffat’s not really a less is more guy.

I didn’t mean it should be a plot point.

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#1248596
Topic
Doctor Who
Time

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I too was expecting some sort of reaction. That fan-made series with the woman doctor by Rian Johnson had a nice reaction, where she is saying “something’s not right”, then catches sight of her reflection in a window while walking down the street… “Oh no! it’s all wrong!”

Probably wouldn’t have been a good idea to use the word “wrong”. Some might be offended at the use of “wrong” when finding out one is female.

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#1248595
Topic
Doctor Who
Time

Possessed said:

I’d like to go on record and say that’s not what I was saying (Although it is true). What I was saying was basically much more specifically said by ashsawchain

You mean this:

ChainsawAsh said:

Warb, you were worried that they were going to shove the gender change in your face before, and now you’re saying they didn’t bring it up enough?

There ish no pleeeeasink you! [/Goldmember voice]

?

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#1248482
Topic
Doctor Who
Time

ChainsawAsh said:

Warb, you were worried that they were going to shove the gender change in your face before, and now you’re saying they didn’t bring it up enough?

There ish no pleeeeasink you! [/Goldmember voice]

I just think the Doctor should have had a bigger reaction to becoming a woman(remember how the 11th Doctor started to react when he thought for a moment that he had regenerated into a female?). And my worry was about a feminist agenda being shoved in our faces, not just the gender change.

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#1248403
Topic
Doctor Who
Time

Handman said:

It would make sense either way for me, but I am glad there wasn’t a lot of emphasis on it. The Doctor was never really bothered at having become an old man after being young Matt Smith for hundreds of years.

But he had been an old man before. He is used to being a man of varying ages. Also, he is, regardless of appearance, old. The Doctor has never, ever been a woman before. Finally, I could have he was bothered at being old in “Deep Breath”.