The video came out for the digital releases so that would make sense, but.... grain looks more refined, color is less video looking not as dark. I know this isn't a great reference at all (a stream from the star wars site) but the footage looked/felt different.
Call me crazy but (also don't know if this has been mentioned/posted before) it feels like the footage in this video is from a new/different/Reliance's(?) scan:
http://www.starwars.com/video/designing-the-light-saber-star-wars-discoveries-from-the-inside
Bummer about epix, from the old netflix version and other streaming versions that popped up (google play, etc) a halfway decent 2.35:1 version is ready for primetime. I'd love to know the reason why the 4:3 version is shown again and again.
Looks like this is popping up on Epix HD this week.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085780/board/thread/228977564
will it be 2.35:1? can anyone cap it?
msycamore said:
VideoPhonic said:
First time seeing the film, but it included the Buck Rodgers trailer before it, which leads me to believe it's the late 70s rerelease version.
The Buck Rodgers trailer was in the original 1971 release as well, a 1971 review in Variety mentioned it. But everything seems to indicate you guys saw the 1978 re-release version.
The five 1888' reels on the BFI label explains the running time they had on their site.
Yeah definitely the '78 version, also it had the Saul Bass Warners logo.
Not familiar with the other versions of the film. What shots would signify that it's extended?
Just saw the 35mm print at the Prince Charles
It's definitely a print from early on, it was pretty rough and beginning to fade. Totally watchable, color came and went from shot to shot.
First time seeing the film, but it included the Buck Rodgers trailer before it, which leads me to believe it's the late 70s rerelease version.
This is a second listing of the Keep on Amazon, this one is for rental and purchase as opposed to the other listing on Amazon which is streaming for free on prime (the 4:3 video master, which recently popped up on Netflix as well, as opposed to the widescreen master that was previously there)
Anyone think this is worth a rental or purchase for capping, etc.
Also the Keep documentary facebook page has been consistently updated with some great stuff, definitely a very exciting project:
https://www.facebook.com/wwiifairytale
In addition here's a better quality version of the alternate ending that popped up on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLw9z0IZydQ
and some behind the scenes footage and an interview with Mann as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBKD9MvhE4A
Still trying to look for a version of the film superior to the Netflix rip
Alright, I'll look into it. was playing it on Mac Blu Ray Player and I had trouble with it on VLC as well. I'll try to burn it and see what happens.
Looks great but video sticks/glitches from from after the main titles until around 8 minutes in. Anyone else having this problem?
yeah, looks just like the video master, which has some decent detail, but very dated and the colors are all wrong. Probably the best thing about the NF rip is the color, which strongly matches the very saturated theatrical look (the 35mm print I saw had pinkish skin tones for example). Also, I rented The Keep via Google Play/YouTube and it's the newer master, but it's very compressed.
Ah well, the search or wait for a release of a superior master continues.
good to know. I'm all for trying to find out if anyone did an HD capture. I'd be curious to know if the SD is any better than the Netflix rip though.
Darn. If it is true HD it be a real missed opportunity if it's not captured.
I'll hold out hope for something.
URGENT. FOLKS IN THE UK. Film4 (HD?) is airing this tonight (8/15) at 11:20pm
It would be fantastic if someone could try and record this.
The BFI's print is the one I saw in NY, dinged up a bit, but phenomenal detail and color (there were thoughts of a very elaborate heist, but I settlds with just watching the film).
Also The Keep is streaming on Epix HD's site from what appears to be a superior master, however the stream is quite pixelated and squashed to 1.78:1
The Keep is available to rent or purchase in SD on Google Play or YouTube: https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/The_Keep?id=UjAqWOnXu18&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsIm1vdmllLVVqQXFXT25YdTE4Il0......no idea if it's the 4x3 video master or 2.35:1. May look further into it....anyone else interested?
I was also able to see this recently on 35mm, as expected it was gorgeous. Hopefully more news of this will come, as Paramount (or Warner?) seems pretty lax about distributing this digitally.
I don't want to link the site where I downloaded the 1.46GB netflix rip here, but if anyone wants to PM me for it, that's cool (if that's within guidelines) though I did just find it through google. I would upload it to myspleen, etc. but I'm really not experienced on that front.
The netflix version is definitely the best I've seen.
While the amazon version is a decent version of the video master it is in 4x3, 2.35:1 is essential for a good representation of the film.
It is not currently on Netflix in the US, it is on Amazon instant, albeit in 4x3 and clearly taken from the video master.
Since it's Paramount, Olive is possible. However Paramount dumped most of its catalog (and almost certainly The Keep with it) with Warner and it definitely seems like a title Warner might be interested in, maybe through the Warner Archive. It'd be awesome if Arrow got a crack at it... who holds the rights to it in the UK? Paramount as well?
I've heard rumblings about a new HD master being made a few years ago. It'd be great if Mann was involved, but it's obviously not a priority for him, I don't know if he's even talked publicly about it since before its theatrical release.
Speculation aside, it would be really nice if someone in the UK were able to record and capture it the next time it appears on Sky.
Glad that there's interest in this title.
I'd be grateful for a CG invite as well, though I don't have anything to offer.
I'm in the US and I haven't seen it pop up on tv. Anyone ever record it from Sky (and does sky show it in 2:35:1)?
Nevertheless, I was able to grab what appears to be the Netflix rip online after a lot of searching (I had the link here, but that might be against OT guidelines)
(Again, I'm not connected with CG, usenet, etc.)
I'm quite happy with it. Its 1.45 GB 720p MKV, so it's very compressed, but much cleaner than the LD rips I've found, the colors and sound are very nice as well. I'm curious when this master is from, created for a DVD perhaps, I believe folks had said that while it was 720p streaming on Netflix, the master didn't appear to be true HD.
I've burned it to DVD as well and happy with the results, but again if there is anything out there superior to the NF rip out there, I'd like to know.
For reference...
Here's a cap of my copy of the LD rip:
And the NF rip:
Wanted to bump this. Anyone know the best version of this...still the NF rip. If so, anyone know of its availability, Im not a CG member. As of know The Keep is off Netflix and is streaming on Amazon, but in a 4x3 version that is clearly the video master.
Curious about this as well. Wasn't there a Warner logo at the end of the Monsters HD print, meaning that Warner has/had US tv rights and possibly originated the HD scan/print. The rights situation on this one is confusing and makes me wonder who is responsible for the HD print of the New World version.
Good to hear YouToo, so there's a chance we'll be seeing the disc on myspleen in the near future?
Wow, team negative 1! Very exciting. Wasn't a member of the old site but this looks so promising. I'm getting repetitive now, but I can't wait to get a closer look at all of the work that's being done.