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#161068
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The Skywalker Legacy (working title) (* unfinished project *)
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The plan is for a trilogy of edits, complete with flashbacks for each.

Each movie will be a cut-down version of the corresponding Episode from the OT. I'll be using footage mainly from the SE, as well as from Darth Editous's edit of ANH as the basis for that episode. Flashback footage will come from the PT DVDs. I very briefly considered using some Clone Wars footage, while discussing this project with my roommate, but decided to keep everything purely live-action. Too many inconsistencies in introducing cartoon footage into what will otherwise be a serious project.

Thanks for the suggestion about title cards though!
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#160667
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/160667/action/topic#160667
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Originally posted by: MTHaslett
InfoDroid --

This project is very much in your hands. As Trooperman is boss on SOTD, you have to be boss here. There are too many ways to do this and you're the one who's going to put in the hard work.

This is certainly the truth, MTH. While the rest of us may chime in with ideas of what direction could be taken with certain plot points, in the end, you're the one doing the work, InfoDroid, and in the end, it's your name on the movie, not the rest of ours. We may each have our own ideas, but you're ther man putting it all together, guiding and shaping your own vision of what the Star Wars universe is about.

If we can reinsert the reference that a pilot makes to Luke's father before flying off to Yavin -- this will have power to it.


If anyone can find this footage in its entirety, I definitely want a copy. I believe you're referring to the scene in the hangar on Yavin with Biggs and Red Leader, where Red Leader says that he saw Luke's father fly, and if he's half the pilot his father was, he'll do okay. This scene was, of course, cut down when added to ANH in the SE, and I haven't been able to come across a complete, uncut version of the scene. I'd been hoping to use it in my own project, inserting it as a bridge to a flashback sequence that would show Anakin's skill as a pilot in the opening space battle in ROTS. That would then segue into the battle at Yavin.

Anyway, I'd love to see this footage in its entirety someday. If even the audio alone of the unabridged line can be found, we'll all have a big piece to play with for our subsequent projects.
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#160237
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/160237/action/topic#160237
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Let's see, where can I start....


MTH:
Originally, the OT was released as three movies about Luke Skywalker (with Han Solo getting his own Main Character Story tucked into Episode V). But that changed with the release of Episode I-- then came a second way of looking at the OT: as the second half of Anakin's story -- the redemption of Anakin Skywalker.

You see, that's where we disagree. The OT is not about Anakin's redemption until ROTJ. I really believe that the parallels between the episodes of each trilogy best illustrate how similar people in similar circumstances are not destined to have the same failings. The next generation is not doomed to the mistakes of their fathers. That's the big message I take from the Saga as a whole when you look at the two trilogies together.


From that point of view, the shift to Luke in Episode IV is undermined -- Episode IV is no longer "ACT I" in any way. It's more like Act II of the saga.

I don't agree that waiting until Episode V for Luke to find out something we already know is a good enough reason to sacrifice Obi Wan and Yoda's integrity. The BIG PICTURE is exactly what I'm trying to protect -- Big Picture character arcs should take higher priority over protecting any story beat -- no matter how beloved. If we have a beat that violates a character's arc then it should go. The idea that they are "protecting" Luke from the truth is just nonsense. Protecting him from what? Would he be less likely to want to help Leia and the Rebellion if Obi Wan treated him like an adult and told the truth? Of course not. It is not honorable, serves no purpose, and makes Obi Wan and Yoda chumps when their little lie nearly destroys the Galaxy. It was a necessary evil in the design of the "Reveal" as done in 1980. But it is not central to the Saga and I'd like to see it go.

One again, I'd disagree. It's not a matter of a lack of integrity really. Obi-Wan learned from experience that teaching the ways of the Force to someone who was not raised by the Jedi Order has many pitfalls and must be taken slowly. Feeding him all the info that he eventually discovers in the OT could make Luke very emotionally disturbed, questioning whether he is destined to follow in his father's footsteps and turn to the Dark Side. That doubt would lead to fear of becoming Vader. That fear could either lead him down the path to becoming the next apprentice or to staying on the sidelines, afraid to act because of his fearsof his own destiny.

Obi-Wan already lost Anakin, so I think he'd want to bring Luke along more slowly. Why heap on the baggage of his father being the second greatest evil known in the galaxy? It doesn't have to be a deal where he tells Luke that Vader killed Anakin or that Vader is Anakin. The omission of Anakin's fate in any form would simplify Luke's path, I believe. One step at a time on this path.

The Parallels between the OT and PT Episodes are mere echoes -- thematic notions. They are not structural and fall apart at any high-resolution examination. Luke at the tree can hardly be equated with Anakin ACTUALLY killing Sandpeople babies in any serious way. These echoes or parallels will still be there anyway. But Luke's vulnerablity to the Dark Side would now come from his inexperience and from the sheer power available to him from the Force. It shouldn't come from exposing a lie told to him by Obi Wan. Preserving anything like that at the expense of character is what I consider getting caught up in details and missing the big picture.

I think these thematic parallels are the biggest selling point for combining the OT and PT in any way though. Showing how each character has similar failings and successes, weaknesses and strengths, but they turn out as completely different people in the end. Luke's strength, and the fact that he's really not exactly like his father, allows for Anakin's redemption. Until ROTJ, there isn't much redemption to be seen for Vader, so I've never really understood how anyone could claim that the OT is now more about Anakin's redemption.

I believe now as I did when ROTJ was first released that the OT was about how we don't have to inherit the sins of our fathers. We don't have to follow in their footsteps. Their destiny is not ours, no matter how similar our lives may be along the way.

I love the "migraine maker" and can't wait for that edit. I know we have a lot of talented and insightful minds posting here. There are many edits that will preserve the Obi Wan lie and attempt to justify it and leave in Luke's surprise discovery of his parentage. I hope that we can find a different way with this one.

Thanks! Since I'm such a novice with the software required, the ideas may wind up better than the actual execution, but I'm always happy to hear someone is looking forward to the stuff I'm working on. This is a long road for me, though hopefully not so long as the path Trooperman has taken with the masterful SOTDS.

A big reason for me comes during ROTJ. When you look at that movie on its own, it's a structural mess. It has wide gaps in any Main Character story, created by its various sub-plots. Luke's story lacks the cohesive feel of the first two movies. Han's not a Main Character in his own sub-plot anymore as it gets picked up from Leia's point of view. Lando gets a sub-plot that has very little character development. Vader suddenly acts as if he mourns the loss of his life as "Anakin" -- a past we didn't even know existed and which makes him very different from the villain he was for the first two films.

This last part was the weakest part for me when the movie came out. The Star Wars films so far had been excellent in great part because Vader was so bad -- strangling people and cutting down Jedi. It was hard for me to accept a Vader who said things like "It's too late for me, my son."

But...

With the PT -- all that material took life. Suddenly ROTJ had a Main Character -- VADER/ANAKIN. His story is not interrupted. He appears in the first scene and goes through a clear dramatic arc-- the completion of which brings a cap to the whole Saga. We were not aware that he could be a Main Character in the first release because we had no way of getting into his head. But watching it "in order," there's no way to stay OUT of his head. All those close ups and pauses as he leads Luke to the Emperor are now full of meaning -- Anakin, deep inside, is having second thoughts. That didn't work for Darth Vader -- but it works fine for Anakin Skywalker.

I can understand this to some degree, but I think that ROTJ sums up the strengths of Luke and how his success can inspire Anakin to turn back from the Dark Side, more than it's about Anakin finding the strength within himself. Speaking as a big-time Vader fan, I believed at first there was a lot of background that could have been shown, but I remembered that the OT had been mostly about Luke for the first two movies for a good reason, and so Vader's story would have to wait for another day. When the PT came out, that was Vader's tragic story.

All of that having been said, I believe that ROTJ is a big mess no matter how you look at it. Everything before the climactic battle on the DS II is pretty superfluous. Too much time spent getting to the meat of the story, I think. Just my opinion though.

So the Saga has a clear "intended" arc. But each Episode has its own issues screwing things up.

Each episode has flaws when viewed as a whole, I agree, and that's what these projects will hopefully correct, though you and I will respectfully disagree on how it can be corrected.

Episode I has no Anakin story -- the kid just blunders his way into the Naboo battle and wins the day without a hint of awareness of anything important happening around him.

I wouldn't say there's no Anakin story. Yes, he does seem to get by on blind luck a lot, but as Obi-Wan says in ANH, "In my experience, there's no such thing as luck." This is where we begin to see Anakin's potential, just as we later see the same potential from Luke in ANH.

Episode II has a truly unlikable Anakin going through the motions of a crisis without generating any real emotion.

The only significance to Anakin's story is we see the potential for a fall in this one, with his lack of patience, his anger, and his arrogance. It was poorly executed though, no matter how you look at it, I agree.

Episode III has a great sense of emotion and completion to Anakin's fall (despite various opinions about the details). But it completes a story that wasn't working and which doesn't really mesh with...


It's like GL wanted to compensate for the lack of energy and emotion of I & II and wow did he ever pack 3 movies' worth into one. Once again though, the details leave some people feeling as the execution is lacking in ways.

Episode IV -- a nearly perfect movie, which in itself is violated by the continuity grafted onto it by the sequels. Suddenly and without any sensible motivation, Obi Wan lies to Luke about Anakin's life. Anakin, meanwhile, murders his old mentor and demonstrates in every way possible that there is no good left in him.


This is why I feel the OT remains Luke's story, not just about Vader's redemption.

Episode V -- Obi Wan pulls Yoda into his lie and refuses to let it be exposed even as Luke rushes off into battle with Vader. Then Vader demonstrates in every way possible that no good remains in him.


Once again, seeing Vader as such a force of evil, with few redeeming qualities,leaves this movie once again as Luke's.

Episode VI -- Luke starts talking about all the good he sees in Vader. Then, without half-trying, he gets Vader to all but admit it. Obi Wan tries to excuse his own lies and Luke intuitively brings about Vader's redemption without the benefit of anyone's tips, help or guidance. He just concocts a whole plan on the battlefields of Endor and jogs off to go redeem his dad. Lucky for the Rebellion, it works perfectly.


ROTJ is by far the weakest resolution for a six-movie saga possible as it stands now, I think we can agree. There's too many coincidences, too little planning, and too little continuity with the flow of the other movies in the saga, either OT or PT. The end is what was important though. Luke helping Anakin find the strength to redeem himself and destroy the Empire he helped create.

These Episodes could hold together nicely if they really were the fall and rise of Anakin Skywalker -- a gifted Jedi who was seduced by the Dark Side only to be redeemed by the power that his son finds in using the good side of the Force.

That story's just not really there... yet.


I believe I've already stated my view on the saga, so once again, I'll say we may have to agree to disagree.

InfoDroid:
Your clip of Ben's Hut was fantastic and is in some ways reminscent of what I'd like to show when I get to ROTJ in my project. I agree with MTH that showing the mechanical hand was pure genius at that point. Too cool to be believed. I may not agree with all the content, but the way you put it all together was very well done.

I also like the concepts of what was shown in the duel clip you showed us. Very interesting indeed, and it does help to tie things together thematically. It may have been a bit rough, but the ideas show through very well and make things more interesting, I think.

As for your alternate take on the Ben's Hut scene, I believe that a lot of that could go into showing the conservative approach I had suggested. Doesn't have to be a radical departure from your take there at all.

This one would be structured differently, to begin straight away with Leia's message already beginning when we're seeing the exterior of Ben's Hut.

We cut inside and listen to the message with Ben and Luke.

When Leia is finished, Luke turns to Ben and asks "You fought in the Clone Wars?"


This is damn near perfect, I think. A great setup for the rest of the conservative take of the scene.

Which provokes the story of Anakin.


This could be the perfect spring board into Obi-Wan's description of the Jedi and the Force. From there, he can lead into how he wanted to give Luke his father's lightsaber but his uncle wouldn't allow it. Let Obi-Wan keep him distracted with tales of the Jedi and the Force and how he's needed for the Rebellion.


Ben ends with, "You must learn the ways of the Force, if you are to come with me to Alderaan."

Luke recoils.
"Listen, I can't get involved. I've got work to do."
"That's your uncle talking."
"My uncle... How am I ever going to explain this?"
"I need your help, Luke. She needs your help. I'm getting too old for this sort of thing."
"I can take you as far as Anchorhead. You can get a transport there to Mos Eisley or wherever you're going."
"You must do what you feel is right, of course."


Perfect. I lke that a lot.

So those were a few ideas for the scene off the top of my head this morning as I wind down from a long night at work.

Overall, I beleive this will be an amazing event to watch when everything is said and done. I thank you all for listening to my ideas and hearing me out. I believe that the changes needed can be done, but that we don't need to rewrite everything to make it work. Obi-Wan's tale can be more of a subtle omission as I proposed. While it may not be the path this project takes, I think I can play devil's advocate and argue for a different option at times in this process. The more ideas the better, I believe. Once the framework is established, the details can fill themselves in.

I'll poke my head in here from time to time, as I've done with TM's SOTDS thread. This should be very interesting to see how it progresses!
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#160151
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/160151/action/topic#160151
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Personally, I feel that the reveal is not something that is "broken" in the saga. As THX said, having the audience know what Luke doesn't, does not ruin that moment. If you've seen the PT, you're just waiting for Luke to find out what the truth is. Seeing his reaction, seeing the look of betrayal and confusion on his face, that is what the scene is about.

As for the setup for a six-movie saga, I think you're focusing too much on details at the start. If you truly wish to accomplish a cohesive six-part saga, you need to think big picture first. The details can be filled in later and will be much easier if you have the framework in place ahead of time. You'll already know what you should or shouldn't have in each act.

The main character in the PT is Anakin -- it's his story, and we're following his saga. Viewing the OT is viewing the saga of Luke. Focusing on Luke allows us to see where Luke succeeded where Anakin could not. Looking at them as one six-movie saga is fine, so long as you understand that you can use this to show the difference in their developments. As bad as the PT is at times, there are many parallels you can play off of between the OT and PT. Many times they're flip-flopped in some way, but the parallels are there nontheless.

For example, in ESB we see Luke is vulnerable to being lured to the Dark Side if he is not careful, as he acts rashly, throwing himself into action to save his friends, who are the only family he has left. Anakin does much the same in AOTC by leaving his assignment on Naboo to go save his mother on Tatooine, and then again to save Obi-Wan, the only family he has really. Both of them have scenes foreshadowing a turn to the Dark Side -- Luke's is in the tree on Dagobah, where he battles the Vader constructed by his own thoughts, where he is in the armor; Anakin slaughters an entire clan of Tusken Raiders, killing each and every last one.

The sets on Grievous's ship and the DS II throne room are very much alike. I found it somewhat symbolic that Obi-Wan and Anakin must journey downstairs to the Chancellor from the doorway in the third act of Anakin's arc, where Luke must climb the stairs, rising up against the Emperor. One shows the fall of the Jedi and one shows their rise, whether this is the intended message by Lucas or not. Anakin descends into darkness to beat Dooku. Luke, when in shadow under the stairs, gives in to the Dark Side against Vader, in a seeming parallel of events from ROTS. But Luke sees the parallel himself and realizes the error of his ways, giving him the difference needed to stay away from Emperor's clutches.

I'm a bit short on time here at the moment, but I'll post my list of parallels tomorrow. For now though, this looks like a very interesting project and I look forward to it being completed sometime.
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#160043
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/160043/action/topic#160043
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First off, I'm very happy to see this thread, as I believe there is certainly room to create an entirely new version of the six-episode saga. For the record, I heartily believe that flashbacks can indeed have a place in Star Wars, which is stating the obvious for those of you familiar with my own work-in-progress.

I have a suggestion to start off. There's a much easier way to avoid the whole problem of Obi-Wan lying. It's not quite the route that was already discussed, but I think it could work well.

Simply omit the reference to Vader killing Anakin. Remove the question that Luke asks -- "How did my father die?" Rearrange other dialogue as necessary to make things flow.

I'm quite happy about how this entire scene plays out as is, myself (which is what the BigMigMaker in my project is all about, of course), but I believe the best way to remove the whole problem and avoid losing the impact of Vader's revelation is to simply make it so Obi-Wan never tells him anythign concrete about his death. focus on Obi-Wan talking about Anakin's life. Make it seem as though Obi-Wan wants solely to concentrate on the Jedi, on Luke's father's lightsaber, not the dark times of the fall of the Jedi. Mention that Anakin and Obi-Wan were close friends, somehow including the "He was a pupil of mine" exchange. But avoid the line about Vader killing Anakin.

I believe it can be done, but I don't have much time to write it up this morning after work. Perhaps someone else could take a stab at the idea to see if it plays out well enough?
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#158336
Topic
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158336/action/topic#158336
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Originally posted by: InfoDroid<br
Originally posted by: TheDemonHunter
Just as a thought, if this is going to become a complete trilogy redo, someone might want to start taking notes to put together a "bible" of sorts for the new universe that's being created so good ideas don't become impossible because of other changes. A basic timeline of events and possible shots used to represent them perhaps.


Very good idea. But the ultimate authority on that would have to be Trooperman. It's probably time to start looking at this as a piece of a six-part saga, instead of an isolated thing. Because, as it has happened with other edits (like Darth Editous' ANH) as soon as everyone has SOTDS, they'll be clamouring for more. And you don't want to paint yourself into a corner, do you, TM?


Oh of course, I agree completely! But better to start ahead of time befoere the ideas become lost. That way if TM (or even someone else completely if he gets burned out and wants to pass it off) wants to work on further edits in this vein, the info is there to provide a cohesive vision. The lack of any cohesive vision is one of the things that most of us found bothersome about the PT. While Trooperman works out the details of this project, I don't think there's anything wrong with speculating on how his changes would have an effect on what would need to be shown in the other two prequels to make it all come together properly. And if we can keep track of everything now, it becomes easier later. Plan big in case you need it.

Just my opinion though.

That having been said, if SOTDS is the only prequel remade this way, it will still stand head and shoulders above all the others, simply because of the volume of work and the number of changes worked into it. So far this looks to be a tremendous achievement and it's only natural that people will be clamoring for more. Kudos to Trooperman for undertaking such a project, no matter the outcome.
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#158203
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Idea: Sifo Dyas removal from AOTC?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158203/action/topic#158203
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There's no need to resolve the matter of Master Sifo Dyas. Last time I checked, the Sith are all about deception, mystery, and misinformation. I like the idea that the Jedi can't get to the bottom of that one and that we have no answers. Besides, it was inferred, at least from my point of view, that Dooku/Tyrannus was partly responsible for the misdirection when Jango Fett named Tyrannus as his recruiter.

Give me mysteries. It doesn't all have to be spoon-fed to us. Let us be just as much in the dark about the whole truth as the Jedi and the Senate were.
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#158198
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158198/action/topic#158198
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Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
which is how it should have been done if Lucas' didn't want to stick with the dark side deteriation explanation that had been around for so long.

the slow deterioration was such a good plan, I wish he had stuck with it

I agree that this is the way it should have gone as well. While I feel that Lucas has the right to disregard whatever someone else has introduced in the EU, this idea of the deterioration of the physical body seems to be perfect when you consider the corruption that the Dark Side brings. Power, but at a cost.


Well its not just EU, that was the plan all the way up to the start of production on Ep3. Palpatine is clearly more disfigured at the end of EP2 then he is at the start of ep3. and even Ian Mcdiarmid described it as a slow decay, as did some of the Lucas people even for behind the scenes of Ep3, so this was a very last minute decision to make it an abrupt change.

and not for the better.


Gotcha. I've given up trying to keep track of what Lucas did and didn't plan because of all the changes we've seen to everything over the years. That would have been pretty damned cool though.
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#158194
Topic
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158194/action/topic#158194
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Just as a thought, if this is going to become a complete trilogy redo, someone might want to start taking notes to put together a "bible" of sorts for the new universe that's being created so good ideas don't become impossible because of other changes. A basic timeline of events and possible shots used to represent them perhaps.

These ideas are all flowing so freely and so well that I think it would be a shame to lose them.
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#158147
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The Skywalker Legacy (working title) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158147/action/topic#158147
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Okay, since the question has been asked, I'm taking a break for a few days to keep my eyes from buggin out of my head as I stare day after day at the screen in Photoshop. I'm painting Dooku out of one of the scenes, one frame at a time, and the toughest part will be maintaining some semblance of the action that takes place in the background behind Dooku in the far window to the outside. Vader will then be inserted in his place, giving us Vader (from ANH), Obi-Wan, and Anakin (both from ROTS) in the same four and a half second sequence. Not a lot of time, I know, but considering the learning curve involved, I need to take this slow and not screw it up.

I can only hope the end result of this entire scene will be worth the process I'm trying here. Depending on how well this works, I might use similar techniques for adding Vader into more sequences in Dooku's place. Wish me luck!
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#158145
Topic
Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158145/action/topic#158145
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Originally posted by: TroopermanBut if something were to happen and the discs wasn't out before May, a release before Labor Day is not only a given- it's inevitable. So it's coming soon, guys. I understand the frustration you must feel, reading all these "teasers" but having to wait for months on end for the finished project. I realize that most fan edits are whipped out in a much shorter time. But if you stick with me, I think the payoff will be more than even you who are following the thread are expecting.

In compiling a list of things I need to do and a timetable, I ran into another issue I had kind of forgotten about- Windu's saber, which was going to be blue for my movie. This is going to be time-consuming, and there'll be a learning curve as well.


This project will be well worth the wait, no matter how long it takes for us to see the final result. I've given up on my own self-imposed deadline for my project because of the "learning curve" you mentioned as well, and believe me, it can only make your project better in the end.

Best of luck on a most ambitious project!
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#156139
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/156139/action/topic#156139
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Originally posted by: Rebel Scumb
Wow, now that's a bold cut Rebel Scumb. While I do think it would go a long way toward preserving some of the mysteries and surprises of the OT, it leaves us with one very big continuity issue. Where does Obi-Wan get Anakin's saber to give Luke in ANH?

Well it doesn't perserve any of the surprises, we still see Anakin chared and burned get rescued by palpatine, and all the ensuing cyborgifcation. We can just assume he lost his limbs from the lava. He is climbing up the beach as per usual, all burned up when sidious arrives with the troopers to help him.

As for the saber, okay thats a bit of a reach, I still have the shot of Obi-wan picking it up off the ground, so presumably Anakin dropped it when he fell over the edge. Thats reaching a bit I know, but no more so then a lot of things Lucas has asked people to swallow from the prequels, and obviously if I had a shot of the saber falling from the tower to the ground where Obi-wan retrieves it I would use it.

But yeah, no secrets kept, sorry if I made it sound as though they were.


Ah, I understand now. I think this could still be the basis for a more mysterious reworking of things though. I have enough projects (DVD or otherwise) on my plate before I can consider another, but this might be a springboard to another one eventually.

Originally posted by: Commander Courage
Oooooo, I really like the implication of Sidious' true face being revealed. That's something I had a big issue with in RotS, Palpatine's disfigurement by force lightning. Can't say I agree with all of your editing decisions, but that one for sure is a good one. Of course the parallel of RotJ with Anakin considering his next move while watching the lightning is lost, but I really like Palpatine being a mask for Sidious the whole time (which is how it should have been done if Lucas' didn't want to stick with the dark side deteriation explanation that had been around for so long).


I agree that this is the way it should have gone as well. While I feel that Lucas has the right to disregard whatever someone else has introduced in the EU, this idea of the deterioration of the physical body seems to be perfect when you consider the corruption that the Dark Side brings. Power, but at a cost.
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#154378
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The Skywalker Legacy (working title) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/154378/action/topic#154378
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Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Hmm...I also have an Idea.
With hold putting the masking scene of DV from III to the end of ROTJ, when vader is dieing, or when hes being cremated.


I'm planning on using some cut of the masking scene/birth/rebirth scenes when Obi-Wan finally tells Luke the truth on Dagobah in the scene from ROTJ. Part of it will be shown with voiceovers. Some of it will be done via straight flashback scenes.
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#154177
Topic
The Skywalker Legacy (working title) (* unfinished project *)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/154177/action/topic#154177
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Slow and steady progress so far. Lots of cuts for the BigMigMaker to get what I want.

This is obviously the biggest undertaking I've ever gone for, so I've decided to take the advice of Rikter and others just to take my time, take plenty of breaks with other projects, and learn every bit of software that may help me along the way. I've also decided not to worry about the Fan Edit contest. If it's ready I'll enter it, but I'm not going to rush it and not have it the way I want it, just to get it entered. I really just want this to be right, I guess.

I've progressed through a lot of the easier stuff so far, taking the movie from the opening (new crawl not yet finished and inserted) all the way up to the BigMigMaker, which is being inserted into the conversation in Ben's home on Tatooine.

The original inspiration for a lot of this was the teaser for ROTS, and as a result, I decided to follow that vein for the description to Luke of the Jedi Knights. When Obi-Wan describes the Jedi to Luke, there's a flash to Jedi igniting their sabers on Geonosis from AOTC, then a cut to the Jedi in a circle in the arena, fighting off the battledroids. Then another cut to Obi-Wan leaping into the air to kick two battle droids in TPM on Naboo. That's followed by Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon battling the droids, until Obi-Wan's voiceover says "before the dark times" which shows the clone army as seen at the end of AOTC, same as it was used in the teaser. Unlike the teaser though, there's a flash and then back to Obi-Wan just as he says "before the Empire."

Following all of that will be the rest of the scene as Obi-Wan explains Anakin's death to Luke, which of course leads in to the BigMigMaker.

I'm spending time learning the limitations and abilities of the software available, so updates may not come quite so frequently, but rest assured, the project continues.
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#153201
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<strong>The &quot;ADigitalMan Special Editions&quot; DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/153201/action/topic#153201
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Using the subtitles button on the DVD player in the living room (my roommate's older Sony), it came up that there were two subtitle tracks, and I could toggle through them via the remote as the scene played, but only the regular dialogue appeared for the first track and there was nothing in the second track. Confused the hell out of me, as I've never had problems with his DVD player before -- we use it all the time when we watch movies together. Once I got an email about this problem, I put it into the DVD player in my room (a newer Sony) to check it out again and it was fine. Quite odd, to be sure. So I checked it again in his and once again, I saw nothing. Not a thing in the alternate sub track. Definitely some weirdness going on there, but it appears to be limited to his player.

Sorry for the false alarm. I guess I should have checked into it further before saying anything. Still, color me as one very confused Demon Hunter today.
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#152678
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***The &quot;Darth Editous&quot; Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially &quot;de-specialed&quot; DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/152678/action/topic#152678
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Wow. I just got done watching this movie and I'm in awe of everything that was done. Excellent, excellent work, Darth Editous. The only thing I missed seeing was the scene with Biggs, but I can understand the issues you had with the way that one was shown for the SE set. Otherwise, this is my favorite edit of ANH so far.

Great work!
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#152558
Topic
Info Wanted: &quot;The Story of Star Wars&quot; Bonus DVD at Walmart: Is It Worth It?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/152558/action/topic#152558
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Originally posted by: TR47
I wonder what marketing genius came up with the idea of putting the sticker on the CASES, instead of on the outside plastic wrapper.


Agreed. This DVD isn't that great to begin with, unless you're looking to fill more shelf space with Star Wars DVDs for the sake of "completing the set" (guilty as charged), so why would they ruin the freakin' case by putting a sticker right on it? Idiots.

Okay, my rant(s) on this DVD is over.
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#152555
Topic
The Skywalker Legacy (working title) (* unfinished project *)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/152555/action/topic#152555
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Thanks for the words of support! I admit up front though that this probably will not be the perfectly executed edit that we've come to expect from the resident gurus such as Darth Editous, ADigitalMan, OCP or MagnoliaFan (just to name a few off the top of my head). I can only hope I present something watchable and interesting for viewers.

Enough talk for now though. Time to dive into some editing.