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#236515
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Hyperspace: Yep, I Think that Something is DEFINITELY up for '07!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236515/action/topic#236515
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If this were Paramount or Universal, for example, it would be permissible to release multiple versions of the same film, due to their vast catalogue of movies.

However, such is not the case with Lucasfilm. What are we talking about, in terms of the company's body of work here? 8 films, really?

It's inexcusable. I realize we're talking Star Wars here, the very pinnacle of pop culture, but what is our breaking point as a fanbase? How many times can they go back to the well before we say, "Enough is enough." I thought that sending the SE discs from the upcoming set was foolhardy and pointless, but now I think I see the value of it. I'm packing them up like a plate of cookies and sending them back. In fact, maybe I'll ship all of my Star Wars crap from 1997 on back to LFL.

The fact of the matter is, Lucasfilm is aware of the rabid fan preservation community and this is their way of stemming the tide, which, as we all know, won't work.

This DVD release is a short term solution to a long term problem.
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#236231
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The Film Industry
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236231/action/topic#236231
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Well, Kucas is a bit of a different situation. He chose to remove himself from the stadard Hollywood machine because of the way Star Wars and he were personally treated. For someone who claims that he doesn't listen to critics, he sure does care about what they say.

Hitchcock is a great example, and I'm glad you brought him up, of someone who managed to find an ingenious way of maintaining final control. He would storyboard the shit out of everything, and seldom deviate from it. Essentially, like Spielberg, the film would already be edited in his mind before the first foof of film went through the camera.

This prevented the studio from jumping in and altering his "vision" because there was no footage shot that he didn't want. Pretty smart guy. Spielberg did exactly the same thing, more or less, and it wasn't until Schindler's List that he deviated from the storyboard.

Now, this is a bit of a double edged sword, especially in the case of Lucas. Professional editors are trained to tell a story in 120 minutes or so, in the most effective and efficient way. They know what works - and then you get some director coming in and messing around with it. It flops or doesn't work, and the editing gets blamed. It must have sucked to be Ben Burtt from 1999-2004.

These days, anyone can shoot a film. Mini-DV cameras are so damn cheap now, and most PC's or MACS can run high end editing software. Armed with a good script and some decent actors and someone who knows a little craft, there's nothing stopping someone from producing a really great flick this way. It's basically the way Rodridguez (sp?), Linklater and even Tarantino started in the 90's.

No one is ever going to produce Armageddon 2 - The Return Of The Rock on a $500 budget, but damnit anything is possible with the right amount of skill and ambition.

EDIT - I realize I spelled Lucas wrong - then I looked at it and kept it 'cause it was funny.
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#236134
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Was there an ESB arcade game?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236134/action/topic#236134
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Hmm...how hard could it possibly be to make a ROTJ vector game?

Speeder bike antennae, a couple of trees, some digitized Ewok chatter and good times result.

Also, am I the only one who wants Sega to port over the Star Wars Trilogy arcade game to consoles? The 360 has to be capable of running it - you know, the one which let you pick the film and then you went through the key parts ie: Death Star, Hoth, Endor and then had a 1st person battle with Vader...that was a frigging quarter muncher, I tell you.

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#236130
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Was there an ESB arcade game?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236130/action/topic#236130
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You bet your vectorized ass there was an ESB arcade game!

It was essentially the same game as the vector Star Wars game, only you flew a snowspeeder on Hoth, defeating AT-AT's and chicken walkers (yes, I'm old school) and the Falcon through the asteroid field.

To my knowlege, the game only was released in a standup cabinet, unlike the enclosed cockpit of the Star Wars game (which was later on also manufactured as a standup).

You can still find the ESB cabinet in older arcades, or places like bowling alleys and other such places.

I'm sure if you look around this game has been ported to MAME - in fact, I could be wrong, but like the Star Wars game I believe it was released in different versions for the PC or consoles - essentially an arcade port instead of the classic 2600 game. Incidentally, the 2600 game was used at many K-Mart's and Woolworth's around the World to demo the Atari, for it's groundbreaking graphics.

Keep an eye out for the new and improved http://www.temusb.com/ which is under renovation, but offered up loads of information on all Star Wars games, and where to find ports and emu's.
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#235851
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Star Wars film versions and best DVD sources
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235851/action/topic#235851
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Zion - I wanted your version of ROTS so bad. I searched everywhere for it before the Official DVD, and even tried my hand at newsgroups but could never nail it down.

So, for what it's worth, I'm probably one of many who were impressed by the screenies and wanted it, but could never get it.

Now, I guess it's the closest thing at the best possible quality of the theatrical version, what with the original scene transition etc...
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#235830
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Info Wanted: anyone doing an AOTC - IMAX Edit (?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235830/action/topic#235830
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Found another list on MF, compliments of Fatboy Roberts...

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* The first scene with Amidala, Organa, Yoda et al in Palpy's office is gone.

*The portion where Jar Jar greets Obi and Anakin at the elevator up through the "awkward reintroduction" of Anakin to Padme was removed. The scene starts with Obi/Ani talking about how they're going to find the person responsible, etc.

*After Anakin makes kouhoun sushi and Obi leaps out the window, the end of the scene where Dorme' asks Padme if she's alright was trimmed off.

*A minor trim: the part where the assasin droid (to which Obi-Wan is clinging) tries to scrape Obi against the building was removed.

*The rest of the Coruscant chase remains intact

*In Padme's quarters, a minor trim of Anakin playing with the floating ball and (I think) the part where he says he's ready for the trials.

*The discussion between Obi-Wan, Mace and the floaty Yoda was removed.

*On the train, the tearful goodbye of Dorme was trimmed out of the rest of the scene

*The library scene was completely removed.

*When Anakin and Padme arrive at the Naboo Spa and Resort Island, there are quite a few minor trims - the part about "here, everything is soft and smooth" to the hand touch and back rub was clipped out.

*As far as the rest of the Naboo scenes go, the only ones that were left in were the dinner table scene and a much abbreviated fireplace scene. The "I'm haunted by the kiss you never should have given me" is one of the exorcised lines. No "sound of music", no picnic and no Shaak-riding.

*On Kamino, the portion of the scene where he heads back out to his ship to have R4 send a message back to Coruscant was trimmed out.

*Boba's firing of the Slave I cannons was trimmed out of the fight

*The Anakin "a sheet, a dream, a moan" - scene is gone. It goes straight to Anakin in his meditative "Vader-esque" pose on the balcony.

*On Tatooine, 3POs introduction of Anakin/Padme to Owen/Beru was cut

*In the Confession scene, the beginning part in which Anakin comments about "the shifter broke. Life seems so much simpler when you're fixing things," was cut. NOTE: The ending of the Confession scene is the original ending (ie. without Padme's "...is to be human" line).

*Dooku's entrance into Obi-Wan's floating cell was trimmed off, as was the end portion about "it might be difficult to secure your release".

*The scene in Palpy's ofc where he manipulates Jar Jar to consider making the "emergency powers" motion in the Senate was removed completely.

*Yoda and Mace's conversation where Mace states that their abilities to use the Force are diminished was cut out.

*On Geonosis, there is portion of the scene after Ani/Padme exit the ship, and R2 wants to do the same. The part where C3PO and R2 argue, and 3PO says that he knows all about humans was trimmed off.

*Factory scene was shortened by numerous quick cuts and edits. A couple of the cuts we caught were the shots where C3PO hanging by his fingertips and the 1st "teaser" of molten metal where you see the cannister iris open and drop a load, only to find out that it wasn't Padme's container.

*The final battle, as far as we could tell, is completely intact

*A note: not a cut, but a switch: after Padme falls out of the transport and the trooper arrives to help her, it is the version where she grunts and just says "Uh-huh," when he asks her if she's alright.

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That's about it, guys. So Padme did say "Uh-huh"in the IMAX cut. Awesome.
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#235818
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Info Wanted: anyone doing an AOTC - IMAX Edit (?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235818/action/topic#235818
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Some do - like the Cinesphere at Ontario Place in Toronto. They tend (like I said above) to show things like 'The Matrix' blown up from a 35mm print, rather than an actual formatted IMAX film.

So, to arrange a screening of the correct IMAX cut of AOTC would be night on impossible, I would imagine.

The best possible case scenario would be to get ahold of either someone who was associated with editing the film down, or finding someone who saw it a bunch of times and can recollect the alterations.

Then, as Hal said, he can create an edit "in the spirit" of the IMAX cut...
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#235434
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235434/action/topic#235434
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FWIW, casualimp, I remember Lucas discussing the colour palette of the OT once, in some documentary.

He said that EPIV was all about earth tones, your browns and grays etc, EPV was about metal and tech, so white, black and silver, and EPVI was all about a return to organics, hence the Ewoks beating the Empire, with a lush pallette of greens and browns.

When you think about it, kind of makes sense. I'm not sure if the Prequels were given this much artistic thought, but there it is...
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#235015
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235015/action/topic#235015
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Been playing a lot of Dead Rising on the 360 and Dawn of Sorrows on my DS-Lite.

Picked up Kameo for the 360 today ($30!) and was pleasantly surprised. It was one of those launch titles that I was sitting on the fence about, and seeing as how Rare bungled PDZ I wasn't too enthusiastic about Kameo - but it's a rush.

I'd say it's like a cross between Banjo-Kazooie and Zelda 64. Sweet graphics too.
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#234580
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Audience reaction to the reveal?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234580/action/topic#234580
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I was there in 1980. It was one of the most exciting "events" of my life so far, and it was pretty amazing to be watching a new film with all of the characters from Star Wars.

Back then, sequels weren't formulaic, so to see the heroes losing, especially after such a triumphic victory in Star Wars, was far out.

Then, towards the end of the film, was this big reveal. I was only 6 years old, but I clearly remember the audience gasping, and there was silence - in a Star Wars sequel. Amazing.

I remember thinking, "Vader is the bad guy, he's a liar and just trying to trick Luke into following him." Made sense at the time.

See, back then we didn't read too much into the film(s). They were simple, enjoyable stories, not dissected in minutae on the internet...I seriously believe that if the Prequels came out before the age of mass communication, they'd be a lot more enjoyable. People's perceptions tend to influence our own - so much so that our opinion becomes that of the masses.

It was a simpler time, and man oh man was it fun...
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#234182
Topic
Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234182/action/topic#234182
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Sorry, I wanted to see what this looked like in 3D, I hope you don't mind. I think Vader might be a little on the Dark Side *rim shot*
'cause his saber all but dissappears. Maybe bring him back in a bit and throw a drop shadow on the text, if there isn't on already.

Keep it up - I think it looks pretty sharp, man.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2796/casualimp3dau7.jpg

EDIT - seems the darkness of Vader is due to the shadow of the 3D image...nevermind. Look great.
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#233856
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/233856/action/topic#233856
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@ Casualimp:

Personally, I think you could be on to some neat looking covers.

What I would do is this:

1) Keep the film titles to the spine. Remove the titles on the front. The posters are iconic enough to identify which film it is.
2) Frame the front posters somehow. Maybe a neutral colour for the series, or a colour to identify each film.

You're on to something though.