ChainsawAsh said:It's pretty good - kinda has a pretentious-film-school-movie vibe to it, but that might be because I'm currently in film school and see a lot of pretentious B.S., so I immediately throw non-linear, stylized shorts into that category.
But isn't it a linear chase film? Just really, really, stylized. (one line of real dialog if I recall, but it has been years)
Ripplin said:Has anyone ever seen the student film version of THX? Is that even possible? (or was it possible in the past?) Just curious.
I've seem it. It's awesome. Compelling and enthralling, really making clear what Lucas means when he talks about purely visual storytelling. One of my film classes in college showed it.
PSYCHO_DAYV said:KIRSTIN DUNST HAS SIGNED ON TO REPRISE THE ROLE OF MJ IN THE NEXT SPIDER-MAN MOVIE.
Why are you always yelling?
Bingowings said:Perhaps someone should do the reverse of the Hayden insert at put Seb Shaw's ghost into Hayden's costume.
That's actually a pretty cool idea. One of my favorites so far.
It's right up there with Anakin losing his eyebrows as a very subtle but effective way to visually tie the two actors.
James teh OG said:- The Jedis just called them "apprentices", not "padawans". And they don't have to wear 80's rat tails.
- We cut out that "youngling" crap and just say "Anakin killed the children". That at least elicits an inherent human emotional response.
- General Grievous kicks ass like he did in Gennedy's "Clone Wars" shorts.
The real problem with the prequal were a couple of word choices. I agree. Major improvement already.
And I'd love to see Greivous as a stone-cold, silent, stalking, killing-machine with no character except being 'badass' like the Terminator. Or Darth Maul. Luca$h totally blew that one by giving him a personality and a voice.
skyjedi2005 said:
Didn't they knight Elton John?
Seriosly. Some pop singer gets it before the most prolific film actor of ALL TIME... who was also British Secret Intelligence during the war, and I beleive he assassinated Hitler. The man's a treasure dammit.
skyjedi2005 said:Does Raimi still have what it takes?
The real question is does he slavishly ape the style of low budget, intentionally cheesy, shock-tactics guerilla filmmaking he did 20 years ago in an effort to please the small but diehard fans of those films, or does he dive into it with the passion of a highly successful, considerably more mature filmmaker, with a new and contrasting skill set?
About freakin time. Lee is a treasure.
skyjedi2005 said:Except the words need not be spoken. Artists in the past and artists in the future will sell their quote "artist soul" to get rich and make a buck.
The example is that the original trilogy was compelling and moving as a human story as well as an exciting piece of popcorn sci fi action/space fantasy entertainment.
The prequels were almost souless. Full of over the top bad humor, wooden pathetic acting, bad writing and directing. And almost nothing more than special effects reels to shop to other studios on what ILM can do with CGI.
The guy who hated the entire corporate idea and ideal who refused to take over his fathers business because he didn't want to become like him became the corporation. The little guy underdog artist who worked for a small personal system of making small films on your own terms outside hollywood became the new hollywood along with Spielberg. He eventually betrayed the very ideals he and Coppola had at Zoetrope in the 60's.
The entire problem is Lucas started out like one of the rebels from the rebel Alliance and became the new galactic empire . Started out as luke and became more like vader. The guy fighting the man became the man.
It is even more ironic if you watch and realize his older films are all about escaping the control of the "machine" and machine men. To hold onto ones own humanity.
Cgi made lucas films lifeless and sterile.
His success was his own undoing as ironic as that sounds.
He made better films under budgetary constraints. Once he had the money that he could do anything his films were episodes 1-3 of the prequels. Also if you no longer have people telling you their honest opinion of a bad idea and replacing writers and artists and producers and directors with sense with corporate yes men.
You seem to be mixing two different ideas.
1. The Prequels were dissapointing and you don't like CGI. Gotcha. I agree.
2. Lucas somehow betrayed his ideals. This I disagree with.
The man LOVES CGI. He uses tons of it, and no one can tell him to do otherwise because he gets to make the exact films he wants. He didn't take over his father's business, he created his own filmmaking empire. He never compormised a damn thing. The entire entertainment world is actually kinda his bitch now. Look how Fox was forced to pony up the rights to "Star Wars" to him in exchange for distribution rights to the PT.
If you can name one ideal Lucas has espoused that he's apparently betrayed so that 'the man' would give him money, I'd be interested to hear it. But from day one it seems Lucas was a man interested in visual filmmaking, admittedly not interested in characters, and desperate to expand what could be achieved in filmmaking. That seems to be what he's done.
I got one too. I'm nervous she thinks that's a pic of me in my avatar, and she might not be into the real me! Whatever will I do!?!
skyjedi2005 said:I find it nice to see Lucas the genious filmaker once again. The man responsible for star wars. This is the lucas i admire and respect before he was consumed by cgi. Ironic that he talks about money men should not make decisions over art. lol.
The Lucas who was determined to make films outside of hollywood. Who fought the big money men and corporations became the corporation.
Lucas succeeded in spades. He never has to answer to any moneyman. He makes the films he wants exactly how he wants them outside of Hollywood. He fought the moneymen and won. He even owns the rights to "Star Wars" now, which Fox had for years. He wanted to push the boundaries of what can be achieved on film, and he has succeeded in blowing those boundaries completely away.
If he said "I hope I make compelling character based drama and never ever err on the side of too much comic relief of action" then we could all point and laugh, but I don't think that's ever been his goal.
C3PX said:TheBoost said:I've spent all morning watching those films of his on YouTube. I want desperately to by this man a beer... or at least a big hello kitty plush doll, whichever he prefers.
That was the most awesome thing I have heard anybody say in a very long time. I'd like to buy him a hello kitty doll or two myself.
Watching them on youtube? I take it you don't have the DVDs? Bet you could talk someone into sending you a set. I get the impression you live in PAL land? I live in NTSC land and have the NTSC discs, otherwise I'd be more than happy to fire a set your way. Well worth having around.
I live in the good old US of A... where we beleive in freedom, all currency being the same size and color, and NTSC DVD's thank you very much.
USA! USA! USA!
Girl gets a big plush doll, she hugs and kisses... the doll.
I'm just sayin'.
Just watched "Returning to Jedi' on youtube. Excellent documentary.
It got me thinking about how small ROTJ felt, considering its the huge conclusion. It seems that all these nifty things were shot, but not used.
-Madine's death.
-A female rebel pilot
-Three Pruneface aliens (I totally had that toy) in the Rebellion
-The infamous sandstorm.
I doubt the elements are available to add these, but this additions, probably less than 2 min of screentime, might have made the film feel much more expansive.
C3PX said:I love Jambe Davdar; he is greatness. I remember when he used to have popularity somewhat akin to adywan, now he is all but forgotten... Been a while since I have Returning to Jedi, watching that youtube clip of it has me interested in giving it a rewatch.
I've spent all morning watching those films of his on YouTube. I want desperately to by this man a beer... or at least a big hello kitty plush doll, whichever he prefers.
sean wookie said:She is going away soon. Should I get her a big Hello Kitty plush for when she comes back? Though I don't want to seem desperate.
Fate is giving you a chance to be super player and take it to the next level. When she gets back, give her the serious eyes and tell her that you missed her more than you thought you would. This is hauntingly ambiguous yet romantic. Then give her the rose previously mentioned.
I used a similar strategem to turn this one girl I was 'hangning out with' into my girlfriend, and later, my wife.
Plush toys are for sick children and dates to the carnival. Go for the red rose. ;)
sean wookie said:Honestly, I really don't she really is the type to initiate a kiss. She is always so shy. She also had a lot more cleavage this time than last.
Then the game is still afoot!
Be bold. Slip an arm on her shoulder. Stand slightly closer than normal. Brush her hair out of her eyes. Act with the expectation of familiarity, and unless she activly rejects it, keep it up. It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission. Be a Han, not a Luke. She's yours for the taking.
Lucas seems to justify alot with "That's the way it was supposed to be."
Usually I don't buy it, and I think the majority of us here are of the same mind.
BUT... what if tomorrow, ol' GL came out with some kind of undeniable proof from 1972 that the way the Star Wars Saga is now is precisely how he intended. Say, he has an old reel of film of him talking to Copola, and he lays out the six film plots, including Jar Jar, Han shooting first, Anakin building 3PO, Jabba in Episode 1, and everything exactly like it is now in the SE and the PT.
Would this change your opinion of anything?
Actually, Michael Jackson left a VHS version of the Lost Cut at my house on accident when he came in to use the bathroom.
Wel... he didn't. But his SISTER did.
sean wookie said:
Though she wanted to pay and I of course wouldn't let her pay.
If you're cool being pals and hanging out with no kissy-face or more, more power to you. But if that's the case, you can't do stuff like this anymore.
Vaderisnothayden said:TheBoost said:If Glass was the best actor on the show (debatable), he was still a minor, supporting character. Christopher Lee can act the pants off anyone else in the PT, but Dooku isnt the focus of the show.
Glass was the best actor on the show, therefore the intelligent thing to do would be to give him more screen time, not keep in him in the background and then, come the movie, give him hardly any screen time and then kill him off.
Because shows about aging priests wandering around space making obscure refrences to their possibly shady past, but otherwise being generally fatherly and pleasent make for such high ratings and hit movies. Who likes rogueish space captains, hunted fugitives, or sassy hot women? We could see the adventures of Book strolling around and giving people kindly advice!
rcb said:u know, if we even discovered hyperspace and used it, according to einstein, when u reached the nearest star, u could age maybe five minutes depending on how fast ur going. however, everyone on earth would age hundreds of years when u only age five minutes. i don't get the logic behind that, but its interesting to think about.
Yeah, but that's using physics as we understand them, which needs to be completely tossed out the windee if things like Hyperspace, Warp, Jump points, or Stargates get into the mix.
The only space-opera I know that really dealt with the time compression of near-light speed travel was Scott Westerfeld's, "The Risen Empire." All and all, that was the most 'hard science fiction' space opera style story I've ever read.
miker71 said:It's space opera, not Star Trek.
Not that "warp drive" has any more valid science behind it.
I coined a newterm.
Bootqual.
This category, which so far contains only the new "Star Trek" is when a total franchise re-boot disguises itself as a prequal in an effort to not alienate the faithful.
Not to be confused with a Seaquoot, like the "Friday the 13th" that just came out, that disguised itself as a reboot to hide that is was just as tired and cliche as the last 12 sequals.
I like the new show.
This format is a common format for Cartoon Network shows. The Justice League shows all did the same thing, bare-bones episode disks, followed later by the whole season.