TheBoogeyman1023

My two cents on changes for Version 2…

Episode 13 - JEDHA

• Bor Gullet. It doesn’t really make sense why Bodhi doesn’t remember who he is without these scenes.
• One shot of Tarkin is missing the deep fake in the first scene. This shot is missing from Shamook’s folder though, so might not be able to do anything about it.
• Krennic commenting on the death star blast, “Oh it’s beautiful.”

Episode 14 - STARDUST

• The Mustafar scene should go back in. But with this superior audio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmRRzpJDDv4
  I think it better sets the stage for Vader showing up later.

Episode 15 - ROGUE ONE

• I don’t think the ending should be a post credit scene. Your mix made the hallway scene so much more terrifying but its relegated to after the credits? NAH! Get that shit back where it belongs lol.

Otherwise, I thought a lot of the music stuff was great. The ending of 14 & 15 in particular are really effective with the Andor theme.

I think it’s going to be a much longer wait than I initially anticipated for Seasons 1-3. The source I mentioned who has the full quality HDTV broadcast rips is going through some personal things.

In the mean time, I’ve gotten the rest of the double episodes completed: Season 4 & 5 finales and the Season 6 premiere.

I’m putting together a spreadsheet with links to the completed projects. This will make sharing easier.
People can DM me and I’ll share the spreadsheet when it’s ready.

SIDE QUESTS:
I’m considering adding the Season 5 premiere to my list, which to my knowledge only had 1 minor change. The placement of the first commercial break and opening credits. But I’ll need to secure a new Blu-ray reader/burner to get the episode off the disc.

And I may also do a pass on the pilot but I would need a reference to the 2 hour broadcast version. If anyone has that and would be willing to share, that would be a big help. It will also depend on whether or not this AI tool I’ve been messing with can seamlessly remove the credits off the footage from Pilot, Part 2.

This is excellent. I knew in the right hands, the 2013 blu-ray was pretty much definitive. It’s an excellent transfer. But it needed the mono audio and to ditch that revisionist modern color grade. Truly great work.

This is just what I was looking for. Would love a link please and thank you!

Would greatly appreciate a link to these. Thanks!

That guy with no name said:

TheBoogeyman1023 said:
That’s bizarre. I wonder if Disney is sitting on another edition they plan to roll out in the future. Maybe 50th anniversary? It’s only a few years away. I can’t imagine they would do a theater only regrade.

I’d love to belive there doing another edition. but restoration? unlikely. Remember Disney/lucasfilm sat on the 4K restoration for 8 years! and technically didn’t even have 4k in mind when they originally scanned it in 2012. It’s as if 4k blu-rays becoming popular was just lucky for Disney. so for them to go out of their way to do another restoration is unlikely.

I never said restoration. I don’t have that much hope lol. I was thinking more along the lines of them reusing the 2012 scans with a shiny new coat of paint.

adywan said:

Just got back from seeing Episode 4 at the cinema. It was the “Maclunky” 2020 version but, f**k me, it looked and sounded gorgeous. This is NOT the same grade that is on the blu-rays/ Disney+. the colours for about 90% of the movie looked great. Not the flat/ sepeia looking grade we have on the official physical media releases. Skin tones looked great, the highlights were punchy and not suffering with the flat highs of the blu-rays. The Tavtive IV corridors looked beautiful. Even the static grain problem that the latest blu-rays suffer with wasn’t noticeable at all. On thing however is that most of the special edition additions ( especially mos eisley) looked horrendously bad. Not just because they were suing 90’s CG tech, but they looked low res compared to the rest of the film. Blurry/ soft and a few shots didn’t even look HD.

There seemed to be some alterations in the sound mix too. Sound effects that aren’t present on the blu-ray mix. The music was much more prominent, a bit too much in places.

They’ve got a movie marathon on sunday starting with rogue one followed by eps 4, 5 & 6. Can’t go though because its my bloody wedding anniversary. ARGHHHH. Can’t really sit in a cinema the whole day. But luckily they are showing ep 5 next tuesday evening and then the following week ep 6, so i’ll be able to check them out. If the other two films look as good as Ep4 did then, why the hell do the blu-rays look so bad? If they looked that good then it would have saved me years of work regrading them.

That’s bizarre. I wonder if Disney is sitting on another edition they plan to roll out in the future. Maybe 50th anniversary? It’s only a few years away. I can’t imagine they would do a theater only regrade.

Nah those are trash. I know there’s some DVR enthusiast out there somewhere who has exactly what I need saved and copied in full quality. Just need them to see this lol

Hello!

If you stumbled onto this thread then you already know, the original feature-length episodes of LOST currently streaming on Netflix and Hulu, are no longer feature length. They’ve all been cut in half, scenes were rearranged and small moments were cut for time. You would think this problem is exclusive to streaming, but unfortunately the Season 1-3 finales are also affected on the official Blu-rays.

In the case of the Season 3 finale, I’ve been chasing the original edit since the summer of 2007. My dad brought home the DVD and I quickly discovered the episode had been altered.

In the years since, I’ve done on again/off again edits to restore that episode to its original glory. But I was never 100% happy with the results. That’s where this all began. The goal of this project is to have 1080p HD versions of some of the best episodes of the show readily available to all.

In the past 2 years, I’ve made contact with another user on this site who may be the answer to finally finishing this project once and for all. The bad news, he’s been quite busy with other projects of his own. It could be some time before I’m able to complete these properly.

For now, this project is ON HOLD.

Matt.F said:

I watched the Kai Patterson edit of Kenobi yesterday, and that also boasts some new FX work like PixelJoker.

With a bit of distance since the release of Kenobi I’d say that even when tightened up by a fan editor and with many of the clunkiest moments removed, what you’re left with is still… somewhat mid. I want to love it, but it just never really sparks into life, and I’m not sure that tweaking a few visual fx can change that.

This. Everything Pixel is doing will be a major improvement but it will still be a 5/10 at the end of the day. You can’t polish a turd lol

Yikes. That official UHD is ASS. Why are all of Peter Jackson’s films in 4K just over sharpened garbage? These weren’t throwaway releases. This and LOTR were huge films in the early 2000s. Shame on the studios for not properly remastering them for 4K.

Your work looks great!

Yikes. That official UHD is ASS. Why are all of Peter Jackson’s films in 4K just over sharpened garbage? These weren’t throwaway releases. This and LOTR were huge films in the early 2000s. Shame on the studios for not properly remastering them for 4K.

Your work looks great!

Maybe there’s a future 8K Collector’s Set where they rescan and clean up all the deleted scenes. If Disney steps aside and lets another company like Criterion or Arrow take a crack at it.

It’s not gonna happen. Lucasfilm didn’t bother to clean up the deleted scenes

Wow! This is nuts. I’m so glad people like you exist in this community. Absolutely insane level of detail.

Here’s a sample you can download that shows a before and after comparison that will give a better example of what i mean by all of this:

https://mega.nz/file/aFtCgRjT#1JfzlVrRnPYYDmISy1rcrAEl4NOzDh9Q_ASjvKJ7Cqs

Wow. The colors on that 35mm are so much better than the official home release.

MonkeyLizard10 said:

towne32 said:

Some, like this guy on movie-censorship, say the DVD was produced from the digital theatrical master. I’d really like to find more information written before the DVD was released, though, to be certain. Padme’s awful “Yes” line had to have been a later fix, after reviewers mocked it, right? If nothing else, there would have been people arguing and defending the film as they did not witness it with “yes”.

Here is something weird:

Thanks to user Phase3 for spotting a weird teal rectangle going across part of the top upper left of a transition between scenes at around the 28m mark I was then able to find the 35mm frame and note that the weird rectangle was NOT there in the original 35mm theatrical release.

This weird teal rectangle has been on all versions of AOTC going back to the UK and german HDTV broadcasts that we have caps of as well as the initial DVD (and thus very likely initial VHS) release and it has been on all releases since, all the blu-rays and the new UHD and D+. But it is not on the 35mm. It would be easy to imagine the other way around. Some IN used for a print had something dropped across the scanner a bit for a few frames and so any print from that has the blob and then everything from other IN and the digital master does not. But in this case it is like more the opposite.

So potential proof of muddling around with things post theatrical. Almost looks like teal power windows brush hah. I wonder what the story with it is.

It is not the most momentous difference ever hah! And certainly not really the sort of ‘change’ you’d expect at all, looks more like a weird mistake of some sort that apparently got backed in super early post-theatrical (perhaps even for the digital theatrical?) and has been there for at least the whole HDTV through UHD release.

Also, assuming it was not there in the digital theatrical then it also proves that the UHD was also sourced from the same modified for home versions as all the rest and not a going back to an original digital master or anything (again, assuming it was not there in the digital theatrical and I doubt anyone would possibly remember that or have even noticed it if it was there).

And with the UHD also seeming to lack some of the wide gamut insane teals/greenblues found on the 35mm and the odd trace teal blue “A long time ago…” intro text even though UHD CAN show those colors it seems like the early home revisions might have accidentally (?) been done in REC709 and then they were stuck with that gamut unless they were to go back and re-do all the little changes for home??

Here is a snap that Phse3 made of one of the home versions:

And here is the original 35mm:

So what the what is this weird blue blob??:

That’s awesome. Is Poita active under a different username or does he just not use this site anymore?

Maybe it’s just the gif, but the shot of Luke turning his head around while R2 gets shot looks like maybe a frame or two is off in the rotoscoping around Luke’s helmet. There’s like a shadow or a bump or something. Might be worth taking a look at?

Everything else looks great. I’ve been patiently waiting to rewatch the original trilogy for Revisited and Harmy Despecialized 3.0 lol

If anyone who has it already wants to DM the Rars to me, I’ll put it all together and share a link from my paid Google Drive. Should avoid the issue with download limits. Unless that’s not the problem? Idk how Hal9000 does it, but I’ve never gotten that download limit message from his GDrive SW stuff.

Google Drive all day everyday.

It always bugged me how A New Hope sounded so much older than Empire and Jedi. This is really promising tech. Exciting times for Fan Editors.

I wonder if the AI would be good enough to replace all of his lines for Empire. That Recording is so half assed.

I’ve heard some really impressive stuff on discord.

I’ve always loved the Luke & Leia track John Williams composed for ROTJ and it’s not really featured in the movie at all. Only the end credits if I remember correctly.

sydcho said:

Is there any way I can have the link?

Links are down currently. I’m working on a Version 2. Making several audio and video improvements.

Work on the project has stopped at the moment because I’m currently waiting on a new lead that might have 720p broadcast sources for all 3 finales.

I’ll report back on here once things get moving again.

MonkeyLizard10 said:

I probably have the episodes recorded OTA to one of my TV recording HDs somewhere (or maybe burned onto a data DVD). If you still need any of that stuff, tell me and I will keep it in mind as I organize things if I come across them.
I think I got my HDTV recorder for my PC as far back as 2004, I know I have some rare HD footage of the 2004 games. NBC actually ran their HD OTA broadcasts with way less commercials and a lot more coverage than their OTA analog broadcast then, I guess HD was so rare then, they didn’t mind any loss of commercial fees. Anyway so I had to have started recording some HD stuff OTA at least as far back as summer of 2004.

PM sent. This would be awesome!