TheAlaskanSandman

IlFanEditore said:

I’d LOVE to see your version of the original triloy.

I keep debating it, well see though. I hate to focus or think about steps M and N when im on steps C and D though. Dont want to get ahead of myself and lose focus on the target goal. I have enough distractions with work, life, and art jobs but its def in the back of my head. I have a couple small scenes to help some other people out with their edits too and must prioritize things in order. (Probably wont help people with too much tho fyi before anyone asks 😃 ) Maybe ill do a small scene at some point just to see what it would look like. Maybe just the intro attack of ANH.

I dont know how i would top Adywan though at somethings. I really wish he was doing his in 1080p, then i could just touch up his a little. Looking forward to seeing what he pulls off for ROTJ

CMMAP said:

Damn, that is awesome. You’re a welcome addition to this community. How long you’ve been working in the digital art segment?

Thank you! Only as long as i’ve been editing these, but there was a version before the one i posted just for the Machete Cut in 720p. By comparison, they look terrible. I have experience in art, photography, and some digital art with adobe photoshop. Learning the vfx stuff has been a learning curve. Theres so many different things to learn and continue to learn to improve and make things look better. Mostly just a lot of time and patients but the art background probably helps some. That too tho is just time and patients. All things can be learned and done by us all is my feeling. Adywan was definitely a big inspiration though.

SparkySywer said:

thebluefrog said:

Man, what schools did you guys go to where you only had one teacher for 12 years?

That’s pretty reasonable for a master/apprentice relationship. Not to mention, the prequels making the Jedi start their training as toddlers is kinda ridiculous, training for 12 years is definitely not what they had in mind during the OT.

Besides, the prequels making the Jedi more of a bureaucracy than a creed muddies this a lot. In the OT, what it means to be an apprentice taught by a Jedi master is very different to how it’s depicted in the PT.

All these issues are probably well beyond the scope of a fanedit, but still. This is definitely a contradiction between the OT and PT.

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Leia being Luke’s brother at all, snip.

I mostly agree, except for this being the motive for Luke breaking and attacking Vader to the point of almost losing himself. If there was a way to change Vaders dialogue in that scene then it would all work. Something else that Vader could say or use against Luke to provoke him. Maybe a threat towards his friends, lamenting their soon to be demise, or capture and torture then death. Something. Any good Vader impersonators on here?

I tried this in an old edit in like, 2016. I had my friend voice Vader saying something about how his friends were probably all going to die horrible deaths if he continued to hide, inaction would basically guarantee it. Would he allow his friends to die like that? (Never!)

I don’t know. Looking back I’m not sure if it works, because Luke’s being more rational in that version instead of instinctively going apeshit and cutting Vader’s hand off, kind of ruining the next moment where he notices himself becoming more like Vader because of that. My friend’s VO was unconvincing, anyway, so I never ended up using it.

I like the idea of Yoda not being in the prequels at all personally. Then when you meet him in the OT, he’s a jedi yea, but of a long begotten age. More pure.

SparkySywer said:

A lot of the compositing looks better than the compositing in the original movie. Very well done!

Thank you! Im really hoping i can isolate the cgi characters and stuff to improve their compositing into the scenes along with any new elements im including. Some of this like the optical flares is stuff i always planned to get done, but took me a while to get all the new software i wanted. Really want this not to scream fan edit

Will try and get a new trailer up soon, just been super busy with art jobs and day job and life. Here are some screen grabs of some of the work going on. Some supercomp with Red Giant on most of these, creating lightwraps, haze, lightrays, etc. Putting in new lens/optical flares with Video Copilots Optical Flares. Dooku de-aged, de-wrinkled, and lightwrapped to fit his scene. Putting in video scan lines into monitors and binoculars. Changed the sky on Temple walk up to show city light glow in the sky, with no stars visible. To replicate living in a big city and light pollution. Quigon in Theed got heat blurs behind the fire, flicker, glow, etc to look more acurate. And a quick look at a Broom boy test.
The supercomp is cool and helps a lot in compositing along with speeding things up. Though to do it, i need objects separated from each other which means more rotobrushing/rotoscoping. So speeds up somethings but adds more work in other ways, the results i think are worth it though. I consider every critique and want to take my time to make these look the best that they can and should look. Once again, ill try and get a trailer up soon to see much of this in motion.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Leia being Luke’s brother at all, snip.

I mostly agree, except for this being the motive for Luke breaking and attacking Vader to the point of almost losing himself. If there was a way to change Vaders dialogue in that scene then it would all work. Something else that Vader could say or use against Luke to provoke him. Maybe a threat towards his friends, lamenting their soon to be demise, or capture and torture then death. Something. Any good Vader impersonators on here?

thebluefrog said:

Man, what schools did you guys go to where you only had one teacher for 12 years?

Literally my thoughts lol Atoc already explains that Yoda trains all the younglings. On top of that, Anakin is seen taking lessons from Yoda in ROTS. Plus Mace, and Obiwan consult Yoda a lot.

Plus, the line in the OT is also coming from the guy that said Vader betrayed and murdered Anakin. He’s old, he plays fast and loose with history since he can’t remember most of it. “Droid? I dont seem to remember owning any droids.”… Pretty sure i would recognize my friends droid when i can remember what car they had or phone.

He literally lets Luke call his sister pretty and lust after her enough to want to go save her, while never giving Luke the more important info to get Luke to go save her. Like, you know, shes really Lukes sister. Reason enough to go save her. Like, hey kid, your dads a psycho and is about to kill your long lost sister. This is wayyyy more important than your uncles farm.

If you were to snip anything, i think its easier to nip the OT than the prequels. Leia knowing her mother, snip. Leia kissing her brother twice, snip. Luke competing with Han in ANH for Leia, snip. Han competing with Luke in ROTJ, snip Obiwan training with Yoda, snip.

JakeRyan17 said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Rey kills Palpatine just like he wanted and told her his plan was. Everything plays out as is, then at the last scene when she says Skywalker, her eyes flash Sith and you here Palpatines laugh. Roll credits. Cause she did exactly what Palps wanted and he took her body. Now set to destroy the universe in the name of the Skywalkers

I dig it. That would be possible to do…

I feel like it should be a different scene at the end though, where should the epilogue be? Too bad there’s so little footage of “Dark Rey”, it would be fun to create a new epilogue scene with her.

Yea it would have been nice if they explored Dark Rey more

Rey kills Palpatine just like he wanted and told her his plan was. Everything plays out as is, then at the last scene when she says Skywalker, her eyes flash Sith and you hear Palpatines laugh. Roll credits. Cause she did exactly what Palps wanted and he took her body. Now set to destroy the universe in the name of the Skywalkers

Hope work on this progresses and is going well. Greatly look forward to this among so many other people

On a separate note, i think Palpatine should be grey/evil looking at all times he is cloaked as Sidious leading up to his moment with Mace in ROTS.

One- I dont like the idea of his lightening hurting him, and him being that dumb (Despite being so smart elsewise). So if Luke never threw his lightsaber down, what would Palps have done? Just zapped him anyways and got fried himself like an idiot again. Then, to add more stupidity to it all, he dies by this sammmme thing, in ROS. Like, this is the dumbestttt thing ever, beyond worse than the Death star flaws. I don’t like it and think that should not be what is happening in the scene with Anakin, Mace, and Palpatine.

Two- I think Palpatines natural form is that of an evil skeevy old grand wizard of the sith, and that the image he puts forth to the Senate and Anakin are a lie. That in the moment Mace is zapping him with his own lightening, Palpatine is merely using it as an opportunity to reveal his true form while using it to make it seem that Mace had grievously injured him. All of which were part of Sidious’s grand plan to manipulate the Senate, Jedi, and Anakin into his trap. Like in Primal Fear, Aaron was never real, there was only ever Roy.

idir_hh said:

In Revenge of The Sith when Anakin is playing on that Nintendo wii u looking thing, can we make it look like he is checking on Ashoka in the siege of Mandalore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6M4e9yNwKo

This scene? Neither make sense in this moment imo and the screen is hardly viewable (Its out of focus, small, and at odd angle. Even if you added something in, youd have to blur it, make it small and match angle resulting in a likewise barely viewable screen). Anakin is having a vision of Padame and sensing that Obiwan had been there. Imo the only thing this scene needs, is glimpses of Padame and Obiwan together mixed in his vision to give impression of infidelity. Especially when combined with scenes of her birthing. This adds to the final moments of the movie when Padame shows up with Obiwan. Leaving Anakin feeling betrayed and feeding into his jealousy and pov on the situation. Which backs up Old Ben telling Luke that “Many of the truths we cling to greatly depend on our point of view”.

BedeHistory731 said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Yeah, except Qui-Gon’s, since he’s rebellious. It’s not so much about making Luke’s saber unique as it is being more aesthetically pleasing and thematically appropriate.

Agreed. Heck, adding a line about how Qui-Gon is not really a part of the order anymore would help to add gravitas to his green blade. Since Luke is a Jedi outside of the order as well, it makes sense that he would carry on Qui-Gon’s legacy.

I also like some of the knights/masters division. I’d prefer if the whole order used blue, except for the masters of the council using purple. It highlights how “royal” they are, in comparison to the other members. Obi-Wan would keep his blue blade, out of choice/to thematically separate himself from the council’s issues.

I toyed with the council having white sabers. Seemed like their position would warrant the difference. I imagine any one who knows of the jedi recognize the threat by the color of the saber. Like blue? Meh, ill try my luck. White? Oh hell no. Red, Im f@cked

thebluefrog said:

Up until the finale of AOTC, green sabres for masters and white sabres for knights/apprentices makes sense. In fact, at the time I was certain Lucas WAS doing that…but then Obi-Wan never used green. Of course, part of that was because white vs white made for a more interesting ROTS.

So it may have just been a happy coincidence up until the end of AOTC.

I think part of it was just that he was boxed in by ANH and had to have obiwan’s saber match. I personally like the battle in ROTS between Anakin and Obi as blue and green sabers and have never been a fan of both having blue. Plus it makes it hard to tell whos swing is whos in some scenes.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Yeah, except Qui-Gon’s, since he’s rebellious. It’s not so much about making Luke’s saber unique as it is being more aesthetically pleasing and thematically appropriate.

If i were to go that way, i would make his white rather than green. The rebirth as a force ghost and purity of white seem appropriate with him. Really though, i like his green for the reasons listed above though, despite his rebelliousness. The implication is simple, blue- apprentice, green- master, red- sith. To me the Eu got convoluted with how and why sabers are colored the way they are.

SparkySywer said:

I like the idea that all pre-RotJ Jedi had blue lightsabers, but all post-RotJ Jedi had green lightsabers. It adds more depth to Return of the Jedi that the new lightsaber color means a new era of Jedi.

I personally like blue for apprentices and Green for masters. So Obiwans saber in ROS and ANH is green in my personal versions. This works with the sequels as the only one with a green saber is master Luke. Ben, Rey and Leia were apprentices and use blue sabers

Edit- This thematically plays into different things too. Like Anakin never became a master (As the council denied him) so he only ever had a blue saber, where as his son Luke shows up with a green saber. Which along with the fact that Luke was even trained should irritate Vader as he was too old to be trained and denied being a master. Luke showing up in Rotj should not just irritate him, it should remind him of what he lost and passed on in his path following Sidious. Along with Luke saying “Im a Jedi like my father before me” are encouragement to his character as a person. That he can still do the right thing and still be a Jedi (even if only at heart).

Luke having Green in the sequels represents the masters and what Snoke, Sidious, and Kylo are trying to destroy. Along with what Rey is trying to become. Reys saber at the end of the Sequels (staff) should have been green. Imo

Edit edit- Though her yellow saber is appropriate too as mixing Green and Red light gives you yellow. So you could go either way their but i would go green and not imply shes imbuing the sith side with her jedi side. Which is why Mace should have green too.

Sorry, so many thoughts on this.

Obiwan’s saber being green in ROS and ANH makes more sense also for Lukes in ROTJ, as it looks just like his. Luke is now a jedi, and using a model similar to his masters. (Also luke is literally using the saber prop of Obi’s from ANH in all the scenes except 2 close up vanity shots)

Tantive3+1 said:

All Jedi lightsabers in the PT should be blue so that Luke’s new lightsaber in ROTJ is more unique.

https://imgur.com/gallery/h5pvOGd

Im doing a version of this, i just dont show it on my main page anymore as everyone seemed bugged by the blue sabers

Nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHnhxHMJcJ4 the turret gunners are pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYwHoZbZGzg I like the line where he says they’ve moved to the unfinished portion of the death star. Rest of it really just feels like it pulls away from the main action and slows it down

CMMAP said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:
I have also been looking into the pros and cons of the 4k versions and whether they are worth it. They are not. They were filmed in 2k and upscaled. So doing mine in 1080p and upscaling would be equal. Plus, movies never render vfx above 2k, even if the movie was shot in 4k. So after the research and debate ive decided to stick with the bluray copies, but may try to use their atmos soundtrack.

Personally, got no problem with that. The upscaling isn’t needed.
If you want to use the atmos track, make sure it is real atmos. Often the studios use this as marketing bate and there is no real atmos track or at least only just one or two scenes.

Ill have to look into that more and see if its worth it

StarkillerAG said:

4throck said:

StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

I mentioned this earlier but the scenes between Han and Leia need to be more intimate.

Quick, someone find out if Carrie Fisher has ever done a sex scene in her career! 😉

You don’t need that. Cutting out the love triangle with Luke is a first step.

I know, I was joking. It’s a reference to some of the conversation that was going on in the prequel redux thread recently. Someone was trying to add a sex scene between Anakin and Padme, using footage from another Natalie Portman movie.

That scene works well in the context of Episode III. But on Jedi no.

I already told you, I WAS JOKING! Of course Han and Leia shouldn’t have sex on screen.

Dont back peddle, you know you want it lol jk. Agreed that it works for the prequels and Anakins temptation/fall, but neither Luke nor Han have such an arch or require such an intimate scene.

And idk about Love Triangle, but she straight kisses Luke in front of Han and again after Lukes hand is chopped. In the deleted scene/alt version you can even hear the kiss. Plus Luke oogling over her in Anh. You know what, never mind, its a triangle lol.

ifjg said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

thebluefrog said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Id enjoy seeing an R rated Star Wars. Itd be a pain with all the blood simulation but i think id be pretty cool. As a kid i always liked the blood in ANH and wondered why they did away with it in the other movies. Corridor crew did some small quick vids but they were more on the ridiculous side. I later understood that the wounds were being cauterized but still. I miss the bombastic squids used in the 80’s like in Robocop haha

You know, I actually had an idea for an R-rated Star Wars, complete with sex and nudity. It’d be doable with some actors’ other works and deepfaking.

However, we have to be honest, the SW community is extremely immature and conservative about sexual material, so it would be negatively received (in public) and get a lot of spiteful attempts to stop it.

Too bad, there’s enough source material out there to make it work…maybe I should take another crack at it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G0OLUOwLSa35g6ytyyO9ZDmz0x_bLFYr/view Quick mock up. No nudity tho

Probably NSFW to click on.

This is awesome. Not sure why the hate, as I thought the nudity was very tastefully edited out to make it fit in with the saga. I’ve been interested in fan edits that aim to portray a more physical and less whiny relationship between Anakin and Padme, but it’s always felt like the scenes in the movie lack the punch to get across their intimacy. This is the edge their relationship needed. It also underscores the temptation element that would have made Palpatine want to pair them together in the first place. Great idea using it as a segue into Anakin’s nightmare, especially with the lighting on the sex scene already giving it a dreamy quality. I’d love to see where this could go with some more work, though I honestly can’t think this could be improved.

Itll be sticking around 😃 I agree whole heartily, thank you

Skybatman said:

Any progress ? And how close are your edits to being ready?

Not giving any solid dead lines but hoping next year it should be. Lots of progress but not all is something i can show just yet. Things behind the scenes type stuff, lots of learning, getting new plugins, etc. For example i got Red Giants VFX suite, but am taking time to learn all of its features. Its supercomp feature alone tho allows for faster work times with a more stream lined work flow. Its got other things for tracking where it calculates the lense type, warps the image flat, allows you to track properly with no sliding or angle warping cause of weird camera movements, then warps the picture back to how it should be. Like if its fisheye, or wide angle. Even something like going back and adding light wraps that look better. Supercomp even makes doing lightsaber effects a lot easier with out all the precomped layers. It really alters the work flow a bit.
Ive also gotten a lot of new VFX assets like Action Essentials 1080p and other ones. Learned a bunch of new ways for compositing these assets (Not to mention what supercomp can do with them). Which is helping me fix up all the explosions and fire during the attack of theed or escape of Naboo.
There are plenty of new shots to get started on like ideas put forth on here about Tatooine.
Plus there is the 3d elements side of things. Im still working on getting the 3d models from Battle front II situated to help in creating new shots. Plus lots more learning on the 3d side for smooth, exciting camera movements alongside the smooth and exciting character/ship movement vs what the camera is doing. I still plan on getting the Unreal engine (Its free) but need a better graphics card (Hard to justify just yet during these times).
There are also some other plugins by video copilot id like to check out like there futuristic city pack (Already have the rooftop one).

I have also been looking into the pros and cons of the 4k versions and whether they are worth it. They are not. They were filmed in 2k and upscaled. So doing mine in 1080p and upscaling would be equal. Plus, movies never render vfx above 2k, even if the movie was shot in 4k. So after the research and debate ive decided to stick with the bluray copies, but may try to use their atmos soundtrack.

idir_hh said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

G&G-Fan said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=658981094799087

Part of me wishes some of the deleted scenes were cleaned up and worked into the movies. I know the movie would have to be recut due to pacing, but some of the scenes were cool. Like Luke making his green saber.

I second this.

Seeing how well done your prequel edits are, have you considered doing your own OT revisited edits?

Na, Ady is doing more than i could do. Han in Carbonite, Hoth hangar models, Dagobah model, etc. He’s filmed people on set for shots on Hoth or Bwing fighters. 3d printing models to spec or gear like helmets. Just to name a few. He still inspires me in many ways and would love to see him take on the prequels to see what he would do.

How about the ST?
😉

I dont want to get ahead of myself haha If i can do everything i want for the prequels then maybe ill try some of the other movies 😉