The Aluminum Falcon

Hello Harmy,

Unfortunately I wasn't able to watch the whole thing but, as I was skimming, I noticed a few things. However, these may be creative decisions and regardless of what you do with them this is my new favorite version of ESB.

- While not as blue as in the 2004 SE, you kept some blue in Hoth. It was decidedly more blue than the whiter GOUT. However, with the recent discovery of the vintage bootleg, this coloring you've put may in fact be more accurate than the GOUT.

- When they first land at the platform in Cloud City, the matte you've placed to hide the addition of CGI is just a tad bit too blue in my opinion; although, it looks better than the test clip you posted a bit ago. A little pink may do it good.

- Later, as they are leaving the platform with Lando, the matte in the back looks a bit too desaturated. A nice little saturation boost might be nice.

- On the whole, the movie looked darker than the GOUT; although, the GOUT looks faded to my eyes so I'm fine with this. Everything looked more realistic.

- During the asteroid chase, there seemed to be a lack of pinkness that was present in the GOUT (as shown in the little window). The color seemed a lot more like the 2004 edition. A once colored explosion looks almost white at 39:54.

When I get the chance, I'll watch the whole thing. Don't get me wrong, Harmy, this is a most excellent release. If you thought Adywan's was stunning, this is superb. As for the coloring, I don't mind either way. You do what you think is right.

I'm downloading as fast as I can and I'll tell you all my thoughts straight away.

doubleofive said:

TheBoost said:

Or would a sock even KNOW they are a sock? Or would it be like the Final Five Cylons?

But that would mean ANY of us could be a JT sock... Even me?!

Harmy, I'd be interested in testing this.

Frink: ludicrous
Adywan: epic

dark_jedi said:

So in your guys opinions, are the commentary files not worth it, I did notice on the Gonzo commentary it went a long time between comments, kind of a boring commentary, thoughts?

 

Wait so why did the burn marks not appear in the JSC, if they were already present in Moth3r's telecine which predates the JSC? Also, for the GOUT/Definitive Collection, how were they made less apparent?

Listening to some of it now, I recognise some audio from the Empire of Dreams documentary. The audio track run time is 02:01:09.

EDIT: VLC Media Player tells me a different run time so I'm not sure which is right.

OCPMovie only did it for ANH. The commentary is sourced from various interviews, according to the Classic Edition thread. The following speak in it:
George Lucas
Anthony Daniels - C3PO
David Prowse - Darth Vader
Peter Mayhew - Chewbacca
Kenny Baker - R2D2
Mark Hamill - Luke Skywalker
Carrie Fisher - Princess Leia
Harrison Ford - Han Solo
Garrick Hagon - Biggs Darklighter
Ken Ralston - ILM
Dennis Muren - ILM
Ralph McQuarrie - Production Paintings
Charles Lippincott - Former VP, Lucasfilm
James Earl Jones - Voice of Darth Vader
John Williams - Composer
Irvin Kerschner - Director, The Empire Strikes Back
Frank Oz - Yoda, The Empire Strikes Back
Jeremy Bulloch - Boba Fett, The Empire Strikes Back
Matthew Carter - Bib Fortuna, Return of the Jedi

I don't know anything about the Gonzo or Cowclops commentaries but I remember that OCPMovie edited together a decent commentary for his ANH: Classic Edition. Would you be interested? I could upload these.

dark_jedi said:

TV's Frink said:

lol at "BluGOUT."

Note that I think it's a great title, it just struck me as funny.

It is pretty funny, truth be told, I actually HATE the term GOUT, just sounds stupid to me, like a disease or something, Ricardo and I make fun of this term all the time, but that is what you guys here use, so I guess I will have to as well.

Thanks for the update none. By the way, have we still not yet found more information on where the Catnap bootleg came from?

Interesting... Thanks for the info none!

The color correction looks wonderful. Although, I do hope that you have the time to do the crawl separately. It does stand out from the GOUT. If you need a reference for color of the crawl, try the Empire of Dreams documentary. That footage looked quite nice.

Thanks Moth3r! I'll have a look at that link.

resonator said:

just to find out that the PS3 won't play BD-Rs. :O

Wait. What? Mine does. It plays them fine.

Sorry for being an AVISynth newbie but what are all the plug-ins do you need to install to use this script? Also, how exactly do you plug in the script? Where do you paste it? Sorry for being so AVISynth challenged. Can anyone help me?

Outstanding work once again Harmy. I've never seen the wampa scene in such high quality. I'm glad you're making such quick progress.

Asaki said:

So I was skimming through this a bit yesterday, and maybe it's been a while since I last watched the SE, but I don't remember there being CGI in the Rancor scene. Why was this replaced?

I believe the original version has very visible matte lines that Harmy wants to restore; although, I could be wrong. I think the 2004 SE made them less visible.

I agree with you in many respects, Funky Days. I have the Evil Dead Blu-Ray and enjoy it immensely. It makes all other transfers look awful despite its graininess. The film grain gives it character, and it just enhances the ED experience. I now watch it more than ever. Some people talked about it having DVNR, but my eyes couldn't detect it. It's so vastly superior to the ED II transfer which is completely wax-works. Oh  and gits and shiggles LOL.

As for this Blu-Ray project, I remain neutral. The grain gives it mood and character. The grainy desert... Anyway, I don't mind grain all that much. If you choose to wipe out the grain, I'll be fine with that too. If the samples are any indication, I have no problem with the amount of grain-reducer you use.

I know I'm resurrecting an old thread but I was wondering if anyone planned to make a 70mm ESB reconstruction now? After all, now we have the ESB Grande and ESB bootleg as color references and morgands1's audio recording of it. Combined with the list, this should be an adequate amount to work with.

This is just a random radical idea about ANH but after seeing Adywan's great work in his Revisited Emperor scene, it seems possible. Perhaps we could make a scene where the emperor appears via hologram to Vader, thus strengthening the master/apprentice bond. Maybe in the scene where the officer informs Tarkin and Vader that Dantooine is deserted, a hologram message from the emperor could pop up from that little round, black center piece of the table that doesn't really seem to do anything. Maybe new dialogue could establish Tarkin's importance so he has some excuse to boss Vader around.

Huh a lot of scenes look far grainier than I expected, especially the desert. I never knew that Star Wars was supposed to look that grainy. They must have really DVNR-ed it for the 2004 release. As for making the Blu-Ray, this grainy... I'm indifferent. I thought the samples were very nice minus some issues so that may be the road Dark Jedi wants to take.

Out of curiosity, where did you get those 70mm shots from? Are they from the Senator Theater showing or an altogether different one?

I agree with Frink; I believe you're referring to kamiyo, xhonzi, not Neptune.