I have a ton of material to include on a DVD for this (was my own project until real world work took over) and actually have a pretty cool thing: Disney's 1990s television distribution version of the film on BetaSP.
It's in PAL, BUT...is a top-end NTSC conversion, so there's no speed/pitch probs (movie runs correct 94 mins). Again my prob is getting this from BetaSP to DVD (and having the time to do it).
For hard core animation fans, I have a bunch of other stuff as well (Gene Kelly's Invitation To The Dance, the cut Martins And The Coys opening from Make Mine Music...) I was thinking of putting together an "Animation Archive Collection" but time and work get in the way.
I actually work at the studio where Roger was shot (Elstree) and have a giant Roger photo watching over me as I go into my office!
LOVE this movie...and there are TONS of little gags that were animated and cut last minute that have to be out there. New to the forums and not sure how you post images here, but I have some from some scenes that never made it in.
Also have, as I said in the Theif thread, the "Roger Rabbit And The Secrets Of ToonTown" special, which is a great, technical, 50-min doc.
The pig-head scene was not complete on the current Vista DVD (shameful!) and was a hybrid cut that showed part of it in pencil test. I know this was fully completed (it was the first part of the movie to be done) and would love to see this back in properly, where it belongs.
Regarding the Roger shorts: the last one, Trail Mix Up, contained a "Rugged Tools" (or "Ragged Tools") joke with a woman straddling a chainsaw (as Roger flied past to save Baby Herman from the saw mill). On the UK VHS, the background was all "mushed up" so that we couldn't see the poster. On the original CAV LD (which I have), the poster is clearly there.
I'm not sure which one is on the Vista DVD, but a part of me thinks it could very well be the "uncut" version.
The Vista series was a disappointment - instead of the redundant pan-and-scan/open matte version, I'd have much preferred a complete history, with all the pre-Williams and Zemeckis plots and tests in there.
Finally...for someone looking for a Dick Tracy trailer...I have one on VHS (under "Walt Disney Pictures" no less), as well as off-air recordings of a half-hour promo doc, and (I think!) an EPK thing that runs about seven minutes.
Sounds like we'll finally have Superman II done and dusted by year's end, but howsabout Supes III and IV?
I'd love to see all the cut footage from Roger Rabbit put back in, and The Muppet Movie, in the version that someone mentioned above, IS a much better film and I can hardly watch the R1 DVDs as the longer one is the one I grew up with.
And to whoever it was looking for Payback (and I'm with ya there!) - I believe Brian Helgeland is working on a director's cut for DVD release this year.
Helloooooo! Just had to sign up after spending the entire day looking through this whole thread and clicking on most of the links.
Hi, it's Ben here, from the Animated News page. One of our guys on that forum told me about the cut Garrett was putting together and my interest was instantly set at high alert defcon 5!
Apart from being a hug RW fan, I have made it a point of conversation to get new people I come into contact with up to date with the history behind TT&TC (and Superman II, but that one seems to have been taken care of now), having been lucky enough to visit the Camden studio during the Roger Rabbit time (my Dad used to work at Elstree Studios, where Roger was shot, and where I have my edit suite and offices still).
I offered, through Animated News' forum boards, the broadcast versions of "I Drew Roger Rabbit" and "Animating Art", both of which I was able to have duped to BetaSP format during one of my freelance jobs (if I had known anything about the earlier 1980s doc from Thames I would have tried to get that too).
Since I've been away filming this week (and battling flu), I haven't had a chance to dig these out yet. Garrett has asked me in the AN forum if there was "any news on this", and I replied there, but thought I should simply sign up here and join the good fight with anything I can do to help.
Here's pretty much what I said in my latest reply at AN (changed a bit to add some extra info in): ---------------------------------------------------------
I don't simply have these tapes to hand. I need to visit the library here at the studio and dig them out. Also have to work out how to transfer BetaSP to DVD for ya, so it'll be a little while yet, but well worth it. Working as fast as I can - I'd like to see this all together as much as you!!
BTW... On reading through your forum...you might be interested in the opening and closing titles for "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum", which RW also completed. A movie channel here has been running that lately and I could pick those up. Would be in PAL, obviously.
I also have the full "Roger Rabbit And The Secrets Of Toontown" special in its original broadcast version and in a special edit I did that incorporates material from a Disney documentary that had a section on Roger with RW explaining the tricks in the Benny The Cab scene. There's your next job (hehe!)...a cut of Roger with all the deleted stuff put back in!
Lastly, I have an NTSC DVD dub of the pan-and-scan Raggedy Ann And Andy, which I am pretty sure came from the Columbia LaserDisc, instead of a VHS, if that also helps, but it seems you've pretty much covered that one (?).
BTW...as a picky editor, I thought the Miramax cut on LD has amazing print quality, as far as I remember. In fact, I remember being quite knocked out by the image quality on this release, even if it was in CLV.
VERY impressed with the time and energy you are putting in to this - the kind of thing I used to do for my own home tapes before the net sprouted up and "real work" had to take over!
So, that was this morning. Having read through the whole lot, count me in!
What also pushed me to signing to the forums was that I may well have the 1989 Academy Awards. For most of the 1980s I had to count on friends to tape it from a cable channel for me, but as a HUGE Roger fan, I'm pretty sure this would have been one I specifically had taped or was even able to tape myself. Since I have a room full of VHS tapes - none of which are properly labelled, natch! - I'll have to search through and look at anything with "Oscars" written on it.
And...no hopes up at all here...but I MIGHT have "The Little Island" on VHS somewhere. I had tons of animation stuff at one point (loads of original Walt Disney TV shows, the ENTIRE Muppet Show run including specials, etc, I know, I know...) and for some reason that kills me to think of now, I never stored or kept them. No promises on those, but I'll look, hopefully over this Easter break.