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#310895
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Cop Attacks Skateboarder, For Calling Him "Dude"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310895/action/topic#310895
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
You're the one that used the term sig heil. It's not very fun when your comments are taken out of context, is it? bla bla bla. at least when you do it, I don't act like a cry baby.

Originally posted by: lordjedi

Originally posted by: Sweeney599
Originally posted by: lordjedi
It is appropriate. not

What a big powerful argument that was. Not!

it may not have been big or powerful, but it was correct.

Originally posted by: lordjedi

No, it's called get control of the situation first. If someone is fighting you, you get control of them first, then you frisk them. How do you know if they had a knife or not? They don't need to have a gun to be a threat.

it was an out of control situation because the cops overreacted. There has to be a better way of controlling the situation than strangling two kids.

Originally posted by: lordjedi

GET YOUR FUCKING EYES CHECKED THEN ASSHOLE!!!! My eyes saw a cop grab two kids by their back and neck in order to get control of the situation. then I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
Originally posted by: lordjedi

Originally posted by: Sweeney599
Originally posted by: lordjedi
You mean this Rodney King? yep the one who the cops beat the shit out of.

The one that was awarded $3.8 million dollars for said beating. yep, after the cops were acquitted.

Originally posted by: lordjedi

It is an excuse when you feel like your life could be in danger. Have you ever talked to a cop that's been faced with someone coming at them that is clearly high on PCP? It takes billy clubs and several tasers to take the person down, so it's a very scary situation. the point is, after it was clear he was "down", they continued to hit him. that is excessive force.


Originally posted by: lordjedi

Criminal records do mean a lot. Hence why we now have a 3 strikes law in California. Criminal records go to your history and show what you're likely to do. true but is still no excuse for continuing to beat him after you have him under control.

Originally posted by: lordjedi

That showed that he was trying to get away. Add that to his criminal record and they didn't know what to expect.
same as above

Originally posted by: lordjedi

Originally posted by: Sweeney599
Originally posted by: lordjedi
$3.8 million sounds like a pretty high level of vindication to me
the cops got acquitted in the criminal case.


I don't really give a fuck you little prick. He got $3.8 million dollars and then proceeded to break the law some more at a later date. He even tried to sue again at that later date except the cops were a little smarter and didn't beat him up.


well I do give a fuck. it goes to my original point for bringing Rodney Kind up: that even when you are right, the court could still rule against you.


Originally posted by: lordjedi

And a lot of America (about half of it) thought slavery was ok. And a lot of America wanted to be ruled by the King of England back in 1775. Just because "a lot of America" disagrees with something, doesn't make them right.
true. but in the Rodney King case, I believe that "a lot of America" was right.

Originally posted by: lordjedi
And the mayor and DA pretty much gave in to avoid any further public outrage.
maybe or maybe it is how they truly felt.

Originally posted by: lordjedi
"No justice, no peace"? What the hell is that? A white man gets beaten and nobody cares. A black man gets beaten and people riot in the streets destroying their neighborhood. Who's in the right on that one smartass?
this happened because there has been a long history of black men getting beaten up and lynched and etc and nobody caring. When the Rodney King ruling came down, people just got fed up. It is of course no excuse for beating up and innocent white man. Neither are right.

Originally posted by: lordjedi

Watch the fucking tape clearly jackass. It's quite obvious that he attempted to get up several times only to be hit and told "Stay down!" each and every time!
I guess we are watching different tapes. Because I saw him just laying there while they beat him.

Originally posted by: lordjedi

Originally posted by: Sweeney599
none of this really as any bearing on my point that is is possible to lose your case in court even when you are in the right.

And we have appeals courts for that. The POINT is that there is a SYSTEM in place for "righting a wrong" and that doesn't involve running from the cops or trying to fight them.
you can still lose in appeals court. My point is that someone might feel that even though they are right, they have no chance in court. So from their perspective, the best thing for them to do is run.

Originally posted by: ferris209
Refer to my sig.


and then refer to mine
Post
#310752
Topic
Cop Attacks Skateboarder, For Calling Him "Dude"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310752/action/topic#310752
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Oh, so it's ok to violate the law if you don't like it?

that is not what I meant. I meant that we should show a little common sense. These only kids riding skateboards, not thieves coming into my house taking my belongings. What do you want cops to do? beat everyone over the head for every little infraction of the law they make? I think your head would get very sore.

Originally posted by: lordjedi
It is appropriate. not

Originally posted by: lordjedi
Neither you nor I know what those kids really might have had for one yeah right, I'm sure that had uzies and Glocks on them. Also, its called frisk, not strangle.

Originally posted by: lordjedi
For another, as Ferris said, he wasn't strangling them. I grabbed them around the neck and back in order to get them on the ground. what Ferris says and what my eyes see are too different things. My eyes saw the cop strangle two kids.


Originally posted by: lordjedi
You mean this Rodney King? yep the one who the cops beat the shit out of.

Originally posted by: lordjedi
even though the article doesn't mention it, was high on PCP at the time.
that is not an excuse for police brutality.

Originally posted by: lordjedi
This is the same Rodney King that already had a criminal record at that time.
nor is that

Originally posted by: lordjedi
And he had been in a high speed chase leading up to that incident.
nor is that

Originally posted by: lordjedi
$3.8 million sounds like a pretty high level of vindication to me
the cops got acquitted in the criminal case.

Originally posted by: lordjedi
I don't think he deserved a dime.
both the Mayor and DA of LA at the time, disagree with. So does a lot of America.

Originally posted by: lordjedi
You do know that if he had just laid still they would have stopped hitting him
funny it looks as if that is exactly what he did, and they continued to beat him. It is clear the cops went too far.

none of this really as any bearing on my point that is is possible to lose your case in court even when you are in the right.






Post
#310300
Topic
Cop Attacks Skateboarder, For Calling Him "Dude"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310300/action/topic#310300
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Also, there appears to be an ordinance in that city that prohibits skateboarding. So yeah, maybe there are murderers, rapists, and drug dealers around, but that cop is patrolling that area and those kids were clearly violating a local ordinance.

Sieg Heil.

Originally posted by: lordjedi

Did the arresting officer perform his job appropriately?


nope. It is never appropriate for a barbaric animal to strangle to kids. He could have seriously injured them or killed them.

Originally posted by: lordjedi
Even if you think the cop is wrong, you stop and take your complaint before a judge. If you're in the right, you'll be vindicated.


ha! tell that to Rodney King! What kind of fantasy world are you living in? Courts don't always make the right decisions.



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#310147
Topic
Cop Attacks Skateboarder, For Calling Him "Dude"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310147/action/topic#310147
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Sweeney, you're an idiot, turn up your volume a little bit and listen to how many times that officer in Arkansas said to stop and when he yells stop watch those kids take off running, that is what we here in the rest of the world call FLEEING A POLICE OFFICER, you can't do that. You dimwit.


THE COP STRANGLED TWO KIDS! KIDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How the fuck do you justify that?!? Where does it say in the police manual that you are supposed to strangle a fleeing KID??? And one of them was a girl . I know one thing. If I were that girl's father, nothing would stop me from kicking that cop's ass. NOTHING. Ferris, it is of no surprise that you are taking the cops side. You'd do that even if they had shot the skate boarders.

btw, that cop in the Baltimore video should be thrown in jail for stealing. He had no right to steal that kid's skate board. It is private property and belongs to the kid, not the cop. Also the cop was wrong to warn the other kid about video taping the incident. Its a free country, it was a public area, the kid can therefor film anything he wants. That cop a pig.