StormtroopersAreBetter

Johnny Ringo said:

StormtroopersAreBetter said:

Mielr said:

When is Han told that Vader is Luke's father?

I don't know. I'm watching Return of the Jedi right now, so I'll pay attention. I never thought about whether Han is informed of the relationship between Vader, Luke and Leia before. I only remember the scene where she tells Han Luke is her sister.

uh...brother?

&%$!

Speaking of watching Jedi again, those 3 "annoyances" I listed in the OP? I don't find them as annoying now as I did then. Must've been in a bad mood that day, huh? Mon does seem slightly saddened by the news she's delivering, Palpy does sound sarcastic on second thought, and whatever with Palpy's Force lightning.

Also, I think Han has some impressive foot strength. He managed to hold Lando and himself on to the barge using... only one foot I think. :/ (Hey! I was being sarcastic! Didn't you realize?)

Mielr said:

When is Han told that Vader is Luke's father?

I don't know. I'm watching Return of the Jedi right now, so I'll pay attention. I never thought about whether Han is informed of the relationship between Vader, Luke and Leia before. I only remember the scene where she tells Han Luke is her sister.

Mielr said:

What explanation is Han given for Luke's departure from Endor?

"Oh, Luke, yeah- he, um, went out for a gallon of milk- on the Death Star. It was more important than staying here and helping us with the shield generator"

Luke felt Vader's presence on Endor and felt he was endangering the mission. So he decided to confront his father... but not before telling Leia she is his sister.

TheBoost said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

No, the upbeat yub yub song is true to what ROTJ's ending is supposed to be. The new downbeat music amounts to an attempt to warp the ending of the movie. Which is of course what it is. It shows a lack of understanding of the movie. As does the insertion of the other planet celebration scenes just where they can break up the delicate emotional flow of the movie and the atmosphere. Finally, the Hayden addition is the purest malicious vandalism which screws up something really good.

 

I agree 100%. ROTJ's ending used to be ultramegahappy. The new music is kind of somber and feels wrong to me. And random shots of planets we've never seen break the emotional ties I'm feeling to the characters.

"Weesa free!"

TheBoost said:

StormtroopersAreBetter said:

2. I get a bit annoyed with the emperor's voice when he says: "Oh, I'm afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational when your friends arrive."

I can see why ROTJ is seen as the weakest of the OT, although being weakest of the OT is akin to saying someone is slightly smaller than Andre the Giant.

And I gotta say, i LOVE Palpy's voice when he says that. He sounds like such a jerk. He's not just utterly evil... he's sarcastic. I'd say that is my favorite Palpy moment in all the movies.

When I heard him say that, he sounded whiny to me and almost as if he was going crazy (if he hadn't already.) I mean, insane with power even. But after reading your post, he does sound sarcastic, doesn't he? (I'm just real easy to convince aren't I?)

Also, I didn't include any changes from 1997 or 2004 in my list of annoyances for many reasons. First, the list would be too long, and second, I enjoy and prefer the original originals more... even if the 2004 DVDs are sharper/more detailed.

Ah, you got me C3PX! I did say minor annoyances and that they don't get in the way of me enjoying the film, but reading your post made me realize how stupid and insignificant my "flaws" are. :/

So would you consider Jedi the worst of the OT? They're all good in their own ways, so it's hard for me to put the 3 films in order from best to worst.

I was reading Wookieepedia and apparently Return of the Jedi is considered the worst OT film by fans. It's by no means a perfect movie, but it's still light years ahead of any PT film. I have a few minor annoyances with the film, but they don't get in the way of my enjoyment with the movie:

1. Mon Mothma's speech about the Death Star II and the shield generator is pretty unconvincing. She looks like she's reading from giant cue cards off-screen and I don't think someone can be so emotionless when saying "Many Bothans died to bring us this information." :/ But that's just me.

2. I get a bit annoyed with the emperor's voice when he says: "Oh, I'm afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational when your friends arrive." (And I can't believe he underestimated the Rebels by that much. First, they managed to evade everyone on the first DS by taking back Leia and then they blew it up!)

3. How could Luke withstand all that electricity coarsing through his body, courtesy of Palpy? I don't get very annoyed with this one... maybe I can come up with some lame fanboy excuse?... Maybe Darth Vader used the Force to protect Luke from most of the emperor's Force lightning? :p

That's it... and no Ewoks in sight. I've always been one of those people who defend the Ewok vs. the Empire battle scene.

Now... do any of you have little annoyances with ROTJ or maybe any other OT film?

CO said:

George Lucas Commentary on ROTS DVD, "It is one big movie, and it is suppose to be watched 1-6, and shouldn't be looked at as two trilogies."

If that's true, then I like the 2nd half the best! ;)

Gaffer Tape said:

The former is a 2000 re-release of the SE (and the first time it wasn't referred to as the SE), while the latter is the original '97 release of the SE (fullscreen).

Back to the torrents for me, then. I have the 2004 DVDs, but joining this forum has really got me into obtaining the original original trilogy. Good thing my DVD player can play Xvid/DivX/AVI files burned right on a disc without converting of any kind. :)

Besides, I like spotting the differences. It can be fun. Not to ramble on here, but SPIKE aired Return of the Jedi last night and I tried to figure out which version they were airing. I figured out it was the 2004 version when I saw that Anakin had his eyebrows erased.

(And I almost never call it "A New Hope". It's usually just "Star Wars" for me. Was the "A New Hope" subtitle made up in '81?)

What version of the trilogy is this VHS boxset?

I found it at the local music store in the used VHS bin and noticed on the bottom it was dated 2000. So, I just assumed it was a re-release of the 1997 special edition. But then, after doing some research I found this which is apparently another 1997 boxset:

I just disabled UAC in Vista. UAC was annoying me. I'd open something completely harmless and it'd take seconds of my life to make sure the Control Panel was safe to run. I'm running Spybot and ZoneAlarm Firewall so I'm not worried.

It's not bad OS actually.

I don't know... things like this:

But you're right, there are more problems with TPM than just the above. But I have to admit - the podrace is still one of my favorite scenes. It's weird... a small glimpse of excellence in an otherwise pool of crap.

I'm watching The Phantom Menace (I'm going to Hell!), and I just have to ask...

WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH PADME'S HAIRSTYLES? Talk about over-the-top.

devils_syndicate said:

I have the Fullscreen Version in the Gold/Copper Box

Why? Wouldn't the silver widescreen edition (the one I have) be better? (More picture?) I used to think that fullscreen was better but I've since learned otherwise...