Stinky-Dinkins

Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
then best wipe the mud from your own spectacles.


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Originally posted by: Shimraa
man i just dont know how this happened, the site went trolless for 2 years, what did jay do differently in the past year, is beyond me.

Obi the truth is that having lots of moderation and tons of rules in place, will not make a very good online community. With too many rules and strict enforcing them, people dont feel at home. they feel like they are always being watched. with this site, it takes ALOT to get banned, or at least it did. i beleive jimbo was the first person to be banned and he reached like 3000 posts, and was around for about 6 months of complaining before he was booted. so i donno how you can say OT isnt a community, its more of a community then probably 90% of other forums out there.

p.s. i dont take nanner seriously, if i did then i would be sending pm's to the mods, but to date i havent.

Originally posted by: Rob
This thread is gay, everyone should head over to my Full House thread...see you there!


http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=7127&STARTPAGE=1

Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
Hehehe, the only place I'm at is in my own YAGE thread. No one forces you to click on it. However, I understand the impetus behind 'leave already' and 'drama queen,' etc. That's the entire POINT of a YAGE thread, and why they are so disfavored.

I don't like nazi-moderated forums either. Like most things in life, something of a balance is usually best. Zero moderation is just as unappealing to me as over-moderation. Perhaps because I moderate with a very light touch on other message boards, the complete lack of moderation here is unacceptable to me.

I would have spent a lot of time deciding whether or not Go-Mer is a troll. He would have had quite a few Private Messages from me to get more information, and let him know what line could not be crossed.
Needless to say, Rob and Stinky would have gotten some messages, too. Personal attacks is one of the common taboos on message boards, and it's really not over-moderating to discourage them.

Perhaps it is a silly veil to allow "your crazy views are retarded" but disallow "you are a crazy retard" ... yet it's a distinction I feel very important in order to encourage a community that is not hostile. By now, Rob and Stinky would have received warnings and a short suspension. Stinky's Drama Queen post above would have had me laughing (as it does), with no moderator action taken. And Rob's calling someone a "crazy retard" after warnings and suspensions would have had him permanently banned.

If that's over-moderating, then you are all welcome to the wild-west community you seem to have. It's a testament to - well, something - that it hasn't degenerated to all-out nastiness and feuding around here. But "crazy" as my viewpoints may be (OMG, anti-nuclear weapons!!! What total freakishness!!!), I don't like being personally insulted for every post I make expressing those views.



And since there's no moderation on this board, I'll post in this YAGE thread as long as I please.

Don't worry, though ... just as I got bored sparring with Rob and Stinky, I'll soon get completely bored with YAGEing. Neither trading insults nor YAGEing are my style. I'll tire of the YAGE soon enough.



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Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen

It's a very uncharacteristic move for me, which is why this is my first (and hopefully only) YAGE. But I don't feel like I'm throwing away several months of community. It is, in fact, that I can't participate in this forum as a community that I am withdrawing.

Once I get comfortable at a message board, I feel like participating more in the general community - and not simply in the main topic (in this case, Star Wars). I like there to be a sense of actual community and comraderie. I don't like hostility. And while I don't expect individual members to rise to my maidenhood defense when I am unjustly attacked, I expect moderators to be around once in a while to see to that task. Because if a message board community is unmoderated, it WILL attract trolls and creeps.

So ... to me, an unmoderated message board community is no community at all. It's not that Rob or stinky dinkens are dickheads; it's that they are allowed to be so continuously. (And I did give 14-year-old WeShallPreserve a pass - - - note that I quoted nothing of him in my initial YAGE post, and my advice directed to him in this thread has been civil and respectful).


I'm sorry to be leaving ... but I can't continue here just posting about Star Wars alone. It gets old. With no more Star Wars on the horizon, it gets old fast. And, as I've posted before, I figured Star Wars talk to die completely once the upcoming 40th anniversary is over.

And so, I really had a desire to branch out into the larger community of general discussion. As a staunch liberal progressive, I am perfectly willing to exchange viewpoints and ideas with the majority conservative members. And perhaps if Rob and Stinky were trolls who did not post every two minutes to viciously and personally attack me after every single post I make, this would not have been that big a deal to me. I had fun dissing them back for 24 hours, but that's it. I don't want to be part of a community where I must deal with such immature hostility on a constant basis, if I want to discuss anything besides Star Wars.


And while I did have qualms about quid-pro-quo-ing by claiming Rob was gay, I personally am not responsible for him considering that an insult. I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay, and I did not call him a fag or a queer or anything of the sort. But, in my experience, anyone that homophobic is classically closet gay. I used a descriptive term and not an insult. The fact that Rob might take it as an insult is merely a part of his neurosis. But his personal problems do not make "gay" an insult. It's simply not.




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Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen



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Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
Sorry to re-post this from another thread, but I've never YAGEd before ... and since I'm unlikely to ever do it again ... I wanted to do it right, with it's own thread. Yeah, I know YAGEing is soooo lame and such bad form. But, well, here's why ...


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Differing opinions, you will discover when you grow past teenhood, are held by all sorts of people of different ages. Namecalling is pretty much restricted to people under 16 years old. (Usually under 9 years old, but on the internet, the maturity curve seems steeper.)

In any event, to foster a non-hostile atmosphere, most message boards are pretty strict about a no personal attacks, no namecalling policy. And that’s cause there’s a lot of incredibly rude and immature people on the internet, as you two have amply demonstrated.

And while it’s been fun for a while to diss back at you - without resorting to namecalling (fyi, Rob: even though I think you’re gay, I never called you “queer” or “fag”) ... but it’s grown tiresome really quick. I feel no need to read or post at a site where a zero moderation effort lets the worst-behaved internet posters have free reign. And I certainly feel no need to discuss serious stuff like warfare or political assassination with people whose debate styles runs to the type of quotes posted above. It's really not even fun talking Star Wars at a place so hostile.


Yeah, that means ... oh congratulate yourself boys ... you’ve run me off. Oh, whatever shall I do without originaltrilogy.com in my life? I’ll probably have to cry myself to sleep for a few nights, but I’ll eventually get over it. Maybe in a month or so. Or, more likely, in five minutes.


(YAGEing is such bad message board form. But, then again, so is allowing a free-for-all of personal attacks and childish namecalling. So what the heck? Might as well YAGE.)




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Originally posted by: ferris209
I will never understand how a man could look at those hotties from Kate's Playground and still be gay.

Originally posted by: bad_karma24


I don't know if I'd put it like that exactly, but as the video I made demonstrates that Oswald fired the fatal shot through elementary physics.

Originally posted by: Rob
Kennedy conspiracy theorist = complete f#@cking jackass
Obi Jeewhyen = Kennedy conspiracy theorist
Obi Jeewhyen = complete f#@cking jackass

I didn't want to come right out and call you a complete f#@cking jackass until I had concrete proof, but now I feel comfortable doing so.
By the way you were alive for the Kennedy assassination? I figured that you were around 13 or 14 years old, are you an old hippy burnout retard or something? Please let us now a little bit more about yourself. It is amazing that someone could be so ignorant and foolish across the board, I must know more about you, you intriguing dolt! At least let us now if you go all the way: Do you believe that the moon landing was a farse? I sure hope so, then you would really be something, some kind of super dunce!

Originally posted by: Tiptup
I have trouble believing that. I can't really see anything masculine on that body whatsoever. Maybe the jawline would reveal something (if I could see it better). I suppose its possible to have a guy with a very girly body though.

Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
Yes, I thought it was pretty well accepted that the Oswald "lone gunman" theory was pretty much discredited, by the evidence in your thread title - as well as so much more it has filled books and books of meticulous research..

Originally posted by: ZigFried
That actually makes me feel cozy inside.

Originally posted by: ZigFried
Just don't try and make me leave too

Originally posted by: ZigFried
I myself got in trouble at my library for looking at these

Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
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In the case of Japan during WWII, was it necessary to kill people with the atom bomb ... or would a less lethal demonstration of its ability to cause massive casualties have been sufficient? Would it have been more prudent to try a demonstration in less habited areas first, before going on to kill tens of thousands if the demonstation did not provoke surrender?
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Originally posted by: reave
kate. the best thing to come out of canada since....um....oh yeah, kids in the hall.