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Tatder said:

Hello.

Any news?

I don’t know that it’s related to this, but there is a Kostal Fantasia up on internet archive.

Thanks!

Thanks!

I transcoded the wave to 640kb ac3 and added it to my copy. Now my receiver plays it as intended and the sound is better than the previous ac3. Ignore my issue. Thanks for the hard work!

So after a bit of research I discovered VLC does not decode Dolby Pro logic. So while it decoded the AC3 file attached to version 2.0, it will not decode prologic from stereo. I would have to find a way to switch my Denon receiver to decode prologic while playing. Which I assume is possible. I’ve just never had need to do it before. So we’ll say it’s my setup.

I have not. I’ll look it up.

This is the 2.0
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1COuSRyJYecrWFc05fFt8TNed54hUUxwk/view?usp=drivesdk

This is 2.2
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CLL7qzdAii1ZdrKgFmzAH78iTtv7sx5K/view?usp=drivesdk

As shown by vlc.
Sorry for the inconvenience. I tried forcing surround in the menu, but it’s not the same.

Fantastic! So I just sat down to spend more time with this version. Vlc is not playing it back in surround like the other one did. Any suggestions?

CMGF said:

I didn’t like the Kostal recording too, but the 1982 version itself is worth to preserve. However, someone is already doing this:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Sleeping-Beauty-1959-and-Fantasia-Kostal-1982-35mm-Help-Needed-a-WIP/id/61828

Great job! Any chance anyone could assemble the Kostel audio as an alternate. I hated the CDs but am curious how it played with the film.

I see what your saying. I don’t remember it as dark. I’m more referring to the saturation levels. It was colorful… Moreso than the bluray. I just skimmed your new version and I have zero complaints. You did a great job.

Fascinating. I haven’t seen the Thunderbean 35mm release, and will look for it. But my memory of 1990 is more in line with this laserdisc presentation than the bluray visually. I fully acknowledge that may not be the most accurate color grading if a 35mm print suggests otherwise.

CMGF said:

Yeah I was talking about the video, audio wise the LD is absulutely way better than the blu ray. Video wise, the Blu Ray was retouched to not look filmy, which caused it to loose some details, so in many aspects the Blu Ray is really messed up. But color wise if you compare it to the recent Thunderbean 35mm release it looks surprisingly close to it, most of the time. This is why I asked. I know the laserdisc is better, especially because the audio in it is a recreation of the original Fantasound.

CMGF said:
If you have seen it in the theaters back then in 1990, do you remember by any chance anything further on how it looked? Were the colors identical to the LD or bright as the 35mm release and Blu Ray? (Well actually 35mm is even brighter and more detailed than blu)

I was a teenager… But to me the laserdisc restoration looks the way I remember it. Of course that was just one reissue in 1990, but they put a lot of work into it. And I was excited to get the VHS at the time. One interesting thing about it was that Disney installed extra screen at the top and bottom of our AMC Theater locally so that they could show it at full size in original aspect ratio. That required a special lens on the projector as well. Of course we got those really nice program books for attending. I just know that I’m a very big proponent for the absolute most modern technology but nothing has been more unsatisfying to me then the Blu-ray release of Fantasia. If you want one example of why the laser disc is better, the fact that the choir enters from the rear of the theater during Ave Maria is all you need to know. The Blu-ray doesn’t do that and I can’t understand for the life of me why not.

You fixed Fantasia! This audio sounds how it’s supposed to. I immediately went to Night on Bald Mountain and Ave Maria. It sounds like my vinyl and the rears are the way I remember from 1990 (and as described in accounts of Fantasound). Made me teary…
Thanks.

Croweyes1121 said:

v2.0 in progress. All I’ll say right now is that it will leave v1.0 utterly in the dust.

The TV scenes are still 4:3, but that’s where the bad news ends.

Wahooo!
Thanks for your work!

I purchased this reel. It appears to be reel 1 as it starts with the gorn. I don’t have a film scanner unfortunately.
Stephen

SilverWook said:

There’s a 16mm reel on ebay at the moment…
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124753075446

I don’t think you understand the point of preservation. It’s not about your agreeing with the content.

JayArgonaut said:

BestArchivist15 said:

I am also wondering if anyone would happen to have a watermarkless version of the episode guest starring Chris Langham from Season 5.

Disney have pulled the episode because Langham is a convicted sex offender who was incarcerated for downloading and watching clips on multiple computers of little girls being raped. You want to preserve and share a pulled TV episode featuring a guest appearance of this man? Do you really not see that this is wrong?

I’m not sure what’s worse: the intent - or the justifications and mental gymnastics (probably whatabouttery citing Polanski) that are bound to ensue.

Mods: if you temp-ban me, fine - but this is messed up on so many levels.

Just a bump to see if anyone has done any cleaning of the footage?

I’d like to donate as well.

Thanks for this!

Thanks!

I’m so psyched for this! Thanks from a big organ fan. (not the way it sounded)

Thanks to Marcello. I’d love to see the original reels preserved as intended at some point in the future before they crumble…

I’m new to this thread. Did a best case scenerio for these materials find a concensus? Mr. Coleslaw’s or the russian set? Thanks!

Is this still in progress? Thanks for your hard work!

Im definitely following this. BTW… the original NY presentation had speakers all down the side and back. The live panning could go anywhere in the room.