Stampid

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Join date: 26-May-2005
Last activity: 28-Jun-2005
Posts: 27

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Post: #119070
Topic: A revised opinion of George Lucas
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119070/action/topic#119070
Time: 27-Jun-2005 6:45 PM

Is it a sin that Lucas' desire to tinker with his movies outweighs this so-called responsibility for his fans and lmasterpieces that he never saw? Fans serve themselves well enough, they dont need to be the deciding factor in George's movies.

And I would agree that Lucas made some poor decisions, but I accept the good points of them. I don't take it that serious. I have fun.

Post: #118686
Topic: Most Powerful Quote in all the Star Wars films.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118686/action/topic#118686
Time: 26-Jun-2005 7:31 PM

If you mean that kind of power, that would have to go most of the dialog in episode 4 for me.

The Toshi station line IS classic though. Its not only quotable, but its fun to say.

Post: #118670
Topic: I haven't watched a SW movie since midnight ROTS
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118670/action/topic#118670
Time: 26-Jun-2005 6:50 PM

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Originally posted by: BatmanMD
I was there with Greencapt opening night for both AOTC and ROTS. I actually think I liked AOTC better than ROTS. I just can't put my finger on it. After ROTS, I really had no desire to go out and see it again. Very unlike a Star Wars fan. I had been building up all this hope for the epic duel between Anakin and Ben, but it just felt a little flat. I know it was a "fancy" saber fight, etc., but I thought the fights in Empire, Jedi, and the Maul fight were better. More "weight" to them I guess. Lucas screwed himself by letting TPM be almost completely an introduction film that really didn't advance the story that much, and left ROTS to tie up a bunch of loose ends really quickly. Bad planning in my opinion.

I'm going to have to disagree. The two trilogies basically tell different stories. The subplot between Anakin and Palpatine is good enough to tie the two together, but basically the idea of the prequel trilogy (not to say its a perfect story) was done fairly well, in an awkward very Star Wars sort of way. Long, political, action-filled, sci fi fantasy, eye candy.

Post: #118668
Topic: The Prequels - my personal opinion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118668/action/topic#118668
Time: 26-Jun-2005 6:33 PM

It's from a musical number in 1776. The man in Warbler's avatar (John Adams in the film) would later play "Mr. Feeny" in Boy Meets World. I've been right all along, I suppose Warbler didn't catch the Mr. Feeny reference. Maybe I'm much too young.

"Will someone shut that man up!?"

Post: #118666
Topic: Padme's grave - is it mentioned in the EU / novels?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118666/action/topic#118666
Time: 26-Jun-2005 6:28 PM

I havent read the book, but I know theres one where Leia and Han (or Luke... somebody) goes back to Tatooine and do some research about Anakin. They find out about his mother, and Anakin's massacre and how that related to Beru and Lars.... honestly, I don't remember how that all worked out in the PT myself...

Is Lars still related to Obi Wan, or was that idea scratched when AOTC came out???

Post: #118459
Topic: The Prequels - my personal opinion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118459/action/topic#118459
Time: 25-Jun-2005 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by: Warbler
to the right, ever to the right, never to the left, forever to the right....

I'll bet you'll never guess where that quote comes from.

I thought that guy in your avatar looked like Mr. Feeney. I've seen that movie a zillion times, but for some reason I dont recall that line.

Post: #118032
Topic: The Prequels - my personal opinion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118032/action/topic#118032
Time: 23-Jun-2005 10:04 PM

Damon, I am the same age as you, and I had the very same experience. Episode 3 probably saved the series for a lot of people. there's still some bad dialog, but i can forgive that now. hey, i learned to enjoy the OT's flaws after hundreds of viewings, and i'm even beginning to like JarJar.

Now, if only George could stop doing those bad things to the OT...

Post: #117705
Topic: I haven't watched a SW movie since midnight ROTS
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117705/action/topic#117705
Time: 22-Jun-2005 8:33 PM

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Originally posted by: DarthAstuart
stampid, i know how you feel...i too abandoned the first two prequels and was surprised at how emotionally involved I became with ROTS. it also helped me hate Lucas less...he stopped being this huge pariah in my mind and became more of a filmmaker who's had a really rough time making a good movie in, oh, fifteen years or so.

it's hard to reconcile the first two prequels with ROTS, because I do dislike them so much, and like the latest one. it feels...weird. i never expected to have any new star wars I could stomach watching.

thanks, i knew i wasnt the only one
Last night I rented TPM and I noticed just how visually beautiful all of it was. Though I still havent found a copy of AOTC, I have a feeling that the main problem with the first 2 sequels was that George was trying to tell too many stories, and became much too involved in subplots and new characters. Jar-Jar himself as a stand-alone character is really interesting (possibly not the right word), but overall not important to the story. He's not as fake-looking as I remember him to be.
I never watched the prequels as much as the OT, and having payed careful attention and repeated viewings of TPM, I've come to peace with it much moreso than ROTJ. The pod race scene is pretty perfect, and I'm sure most of us agree that the darth Maul fight is one of the best in the entire series, and the other scenes are either stunning visuals are an attempt to introduce the characters and circumstances of the prequels. Just my careful new impressions of the story. Lucas definately tried to tell a different kind of story than the OT, and maybe the difference between the first two prequels and the third is supposed to be as noticable as it is. There's an innocent fairy tale, where the some of heroes don't even have to intentionally defeat their enemies. A story about heroes who start to realize that they're being manipulated, but their suspicions are ingored once war begins, and right when they're beginning to realize that they've been fooled, they're wiped out. Doesn't make for the best movies, but it definately has a dramatic payoff.

I've yet to re-evaluate AOTC. I really can't wait to just sit and watch it. Blockbuster's new "No Late Fee" policy is convenient, but it also means that folks never return the damn DVDs!

Post: #117688
Topic: Most Powerful Quote in all the Star Wars films.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117688/action/topic#117688
Time: 22-Jun-2005 7:48 PM

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Originally posted by: oojason
something by R2D2

Definately his line as C3PO turns his back on him after they land on Tattooine. I don't know what he was saying exactly, but it was GANGSTA!

Post: #117676
Topic: I haven't watched a SW movie since midnight ROTS
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117676/action/topic#117676
Time: 22-Jun-2005 7:23 PM

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Originally posted by: Shimraa
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
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Originally posted by: Shimraa
and man the similarities between obiwan pt and ot are uncanny i had no idea how well ewan nailed it, but it is easily believable that the obiwan in the ot is the same as the obiwan in the pt.

Too bad that in the 19 years between ROTS and ANH Obi-Wan ages so badly. Oh, no offense mr. Guiness, wherever you are.

he went from like 35 too 55

i can see the aging there.

Definately, I have seen some horrible things happen in that amount of time. Even less. I may look no further than my parents... considering the greif for a once great Jedi establishment, the constant threat of imperials, a Jedi's endless wait for a mission, and living in exile on harsh planets, its no wonder Ben and Yoda seem a tad winkled, worn and loony.

Post: #117671
Topic: I haven't watched a SW movie since midnight ROTS
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/117671/action/topic#117671
Time: 22-Jun-2005 7:17 PM

I used to be a real happy SW kid. I taped the OOT off of TV when I was 7, mom bought the Star Wars Encyclopedia when I was 8, I curled the pages of that thing into paper fluff in a matter of weeks, and continued to be a hardcore fan until I was 12. I bought the Episode 1 screenplay a couple weeks early and couldnt decifer any of the dialog, and by the time I got to Jar-Jar's dialog I gave up. I must have been wondering what the hell "bombad" was supposed to mean. I'm still a little confused where Lucas even came up with that one.
I watched TPM twice at the Zeigfeild in Manhattan. The first time I was just happy to see some Star Wars. The second time I was just OK with it, and by the time the VHS came out, I realized there were only 2 sequences I liked. The podrace and the lightsaber duel. Overall, it killed my dwindling interest in Star Wars to near nothing, because my usual hunger for SW was not being satiated by new star wars literature and technical guides about a movie I wasn't so keen on.

I watched AOTC once in theaters (i walked to the theater after a hard day, and i was surprised it wasnt crowded), opening day after school. It wad fun for me because I hadn't seen Star Wars in years, but for some reason I never made it back. I rented it once and Natalie Portman's nipples were missing, and I was devastated and I don't even think I finished watching it. (I'm only kidding... maybe)

My roommate in college (a regular on this board) had all his DVD's at my fingertips, and he let me watch the Balance of the Force, and Clone Wars and in a way that just made me resent the Prequels more. I do enjoy MagFan's work though, and plan to follow it.

I watched ROTS (the tuesday after it came out, coincidentally another hard day), and sat back as this movie somehow made me grieve for the prequel characters i never even cared for, and ripped my heart out watching them being killed, defeated, and decieved by an evil politician. It was like reliving 9/11, except I knew everyone. I cried a WHOLE LOT. I know somebody else must have experienced something close to what I felt watching ROTS.

When I got home, my interest in Star Wars was rekindled. I forgave George Lucas, I forgave the first 2 prequel movies, and I can definately say that it actually enhanced my opinion of episode 4 (though I now think williams' interpretation of the imperial theme needs an update to match the rest of the movies). As a younger fan, I had a hard time watching A New Hope all the way through. I found it to be a bit predictable, but considering its placement after Episode 3, its a rush of good natured hero vs. villain action cinema.

Recently, I watched the original Episode 4, four times in a row. I mean, I watched it three times in a row one night, went to bed, and watched it again. I would have gone on if I didn't have other things I had to do, but in a way, ROTS made me rejoyce every time the Death Star blew up, and revel in the magic of the End Credit music more than I ever did when I was 8.

So I'd have to reccomend ROTS to anyone who really LOVES Star Wars to the point you SMILE every time Luke does, and get the giggles every time R2 makes a insulting remark at C3PO. It's a hard movie to watch once everything's set in motion, but I think it makes episode 4 feel even better than it used to.

Sorry if you don't like endless rants about my sad devotion to an ancient religion.

PS: I started reading the EU stuff again and this time I'm old enough to know it's completely unhealthy, but it isn't really? Right?

PPS: What's this list you speak of, Hardcore Legend?

Post: #116864
Topic: MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116864/action/topic#116864
Time: 20-Jun-2005 4:36 PM

The technique you used seems especially unnatural in the senate scenes. The aliens' voice reversal doesn't jive with the reverb effects in the scene.

I believe someone brought this up once, and you said that you had recently fixed that problem, but I may be mistaken.

Post: #116667
Topic: MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116667/action/topic#116667
Time: 19-Jun-2005 10:25 PM

BOTF is completely done? What about a digital Yoda? Not part of the plan?

I know this was probably addressed before, but was the reverse echo problem fixed in the senate hall scenes?

Post: #116517
Topic: So why Define STAR WARS as OT OR PT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116517/action/topic#116517
Time: 18-Jun-2005 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by: Tony
I will never say Prequel Trilogy or Original Trilogy

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Originally posted by: Tony
Prequel Trilogy... Original Trilogy

Post: #116516
Topic: So why Define STAR WARS as OT OR PT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116516/action/topic#116516
Time: 18-Jun-2005 11:20 PM

Han isn't really dodging that blast easily. If you notice, he takes his endless badass essence and conjurs up a computer-generated action, and then he smokes Greedo. I liked it when the screen filled with sparks and gave us a Fried Green Rodian. Just a personal preference. If I make any edits of the trilogy, I'd get rid of this ridiculous and pointless special effect, as well as Jthe cruddy-looking Jabba scene.

Also, Jabba's appearance in Episode one really doesn't exist to many folks here. To some of us, Epsisode 1 doesnt exist. To others, we rely on MagFan's talents to deliver the good edits.

PS: I also like the deleted scenes in the prequels. I actually like Jarjar's waterfall sequence, but I'm not sure why! Heck, I even like Jarjar, just not his goofy "tongue" scenes.

Hey, I watched the original Star Wars three times tonight. I'm a sick person like everybody else now!

Post: #116504
Topic: So why Define STAR WARS as OT OR PT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116504/action/topic#116504
Time: 18-Jun-2005 10:38 PM

Tony, I became a fan around the same time you did, and I find I share many of your viewpoints. I too find the original film trilogy to be highly overrated (especially Jedi now that I'm older) and the the prequel films should be considered more.
However, the posters of this forum do make as many good points. They will probably just have to live with the newer films and treat them the way most treat the Expanded Universe stories.
I have a few ideas for fan edits (though currently I don't have the technology, much less the time, nor experience to pull it off).
One of an isolated original trilogy (probably edited DOWN from the upcoming final edits mixed with previous cuts) to include the more desirable special effects while restoring the original revelation of the Falcon (Jabba is too gangsta to get stepped on like one guy pointed out), Han's blast, original sarlacc (the new one bugs me! was that in the SE? I don't remember), and the original Anakin. You know, the "aint broke" stuff.
The second a 6-film would include these same changes, with the inclusion of deleted scenes from the prequelsminus a few cheap giggles from Jarjar (the poo-butt joke, the "my tongue" bit, and boss nass' floppy cheeks) and some of lil' Annie's dialog (this is pod racing, yippee, it's working, oops... goddamn Jake Lloyd).

Actually, these edits are so minor that I'm confused why George Lucas wouldnt have fixed these silly silly things by now, but he probably won't. We'll see how it turns out. Hopefully Lucas will do SOMETHING to fit the movies together, and have the sense to make the ANH jabba scene a bonus rather than to exist in the film).

To Tony, as much as you accuse the old school fans of holding on too tightly to their childhood, you seem to protect George's "True Star Wars Story" with as much passion. I like to keep in mind that the Star Wars universe is subject to endless imagination. Nothing in Star Wars has ever been official, and I'm sure that even after the 30th Anniversary, we'll find continuity disaggreements, not to mention bad acting and mistakes. BTW, did they ever fix the mirror-image Boba Fett?

Post: #113267
Topic: Midicholorians
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113267/action/topic#113267
Time: 8-Jun-2005 12:47 PM

Not to defend midichlorians, but maybe those "living things" that create the force (ANH novelization) are midichlorians. Kind of like a spiritual presence, but on a molecular level. If the force is within us, then we can be in touch the force outside of us. Just a theory.

Post: #112057
Topic: "Hoooow is that possible..."
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112057/action/topic#112057
Time: 4-Jun-2005 10:35 PM

I can feel Star Wars (ANH) age every moment that passes by.

Post: #111392
Topic: ROTS: I'm gonna get my fur kicked for this
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/111392/action/topic#111392
Time: 2-Jun-2005 11:31 PM

My main problem with the Ewok sequences is the fact that not only do Han and Luke get tied up by the Ewoks, but Chewbacca??? The same wookie that can tear the arms off a gundark cant even break free of little ropes or fight off a few fuzzy teddy bears???

Post: #110014
Topic: Natalie Portman Goes CUEBALL!!!!!!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110014/action/topic#110014
Time: 29-May-2005 2:01 PM

If you have an attention span to read fanboys complain about SE's and PT's, you probably don't mind reading a few curse words. All I have to say is that when I saw AOTC in the theaters, I could have sworn I saw Portman's nipples just sticking out of that white outfit of hers, and when I rented the DVD I was greatly disappointed and I havent watched it since.

Post: #109923
Topic: What did you think the Clone Wars were gonna be?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/109923/action/topic#109923
Time: 28-May-2005 10:27 PM

This was always a vague detail n my mind. My idea of the prequel trilogy had a bunch of clones on both sides and ben fighting anakin on a volcano. i was kind of dumbfounded at the plot of Episode 2. A surprise, but still sort of interesting. Tall alien lady explained everything. She looks sooo Pixar.

Post: #109900
Topic: Which of the 6 films is your favorite?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/109900/action/topic#109900
Time: 28-May-2005 8:28 PM

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Originally posted by: Warbler
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Originally posted by: Stampid
. Hopefully, Williams has been asked to compose some new stuff for A New Hope

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New Hope score could use a couple retouches. You can't tell me it's perfect. Half of that shit sounds like Planet of the Apes. I'm sure even John Williams would agree considering he's used Vader's signature music in all other 5 films.

EPISODE 4
Enter Vader
Cue generic bad-guy music

EPISODE 5
Cue IMPERIAL MARCH

I won't miss the throw-away 3-second villain fanfare. It never clicked with the other movies. If you're convinced otherwise, please explain to me WHY.

Post: #109899
Topic: Should Lucas replace Guiness with an aged McGregor?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/109899/action/topic#109899
Time: 28-May-2005 8:18 PM

I agree completely with THX's every statement. I did the same thing after seeing Episode 3 and I found the same problems. The current Empire Strikes Back looks very modern even today, and I'd never go for a CGI Yoda. I think some scenes could be spruced up with better special effects so it matches the prequels, which I'm sorry to say guys, is not nearly as bad as you think it is, especially compared with the original trilogy which has been placed on a pedestal of perfection. They're just movies! I don't think I've stayed awake or sat through through A New Hope since I saw it for the 49th time. Great story. Great characters. Wonderful movies, but not perfect. I'm open to any progression.
About Obi-Wan, McGregor looks and sounds like Alec Guiness more than I could ever imagine. That dude's crazy. CGI Yoda looks damn good, and they need to replace the TPM puppet. Never looked for moved right.

Post: #109465
Topic: The Prequel Curse
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/109465/action/topic#109465
Time: 26-May-2005 10:49 PM

I hope you guys dont mind my 2 cents. I'm 18. As a kid who grew up with star wars (age 8-11 most vigorous) I watched the original theatrical versions over and over followed by the special editions (this was very exciting but the jaba always looked too fake). When I saw TPM, it was like I had to move on. Sure, I had fun, but I really couldnt get involved with the characters, or fully understand the plot. I blame Lucas for his warped sense of screen writing (I'm no fan of scifi either). At any rate, I've watched TPM less than 10 times since it came out.
Fast forward to last tuesday. I watched Episode 3 and I can forgive the prequels because the whole time I wasn't seeing the entire story. Now, do I enjoy the original trilogy? Yes, but as a young person who broke ties with the story and made my peace with it, I've accepted the changes made to the original movies and the differences in the PT. I don't think that means I'm accepting "crap." To me it's the same crap you can find in the original trilogy. I hope the posters in this forum don't actually believe that the original trilogy is flawless... just that it should be available the same way other classic films are (at least A New Hope). Anyone who refuses to accept, or who isn't in any way satisfied with these new things Lucas has given us may feel this way because of a prolonged worship of these flawed, and somewhat dated films. These films belong to Lucas, and his main objective is to make the story he wanted to, and I think he should have freedom to complete it the way he wants. If it means an extra scene with Han and Jabba, I can accept it because it helps introduce the character who for 3 films previous wasnt seen and is now going to be a main character in the second trilogy. If that means an extra scene with the Emporor in Episode 4, I say go for it. A New Hope as it stands in the vast scheme of things isn't going to flow well with the other movies. As a revived fan, I want to see this story unfold.
What's really important is that the characters, the story, and the music are there. Can anyone really complain about the music in the prequel trilogy? In some respects, I think it's better than the originals. Do I REALLY care that Boba Fett's voice is different? Well, maybe a little bit, but I don't mind that much if it takes me back to Epside 2 for a moment. Maybe what it comes down to is that if you've become attached to something so much for over 20-30-40 years (is this healthy? i'm too young to know), you're not going to want to see these changes. I think that if Lucas really wants to, he'll accomplish the real thing.
Heh. 2 cents is probably easier to digest than that. Take it or leave it.

Post: #109457
Topic: Which of the 6 films is your favorite?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/109457/action/topic#109457
Time: 26-May-2005 10:04 PM

ESB always. Stylisticly the most interesting to me. The only Star Wars film with half-decent dialog. Fun and tragic. The details of the force.
Sith is another magic movie. A Return of the Jedi with a more interesting story. I actually cried for about 40% of the time the first time I watched it. Just gut wrenchingly ugly and tragic. So in short...

Empire
Sith
Hope
Menace
Jedi
Clones

No offense to Jedi, but I feel it drags too much in the middle. Hopefully, Williams has been asked to compose some new stuff for A New Hope, because I think it's too detached to the overall story right now. Very impressed with the outcome of all the movies stringed together.