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#1350378
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The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit (WIP)
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Lifeincontext said:

Lifeincontext said:

Spottyfriend said:

Lifeincontext said:

Here’s a new version of the ending. Based on some feedback, I tried to find an effective new arrangement of the Tatooine/Broom Boy clips. I found a moment I thought was interesting. Let me know what you guys think!

https://vimeo.com/418754884
PW: fanedit

This is great!

Really sorry to be THAT guy (!), but I’m still not entirely sure the initial Broom Boy scene placement fully works pacing-wise. It’s definitely a very cool idea: while Rey pauses, considering her place in the galaxy and Luke’s legacy, this is then mirrored by seeing Luke’s legacy in action, inspiring hope; we cut back to Rey taking the Skywalker name and effectively concluding her and Luke’s arc - great stuff! However, I feel like cutting away to Broom Boy stuff for 30 seconds effectively in the middle of a conversation (“who are you?” / “Rey Skywalker”), doesn’t quite work and feels a bit choppy. We’re expecting an answer from Rey, and instead we cut away to a totally different scene which we’ve never seen before (unlike in your previous version, where we are introduced to the Broom Boy scene in much more of a natural break).

Again, sorry for the lack of solutions!

Haha! Well I will say that I tried several other places For the broom boy stuff to go, but there really wasn’t a more natural fit that met both of your criteria lol. But I’ll take another look. 😃

Between the two options already presented, which feels better as a viewer?

Perhaps I’m in the minority? But I actually prefer the first version in terms of Broom Boy/Rey scene placement. I think it succeeds in telling the viewer at near the beginning - ‘we’re gonna be cutting between two scenes in this sequence’ - by showing both relatively early. It’s more natural than the second version, although there’s still the problem of the length of time between the introduction and conclusion of the Broom Boy section.

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#1349659
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit (WIP)
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Lifeincontext said:

Here’s a new version of the ending. Based on some feedback, I tried to find an effective new arrangement of the Tatooine/Broom Boy clips. I found a moment I thought was interesting. Let me know what you guys think!

https://vimeo.com/418754884
PW: fanedit

This is great!

Really sorry to be THAT guy (!), but I’m still not entirely sure the initial Broom Boy scene placement fully works pacing-wise. It’s definitely a very cool idea: while Rey pauses, considering her place in the galaxy and Luke’s legacy, this is then mirrored by seeing Luke’s legacy in action, inspiring hope; we cut back to Rey taking the Skywalker name and effectively concluding her and Luke’s arc - great stuff! However, I feel like cutting away to Broom Boy stuff for 30 seconds effectively in the middle of a conversation (“who are you?” / “Rey Skywalker”), doesn’t quite work and feels a bit choppy. We’re expecting an answer from Rey, and instead we cut away to a totally different scene which we’ve never seen before (unlike in your previous version, where we are introduced to the Broom Boy scene in much more of a natural break).

Again, sorry for the lack of solutions!

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#1348346
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit (WIP)
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Watching the latest version of the end again, I really think it’s an excellent way to end the sequel(s) (and I feel myself tearing up a little with the Rey Skywalker/Broom Boy sequence, which is great because I felt nothing watching the former as part of tRoS). Another bit of feedback, which again apologies for not suggesting an actual solution to this, is that it feels a bit jarring leaving Broom Boy at 5:26 and having a full two minutes (and within that a short flashback) to spend with Rey, only returning to him at 7:30. It feels a little too long to be able to come back and simply continue on with the Broom Boy scene as smoothly as a viewer might like.

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#1348263
Topic
The Last Jedi: A ST One-Film Edit (WIP)
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Lifeincontext said:

Ending V2

https://vimeo.com/419869547
PW: fanedit

See above post for a play-by-play.

Also, parts of it are still very rough. Apologies.

I’m watching this as someone who knows nothing about editing, but it feels a bit odd, right the end, for the Falcon to appear to go into hyperspace in the Tatooine shot with the twin suns, and then appear to do so again when broom boy is looking up. Have we jumped slightly back in time at the beginning of broom boy’s last scene? Or is the Falcon jumping twice for some reason? Like I say, I’m just a viewer not a creator, but it feels a little odd for me.

I really appreciate you doing this though! It’s a fantastic idea!

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#1308992
Topic
<em>The Empire Strikes Back</em> has a similar problem to <em>The Force Awakens</em>, and it isn't really talked about that much.
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I actually do agree with TNT2 and, frankly, if they were gonna make any sequels, it’d be a hard sell not to have some kind of Empire, given the cultural recognisability of the Stormtrooper look etc. Hell, even the post-ROTJ EU books, which didn’t have to worry so much about huge financial turnaround, focussed on Empire stuff until the end of the 90s.

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#1308988
Topic
<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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RogueLeader said:

This seems to be a different faction of Mandalorians than the ones we have seen before. Perhaps they still follow the ancient traditions of Mandalore whereas the majority of Mandos, like the ones from Clone Wars and Rebels, have become more progressive over the centuries. In a conversation with a friend I joking referred to the Mando’s tribe as “The Amish of Mandalorians”.

Comparing Mandalorians to Christians seems like a weird comparison, but I think it could help get the point across.

The New Mandalorians like Satine Kryze and her pacifist faction would be like modern secular Christianity, which fought against the traditions of Mandalore, which would be like your typical conservative Christian beliefs (gay marriage, pro-life vs pro-choice, etc.).
Death Watch would be like radical Christian extremists, fighting to preserve their traditions but going overboard with it. Their attempted coup in the Clone Wars could be compared to Gilead from The Handmaid’s Tale.
The Tribe from The Mandalorian might be a decent comparison to Old Order Amish, who still live and practice older Christian traditions in isolation and breaking those traditions could result in exile or ostracism, beliefs which might seem excessive to even the modern conservative Christian (Clan Wren and the other Clans we see in Rebels as an example, since they seem to remove their helmets without issue, but still follow their traditions more-so than Satine’s faction did).

At first I thought The Tribe’s fundamentalist beliefs might’ve been a reaction to the possible failed rebellion that Rebels was setting up, but in Chapter 4, Mando said he had not shown anyone his face since he was adopted by The Tribe, so their practices would predate the Empire. I could be totally off-base, but the idea of varying “denominations” of Mandalorians coexisting would be pretty interesting to me and make them seem more like a living, fluid culture rather than a two-dimensional “warrior race”.

I felt like it is being hinted that ‘the purge’ is something that happened to the Mandalorians during imperial rule that meant that they were pushed underground. The ultra-strict culture that our Mando is part of is just the result of the socio-cultural changes post-purge.

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#1308786
Topic
Ultimate Machete Order (with Sequel Trilogy)
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matt1618 said:

I think the O.P.'s order is the best. If you’ve never read the original rationale for the Machete Order or it’s update in light of the sequal trilogy, check it out:
https://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2015/12/28/machete-order-update-and-faq/

The originator of Machete Order, Rod Hilton, actually suggests approaching Ep 1, Solo, Rogue One, and the shows as Anthology material to be watched in any order at another time than the other main eps. because they don’t directly serve Luke’s story.

I’m also in favour of this approach - this is what I’ve said to several of my non-Star-Wars-y friends.

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#1308762
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The sexy Bill Will (Billy Dee Williams) Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DuracellEnergizer said:

oojason said:

Star Wars Billy Dee Williams Uses Both Male and Female Pronouns’:-

https://www.out.com/celebs/2019/11/30/star-wars-billy-dee-williams-comes-out-gender-fluid

I’m less surprised by this than I thought I would be. He does radiate subtle “mama bear” vibes.

We stan Mama Bear Calrissian!

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#1307380
Topic
Episode IX : <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> - film &amp; fan art, + covers etc
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Force-Abel said:

^ by Spirit–Of-Adventure - reminds me of the 1997 SE posters by Drew Struzan

https://www.deviantart.com/spirit--of-adventure/art/The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Mural-Wallpaper-809997290 - with more posters for the other films and Star Wars releases 😃

Wow I love this one! My main qualm with the posters of the sequels is that they have no consistency, unlike the PT and OT. Which I think is a big shame. It’d great if this was the style of the whole trilogy.

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#1306699
Topic
Worst Ideas in Star Wars/Good Ideas that went Horribly Wrong
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Slavicuss said:

Qui-Gon Jinn wasn’t necessary. All that was needed was Obi-wan and Anakin. The prequels could have begun with them already Master and apprentice, building their bond right from the beginning of Ep. 1 - instead of pissing away the first chapter on a little boy and his mom.

Obi-Wan should have been older, and already a Jedi Master in Ep. 1, and Anakin, a teenager not a small boy.

Lucas traveled too far back into Anakin’s past for the prequels. We could have been spared all the childish crap that swamped Ep. 1.

Completed agreed. That’s why I am a fan of (much of) Clone Wars - it does what the Prequel Trilogy should have been all about: Anakin and Obi-Wan’s relationship. Also, this is why the Machete Order is the superior watching order - it skips Ep. 1 and is better for it!