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#75420
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Original Trilogy set I made from Laser Disc to DVD (using the Faces LDs) (Released)
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I fixed the lock up problem from the edit parts of the movie where the LDs get flipped. Before I was editting with MPEG2VCR and join the files back to make one big file. This was a problem with old DVD players about six or so years. This is how I fixed the problem with my Panasonic E80. I first recorder to the hard drive. I can record to DVD-RAM but have read that at the end of the disc the bitrate may drop to keep with the time settings. So i record to the hard drive first. Then dubbed to DVD-RAM there is no recoding going from hard drive to DVD-RAM. DVD-RAM or if you have a recorder that uses DVD-RW they use a VRO file. Ever thing is in one file system. I then went to the DVD-RAM and editted out the laserDisc flips. It deletes that part of the file you do not want. Then took it back to the PC and use MPEF2VCR and "DeMultiplexer" the file. Reason for doing this you can not play back the file right after delete after you do any thing to the VRO file. You also have to do this if you record in FR mode if you have two or more rcordings in the VRO file. Then I "Multipexer" the file to together. "DeMultiplexer" what it does it split the Video and audio into two files and "Multipexer" put the two files back together. There is a small light pause in the flips. But this copy will play in any DVD player that can play DVD-R.

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#75378
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Original Trilogy set I made from Laser Disc to DVD (using the Faces LDs) (Released)
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"Rikter" They way you record Closed Caption subtitles. Is with a DVD recorder or VCR. So far there is no PC capture card that can record them with the MPEG 2. ATI AIW can capture them to a text file but not in the MPEG 2. Closed Caption is in the picture not the audio. One reason I think PC capture cards are not that good is that they do not line up the picture just right. I have found this when playing back my files with PowerDVD.

As for the audio its 256 kbps DD 2.0

I also want to update that when join two MPEG 2 files with MPEG2VCR there is a lock up on old DVD players. Very old DVD player. I have one of the first Sony DVD players. it has also had problems with Lord Of the Rings the real copy not the back up. I have test my back up of Star Wars on APEX Panasonic Playstation 2 and Pioneer no problems. I did a test on another sony player a newer one about a year or two old after the second break you see some green blocks. Seems funny that Sonys Playstation 2 did a better job then a stand alone sony DVD player. So the only problem that really big is my old six or seven year old sony DVD player.

Also I did make a back up set with my Panasonic E80 using FR mode this set was made about a year ago this set has no problems with play back on my Sony DVD player.

I will rate my SP copies If laser Disc copies are a 10 then my SP copy would be a 9.5 my FR mode copies would be 9.3

Yes the Sp copies are little better but after watching them again and taken a second look FR copy is very close second. But if you are going to make a FR copy and dub down do it in the one hour mode XP.
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#75161
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Original Trilogy set I made from Laser Disc to DVD (using the Faces LDs) (Released)
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I have to ask you a few technigcal questions about your set that have been burning me up.

#1 - What recoding mode did you select when your recorded this to your Panasonic DMR-E80 - Did you use the "FR" setting?

#2 - Can you please use a program based DVD player like say.. "Bitrate Viewer" and give us the lowdown on the set?


1- I use SP recording mode to capture Star Wars I did not use FR mode. When making copies your better off just pick a recording mode then FR. Most people think if they record in XP mode and dub down it give a better picture not true it's like hooking up two DVD players and making another copy or two VCRs.

2-Bitrate taken from "BITRATE VIEWER" CURRENT 4390, PEAK 7861, AVERAGE 4024



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#75123
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Info: Star Wars Laser Disc 1989 I found the same problem in the 1992 version "Incredible Shrinking Ratio"
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This site says that the 1992 version fixed the Wide Screen problem “Incredible Shrinking Ratio” http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep4.htm that the problem got fixed in the 1992 release of Star Wars on LaserDisc. Well I check my 1992 version and it has the same problem the “Incredible Shrinking Ratio” I check the jacket of the cover its says 1992 but I bought these used at the laserDisc store I shopped at years ago may be they change the Disc. I looked at the Disc and they also say 1992. If any one can please check there LaserDisc and see if they have this problem please let me know.

WHAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN: The letterboxed Japanese transfer was used to create this edition and since the picture on that had been shifted up, some slight re-adjustment was necessary to equalize the letterbox bands and place the 2.35 frame closer to the center. How this was done was through a “controlled video scroll” (like adjusting the vertical hold on an older TV set) to move the picture to the approximate center of the screen. The top of the frame, now vacant of the original picture, was matted over with a black letterbox band. Now here’s the kicker: since this was all done by eye, at some point during this correction process the top letterbox band began over-matting onto the top edge of the picture. This essentially changed the aspect ratio of the film midway! To check for yourselves, grab this laserdisc and chapter to the cantina sequence. Go up to your screen and mark where the top letterbox band meets the top of the picture frame. At the point Greedo gets shot, the top black band will creep down lower than its original position. And to make matters worse, this happens a second time somewhere during the course of the film. So by the point the rebels are preparing to attack the Death Star, the film’s aspect ratio has changed from 2.35:1 to 2.55:1. This “Incredible Shrinking Ratio” was later corrected in 1992 and issued on both VHS and laserdisc. See below for that [ Very Special Thanks to David C. Fein ]

And I foudn the same problem in the 1992 release. The only thing I can think of FOX had some old LaserDisc and thet slapped new labs on they to sell.

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#74924
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Info: Star Wars Video release info - from 1982 to 2004 and ongoing (DavisDVD.com)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74924/action/topic#74924
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If you need any info on Video’s of Star Wars this is a great site to check out

http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep4.htm

 

Mod Edit: working links can be found below:-

SW: https://web.archive.org/web/20060206031246/http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep4.htm

ESB: https://web.archive.org/web/20050924185548/http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep5.htm

ROTJ: https://web.archive.org/web/20050924185726/http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep6.htm

Misc: https://web.archive.org/web/20060206024552/http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep_misc.htm

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#74746
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Original Trilogy set I made from Laser Disc to DVD (using the Faces LDs) (Released)
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Its sony DVD player I found out that they set there colors different then other companies. Pioneer APEX JVC color setting are the same. Sony are set different so the color looks more like film. I have alway found Sony DVD player to have less pop on there colors. Thats why you have to set the color your self on SONY DVD players. It has nothing to do with my set. Its the DVD play. DVD look bad on Sony. If you like nice color pop you have to set it your self.
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#74458
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Original Trilogy set I made from Laser Disc to DVD (using the Faces LDs) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/74458/action/topic#74458
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Star Wars on LD does show it age as a old movie. And MPEG 2 play back might not look so good after the capture of the video. If your making your own set play back the DVD in a new DVD player. My E80 makes the video look just like the LD. But when I play it back in my Pioneer JVC or APEX the color pop out very nice. My LD's look very nice if you just watch the LD's but you do see a drop when you have play them back on my E80. It does not look bad. But when you play it back in another DVD player that fixs the black level problem that Laer Disc has the color pop of the screen so nice. so play your Star Wars in other DVD players
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#74412
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Info Wanted: People in North America - are any of you using the PAL LD's?
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I was wondering if any one in NTSC land went out and bought a PAL LaserDisc Play and PAL LD’s of Star Wars? I have notice a small problem when using PC capture cards if you turn on the brightness you might find two blue bars and two red bars. Two bars kind of look like one bar. I have seen this on ATI AIW and Dazzle 2. I also seen it on old Sega Genesis when they made the system smaller. I think its when the NTSC is not sync just right.