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AbramPT said:

Excited to see where you go with this!!

Maybe I’m just bitter about them cancelling any plans for Season 2, but regarding Plagueis, I would just cut him entirely. Try to keep this movie as self-contained as possible, ya know? Don’t tempt the audience with something that will never be 😭

I’m honestly toying with that. The scene it happens in is largely unimportant and could shave a few minutes off the runtime. Right now it’s in. The edit is running 2 hours 26 minutes as of now, right around the same length as my Kenobi edit, and it feels pretty good at that length. So if I end up putting something back in, Plagueis is likely the first thing to go.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

What are your plans concerning the ending? No to Yoda, yes to Plagueis, etc.?

No Yoda, and we don’t see Mae again after she gets picked up by the Jedi (“What did I do?”). There’s a shortened sequence of Vernestra lying to the high council, and then it’s straight to Osha and Qimir.

I’m probably just going to leave the Plagueis hint where it is. I tried moving it to the end, with him looking at them on the beach, and it kind of stifles the ending a bit. The focus gets pulled from Osha, which I feel like is important.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I’m not denying that it’s a good moment, but it hints at a greater conspiracy than what we’re ultimately presented with. That retroactively taints my perception of the scene itself. In truth, I think the greater argument for removing all of it is to save screen time and keep the pacing going. The gang is told that somebody tried to break into a local Jedi temple, they show up, and both the audience and them are shocked to discover the person they were trying to save is already dead somehow. It just flows better.

I intend to keep it, and my argument for that is that we already don’t see Kelnacca’s death, so removing another one kind of short changes Mae and the audience. Also, I just think all the stuff with Torbin is cool.

dgraham414 said:

I always imagined something akin to Batman Begins or Man of Steels use of flashback would fit well with this story as a film

You’re not far off from what I’m doing, I am using MoS as an inspiration as far as when/how to add them in.

hinventon said:

Can’t wait to see more! Interested to see how you’ll integrate the flashbacks without sticking on them for too long while still keeping the necessary context.

I’ve found a bit of a system. We only get flashbacks when somebody wakes up, usually Osha. So they’re basically her dreams. “The truth” so to say, comes when Sol has Mae captured on the ship.

Right now I have, I believe anyway, all the necessary flashbacks integrated this way. The edit is running about 2 hours 35 minutes but I’m confident I can get another 15-20 out of it. The big fight happens right about half way through, which is what I wanted.

Hi everyone,

What a divisive series, huh? I know there’s going to inevitably be a boat-load of edits for this series, some already released, but I wanted to throw my hate in the ring.

For some perspective, I actually really liked The Acolyte. Sure, it had it’s flaws, but I found it refreshing that the show didn’t rely on nostalgia/legacy characters, and presented some interesting and new ideas. Also, it’s hard to deny that the lightsaber action was top tier, and they introduced a great new villain. It was a good show with great promise, and I’m sad we aren’t getting a second season to see where it goes from here.

My goals with this edit are similar to my edit of Kenobi, so if you liked that, this will be similar. Basically, I want to find a way to cut this down to a manageable length (less than 2 hours 30 minutes) and have the pacing and feel of a Star Wars theatrical film. This isn’t necessarily an “I’m gonna fix The Acolye!” edit, and more of a “what would this story look like if it were presented as a theatrical film?”

The biggest change that I’m most proud of so far, even though it needs more smoothing, is removing Osha’s adventure on the snow planet. Things have been re-organized and re-edited so that Sol, Jecki, and Yord go together to initially confront Osha, with Yord being the one that goes aboard to speak with her. This necessitated removing Yord’s padawan, who is never seen again anyway. Mae’s attack on Torbin happens right after Osha is brought aboard, so she’s not the prime suspect pretty much right away.

Here’s an early preview of Yord confronting Osha with the padawan removed:
https://streamable.com/n5df3g

I also intend to sprinkle snippets of the flashbacks from episodes 3 and 7 throughout where appropriate, so we only get the pieces of the backstory needed to reach the climax of the story.

This will take a little while to get right as there’s a lot of pieces that I need to get right, but I’ll post more work here as I go.

wutwut said:

I’d love to give this a go, would it be possible to get a link in PM please Spence?

Please send a PM instead of requesting in the thread so as not to fill the thread with requests. Thanks!

Daiyus said:

I’ve just rewatched TPM & AotC for the first time in a while. Overall I still feel like these are the best versions of these films I’ve yet seen, so a massive thank you for your hard work. The updates to AotC are very welcome and well done.

Upon the rewatch there was just one cut that felt a little off, and I fully acknowledge that I’m being really, really, nitpicky here; during the opening of TPM, when Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are being gassed, the droids no longer speak. Their heads bob, and the droids generally chatter a bit throughout the rest of the film albeit reduced, but they don’t make a noise in this scene. It’s the only scene out of the two movies I’ve rewatched where I felt something was missing or had been cut, which is a testament to just how great the rest of your content is.

Thanks for the feedback! Most of the big Ep 1 edits do this with the droid voices, and I’m happy with the decision.

AOTC has been updated to V2. I have deprecated V1 as there isn’t much reason to keep it.

The “no flashback” version will be rendered and posted over the weekend.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback so far. I’m glad the edits seem to have been received well.

I wanted to let everyone know that I will soon be releasing a V2 of Attack of the Clones. Very little is changing, but here is what to expect:

• Slightly lengthened the transition from the senate to Anakin standing on the balcony for better flow.
• Added a new dream/nightmare sequence for Anakin, after his first kiss with Padme. This is one of the major pieces of feedback, that we never actually see Anakin have one of his nightmares. I agree with that feedback and added this in.
• I will release, alongside V2, a version of the edit that does not include the flashback sequence from the Obi-Wan TV show. I realize that some enjoy it being placed in the film, while some do not, so I wanted to offer this as an option. My preferred version of the edit is the one that includes the sequence.

I’ll likely have this out within the next week or so.

Thanks!

arosa1091 said:

Anyone got links to these edits? Spence hasn’t been on since March, it seems.

Thanks, in advance. MTFBWY

Edit:
Got a link. 👍🏼

Apologies, I’ve been working/traveling a lot. I should be around more if anyone needs a link just DM me.

That’s weird, just fixed it.

Something like this:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/170zHpKWGIWADwuwOIzSa5X_f4pXewy06/view?usp=drive_link

One of the most frequent pieces of feedback I’m hearing, so much so that I can’t ignore it and you’re all probably right, is that we don’t see Anakin have a nightmare about his mother. So V2 will rectify this. I’m already working on it.

I really hate the “Anakin just writhing around shirtless in bed” thing so it’s going to be more of a montage of images, similar to Obi-Wan’s nightmare in the Obi-Wan series.

Hi everyone, I have listed these on the IFDB. If you’ve watched the edits, I’d really appreciate it if you could take a moment to leave a quick review.

This is not to hear everyone sing my praises or anything. Reviews on IFDB push the edit to the front page, which means more people see that it exists, which means it gets out to more and more viewers. Reviews are also very helpful in finding and fixing any issues that I missed, and getting feedback on where I could improve as an editor in general.

So if it’s not too much trouble, I’d really appreciate it!

https://ifdb.fanedit.org/fanedit-search/tag/faneditorname/spence/

hinventon said:

Any V2 updates?

Not yet, but the edits will go live on IFDB this weekend. So I should get a lot more eyeballs on it, which means more feedback. Then I’ll revisit for V2.

Jedi122 said:

Personally, I’d prefer it if it was just an uncut series edit where the only changes are the appearances of the Inquisitors to how they look in Rebels and having Anakin and Obi-Wan’s faces de-aged in the flashback scenes to how they looked in AOTC, and keep it all in 4K HDR with Atmos sound. I’m probably not gonna get it, though.

Once all the material is available this would be extremely simple to put together in a free NLE. You could leave the audio as is and just replace the clips you want with the new stuff.

Octorox said:

SpenceEdit said:

Would everyone be irked if I pushed out a V2 now? I fixed the problems that have been mentioned, but I also found some audio transitions in ROTS that mysteriously vanished without my noticing. Most of them were probably not easily heard, but I noticed and it bothers me. I’m also adjusting the size and amount of grain.

There wouldn’t be any other major adjustments, it’s all audio stuff and/or smoothing out transitions. So if you’re happy with them as they are, you wouldn’t need to download them again.

Not at all, but I do want to mention I caught another muffled line in AOTC when the delete senate scene is transitioning to the Kenobi duel scene. You can barely make out Palpatine’s next line but it’s there in the mix.

Got it, fixed.

Tobar said:

SpenceEdit said:

Here’s the ending of ROTS. I’m pretty happy with how this is turning out.

I’m coming into this very late, so this might have already been discussed. But have you thought about or experimented with changing their birth order so that Leia is born first? That way it’s Leia that spends the most time with her mother, is even caressed by her before her death. I think it would really help to smooth over the inconsistencies with ROTJ.

No, I haven’t messed with that. I’ve kind of come to terms with that just being an inconsistency.

Would everyone be irked if I pushed out a V2 now? I fixed the problems that have been mentioned, but I also found some audio transitions in ROTS that mysteriously vanished without my noticing. Most of them were probably not easily heard, but I noticed and it bothers me. I’m also adjusting the size and amount of grain.

There wouldn’t be any other major adjustments, it’s all audio stuff and/or smoothing out transitions. So if you’re happy with them as they are, you wouldn’t need to download them again.

Octorox said:

Just a heads up that in Episode II, during the scene with Anakin and Padme on the transport, the removed dialogue “you’re exactly how I remember you in my dreams” can be heard very faintly in the background.

Got it, I can fix that for V2.

Peonthegrate said:

Is there a changelog for Episode 3?

Honestly, not really. Again, I’m very bad at keeping track of that because I just sort of “noodle around” within scenes. Here’s the best I can do:

• Tons of micro-cuts throughout for pacing. They will not all be noted here.
• Added classic Fox fanfare and Lucasiflm logo.
• Cut a lot of dialogue in the space battle and removed the buzz droids sequence.
• Kept the shot of Obi-Wan leaping out of his cruiser. Never got why people cut that. It’s very cool.
• Cut shot of Anakin in the cockpit removing his seatbelt.
• Added some score over the hanger scene.
• Cut most of the business with them reaching Palpatine, keeping just the destroyer droids/droids on the elevator.
• Cut Dooku leaping over the railing.
• Cut some dialogue throughout this sequence.
• Cut a few of Palpatine’s silly reaction shots.
• Obi-Wan no longer has a giant scaffold dropped on top of him.
• Cut Anakin’s hesitation in killing Dooku.
• Cut Palpatine’s line about the sand people.
• Cut Obi-Wan being retrieved.
• Cut some dialogue when the ships are firing their batteries at each other.
• I used HAL’s editing as a blueprint for them getting captured in the elevator shaft, removing the ray shields sequence.
• Cut Anakin’s “I thought you’d be taller”
• Added music over the battle on the bridge.
• Cut some little bits of dialogue as they pilot the ship down to Coruscant.
• Trimmed up Anakin and Obi-Wan’s banter when they arrive to meet Mace.
• Added the “plot to destroy the Jedi” deleted scene after Grievous contacts Palpatine.
• Cut the balcony scene with Anakin and Padme.
• Cut Anakin saying “I’m honored”
• Trimmed Anakin’s reaction to not becoming a master so it’s less whiny, but still angry.
• Added the first Senate deleted scene after Obi-Wan and Anakin speak at the temple.
• Anakin does not tell Padme she’s “starting to sound like a Separatist”
• Cut mention of Midichlorians.
• Added second Senate scene after the Opera
• Added third Senate scene after Obi-Wan arrives on Utapau
• Cut Obi-Wan getting the lizard-horse, go straight to Grievous addressing the Separatists.
• Cut Grievous’ “You fool! I’m trained in the blah blah blah”
• Trimmed up the fight sequence for pacing.
• Trimmed Anakin realizing Palpatine is the Sith lord so he catches on a bit quicker.
• Trimmed the second Grievous fight for pacing.
• Trimmed Anakin and Mace discussing Palpatine so Anakin doesn’t sound so much like he is trying to save Palpatine.
• Removed 3PO from a shot where Padme is staring out the window.
• Darkened Palpatine’s office slightly when he’s confronted.
• Trimmed the scene where Palpatine attacks so it’s a little more violent and sudden.
• Cut some of the sillier shots of their fight.
• Used Hal’s version of the Palpatine reveal and Mace’s death.
• Removed a large chunk of the dialogue in the naming scene. Added a slight camera shake to Anakin’s shots to make him feel more unbalanced.
• Order 66 has been completely reworked. Yoda’s scene is now the cap on the sequence, and footage from Book of Boba Fett and Mandalorian are included to open the scene up. Anakin no longer personally kills the Younglings.
• Cut some of the Padawan’s acrobatics when Bail goes to the temple.
• Combined two of Obi-Wan’s scenes when he swims up and escapes.
• Changed the music when Obi-Wan arrives at Bail’s ship to feel less triumphant.
• Cut Anakin’s yellow eyes and some of his acrobatics when he kills the Separatist leaders.
• Cut Yoda deciding to fight Palpatine.
• Obi-Wan doesn’t say he saw Anakin “Killing Younglings”
• Obi-Wan does not verbally respond to “You’re going to kill him?”
• Cut the shot of Obi-Wan hiding in the toilet, we just see him get onboard the ship in the wide shot.
• Trimmed Anakin and Padme’s dialogue on Mustafar for pacing.
• A few Obi-Wan lines are cut when he speaks to Anakin, so it’s more of Anakin going on an unhinged rant.
• Yoda vs. Palpatine is cut, we stay with the Battle of the Heroes the whole time.
• All dialogue is cut after they start fighting until Anakin is beaten.
• Medical droid dialogue replaced (by me, it’s my voice)
• Cut everything with Vader after the helmet closes.
• Cut discussion of Qui-Gon and training for Obi-Wan.
• Changed the transition from 3PO to Padme’s funeral so it’s not that silly looking circle-in on his face.

Darthkovacss said:

hinventon said:

I think I can hear it slightly, it’s not that noticeable but right before Anakin says that line it sounds like a transition that needs to be faded a little more. Also, this may just be my display, but I noticed a sort of fuzzyness on the video, like the grain is too big? Here’s a pic from that scene, you can kind of see it in Mace’s saber. Idk, I just kept noticing it while I was skimming through.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FRRl9l_nKiOIlMsIbkfk5ffaEhKUcKX3/view?usp=drive_link

Yeah, its when the I need him audio track initially plays, its subtle if you don’t have the volume up you probably wouldn’t notice it, I was watching it on my TV with my surround sound system as I generally listen to movies like a cinema so in a louder playback it was pretty noticeable, but with how well the edit is done its a very minor issue, how you worked the extra scenes from ahsoka in was really good, absolutely loved it. Even though some may disagree about the last time seeing anakin/vader is when the mask goes on, I feel it fits the ending well.

Thank you for all the effort you put into your fan edits ❤️

Thanks! I honestly still don’t hear it, but I’ll redo that transition to make sure it’s gone. I’m waiting for more feedback to see if there’s anything else that gets spotted before doing a V2.

Darthkovacss said:

Watched RoS, overall I enjoyed it, i always enjoy your pacing / editing it matches what i enjoy in movies so well. There was only one part i noticed that had a slight audio issue (i have a decent stereo system so it was really jarring for me) 1:03:57 when anakin says “i need him” when that audio track starts it makes a click or something like that. other than that, awesome edit its going to sit as my preferred version 😃

Thanks for the feedback! I just checked the files and the click doesn’t seem to be present.

Would someone else that has downloaded it be willing to check if it’s there? Before I re-upload.

Daiyus said:

I’d really like links to your updated versions please. Can’t wait to see how they’ve turned out after all your hard work.

Please send me a PM for any link requests.