SpenceEdit

I’m looking for a little help!

There’s a shot from Kenobi I want to use in my edit of the Jedi temple, but I’d like to have the children running on the bridge masked out/removed. I’ve tried to do it a few times but it’s beyond my capabilities to make it look right. If anyone is able to assist, I’d appreciate it, and I’ll make sure you are credited.

Here’s the shot:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rjk_kcIDwTwLr57lvFT-CA6MLTpL8kva/view?usp=sharing

Octorox said:

SpenceEdit said:
Part of the reason I want to wait that long is I’m using some footage from Mando and the Obi-Wan show to expand on Order 66 (very sparingly, mostly in the Jedi Temple), and there could possibly be some usable footage in Ahsoka. Plus there’s rumors we’re going to see some Anakin flashbacks that could be usable.

Now that we’ve presumably seen what Ahsoka has to offer in terms of flashbacks, do you plan on using anything? I’m not sure that anything really fits with ROTS, unless flashes of it are perhaps placed in a dream sequence? I’ve always wished Ahsoka could be subtly mentioned or integrated into ROTS in some way, but it might be weird for audiences who are just watching the movies.

So far, I don’t plan to incorporate anything, but I’m still going to wait till the show is over to finalize ROTS, just in case.

As a general update, TPM is 99% done and will likely be released by the end of the month. AOTC is slightly behind that one but will probably be out next month or early November. So I should have all three released by the end of the year.

I know there’s a lot of great PT edits out there so I don’t expect everyone to rush to check these out, but I’m really glad I took another crack at them. They’re fun to play with, and I definitely worked on and learned some new editing techniques that are very valuable.

G&G-Fan said:

Is the reason you’re keeping Anakin’s turn mostly the same is because you think it was executed well originally, or because you can’t really think of any additional changes to make it better?

Well, a little of both, to be honest. I tried to do some other things with it and they never felt right, or felt too "
fanedity". I think trimming down his dialogue helped a great deal, and keeping the scene a bit more dynamic, with more movement, gives it a bit more oomph. My biggest criticism of the scene was always that it happened too quickly, but I found it works better if it’s actually a little quicker. It’s a hectic moment, not a grand one.

The importance being placed on the moment is actually by us, the viewers. For Anakin, it’s a frantic mess of a situation where he has to make a very fast decision to save his wife. He doesn’t know that being named “Darth Vader” is going to be really important in the future. He just wants to save Padme, and he’s been convinced that the Jedi are corrupt (which isn’t 100% wrong.) Probably not a whole lot to mull over as far as which decision to make.

Spenner Solo said:

Hi could I have a link please

Send a PM or email spencefanedits(AT)gmail(DOT)com

Khernel said:

Hi, could I have a link, please?

Send a PM or email spencefanedits(AT)gmail(DOT)com

Anakin’s Turn

Not entirely dissimilar from HAL’s version, but I changed up a bit of the dialogue and action editing. I also added a subtle handheld camera effect for a lot of Anakin’s shots, unbalancing him while Palpatine is perfectly stable and in control.

Still some sound work to do here.

https://streamable.com/xwny7j

timdiggerm said:

It would benefit from somehow masking out the kids on the walkway, but other than that it’s really great

I’m not particularly skilled at masking and there’s a lot of motion in that shot, so it’s kind of beyond my abilities. I would totally be up for it though.

Here’s an extremely rough preview of some things I’m playing with for the Order 66 scene. I have done barely any audio editing on this so far.

• Everything plays as normal till the speederbike crash.
• Yoda sequence moved to after the Jedi Temple but before Bail Organa arriving.
• Padme overlooking the flaming temple moved to here. C-3PO removed from the shot.
• Used footage from Obi-Wan Kenobi, Book of Boba Fett and The Mandalorian to add more carnage inside the temple.
• Scene of Anakin explicitly murdering Younglings removed.
• Shot of Anakin looking at the Younglings moved to the end of the sequence to imply he’s looking over what’s happening.

https://streamable.com/23tgc1

CourtlyHades296 said:

SpenceEdit said:

G&G-Fan said:

That’s a shame. The “nooooo” scene is cheesy but the scene where he walks on the Star Destroyer next to Palpatine is my favorite scene in the whole film.

Honestly, for ROTS the differences between my version and HAL’s aren’t huge and it would still fit with my episode 1 and 2 edits.

The changes in 1 and 2 are much bigger and different. ROTS is a pretty functional movie with some trimming and the deleted scenes added back in.

Does this mean the shot of Padme holding Leia on Alderaan is in this edit?

No.

G&G-Fan said:

That’s a shame. The “nooooo” scene is cheesy but the scene where he walks on the Star Destroyer next to Palpatine is my favorite scene in the whole film.

Honestly, for ROTS the differences between my version and HAL’s aren’t huge and it would still fit with my episode 1 and 2 edits.

The changes in 1 and 2 are much bigger and different. ROTS is a pretty functional movie with some trimming and the deleted scenes added back in.

CourtlyHades296 said:

HAL 9000’s edit has the best ending for Revenge of the Sith. It’s worth using his ending for your edit.

I love his edits, but I have a different plan.

In mine, we aren’t going to see Vader again once the helmet goes on.

So my plan changed again. I got on a roll working on ROTS and it’s nearing completion, so I’m just going to release all of these at the same time, which will be by October at the latest.

Part of the reason I want to wait that long is I’m using some footage from Mando and the Obi-Wan show to expand on Order 66 (very sparingly, mostly in the Jedi Temple), and there could possibly be some usable footage in Ahsoka. Plus there’s rumors we’re going to see some Anakin flashbacks that could be usable.

I wanted to mention that I’m using this footage to strengthen what I view to be weak points of the film. I’m aware that they don’t 100% match in style to what Lucas did on the prequels, but I don’t particularly mind that. If they’re scenes that, had they existed when those movies were made, would’ve been used at the time, I think it’s worth using them.

SUDOKU9 said:

Damn i was like one third of the way with the english subtitles. I guess ill get into translating into spanish the ones HAL did then.

Hey! Thanks for doing that. Any subtitles that you make for this, please share them with me and I’ll put them in the download folder.

Hal 9000 said:

A new Phantom Menace fan edit in 2023! I feel like I am going insane. (But once I release the final update to my own later this year, hopefully, I can recover and kiss the ground.)

SpenceEdit said:

• Some sequences in the third act are re-ordered to stay with certain events a bit longer. I also used the famous L8wrtr structure where Anakin saves the day by blowing up the ship, which allows Padme to capture the Viceroy.

Fixed that for you. 😉

Fixed!

Yeah I know it’s overkill, and there’s so many great edits of it that already exist. I just feel like I’ve gotta do my versions.

I’m feeling very confident in my Phantom Menace edit and will likely be releasing it later this month, after some more tweaks and testing. I don’t usually keep a detailed cutlist, but since there are so many TPM edits out there, I figured I should do one for this so you know what the differences are.

Overall:
Did a color correction on the movie to make it look a little more like a 70’s film stock without overdoing it.
Added further film grain to make it feel more in line with 70’s movies/4K77.
Many instances of sound effects and music have been completely reworked, especially the podrace introduction, which had it’s entire soundscape rebuilt for parts of it.

• Added disclaimer and “Spence Fanedits” title card
• Opening crawl is unchanged.
• Removed “as you know, our blockade is perfectly legal”
• Removed “what?! What did you say?”
• Cut a few seconds of Qui-Gon receiving his tea.
• Cut from “kill them immediately” to the ambassador ship being destroyed.
• Cut droid dialogue when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are cornered in the meeting room.
• Cut “have you ever encountered a Jedi knight, sir?” “well, no”
• Cut “they’re no match for droidekas”
• Removed some awkward dialogue between Padme and Nute.
• Cut from “can mean only one thing, invasion” straight to the army landing.
• Cut Jar-Jar’s interaction to make it seem that Qui-Gon is deliberately tackling him to the ground to save him.
• Cut “muy muy, I love you!”
• Cut “exsqueeze me”
• Cut “yousa follow me now, okey day”
• Cut Tarpals’ “yousa in big doodoo this time”
• Cut the majority of Nass’ ticks except for the last one.
• Cut “symbiote circle” line.
• Cut the dramatic delivery of “the planet cooooore”
• Jar Jar now just says “A little help here would be hot”
• Cut Jar Jar’s dialogue after being freed.
• Removed the majority of the Bongo sequence, keeping a little bit of the traveling and Jar-Jar explaining he was banished because he’s clumsy,
• Cut some Rick Ollie Captain Obvious-isms when they flee the planet.
• Cut “now there are two of them” after Maul is introduced (generally most of these cowardly moments that end Trade Federation/Sidious scenes are removed.
• Cut Jar Jar stepping in poop.
• Cut most of Jar Jar’s antics in Watto’s shop, with the exception of turning off the pit droid.
• Cut Jar Jar juggling a bunch of junk as Qui-Gon enters. This was tricky.
• Cut Jar Jar being confused which direction to turn as they exit the shop
• Cut Anakin’s “yippee”
• Cut a few seconds of Jar-Jar getting up after being attacked by Sebulba.
• Cut all scenes involving C-3PO from the film.
• Kept the Jar-Jar tongue joke, but removed his reaction after Qui-Gon lets him go.
• Removed any midichlorian discussion.
• Removed Anakin’s crappy friends being crappy to him. Kittster is the only one still hanging out.
• Removed the end of Qui-Gon and Watto’s bet, before Watto talks to Anakin. It goes straight from there to the podrace arena.
• Lots of cuts throughout the podrace.
  • Lots of the pilot introductions are cut
  • The parade is cut
  • The piece Sebulba breaks off of Anakin’s podracer is no longer visible in the next scene.
  • Cut the other pod that stalls out.
  • Cut anything that makes the scene not feel fast and dangerous.
  • Lots of tiny cuts throughout to spike the pacing.
• Cut Obi-Wan saying “pathetic lifeform” he now just says “another lifeform”
• Added the deleted scene of Anakin fighting Greedo, but cut where Greedo was called by name.
• Cut another Anakin “yippee” in his house.
• Moved the scene of the probe droid searching Mos Espa to right after Anakin leaves home, and added the probe droid deleted scene right after it.
• Cut Anakin saying he’s “tired”
• Removed Jar Jar saying Padme is hot.
• Trimmed the beginning of Padme and Palpatine’s meeting on Coruscant.
• Trimmed some dialogue from the Jedi council scene for better pacing.
• Anakin’s test now begins with Yoda asking him how he feels, removing the silly view screen guessing game at the beginning.
• There’s no more dialogue after Padme says “prepare my ship!” For a stronger exit from the scene.
• Mention of Maul joining Nute on Tattooine is removed and he is cut from all scenes until the duel. The idea is to let the audience forget about him until he makes a dramatic return.
• The scene with Ollie showing Anakin the ship controls is moved to right after they leave Coruscant, and a lightspeed effect is added to the ship windows so it matches the rest of the sequence.
• Some more Boss Nass ticks removed during the forest scene.
• Removed the scout and Anakin seeing the soldiers coming.
• Trimmed the dialogue in the planning scene to keep it moving faster and remove some questionable acting from Padme.
• Some sequences in the third act are re-ordered to stay with certain events a bit longer. I also used the famous L8wrtr structure where Anakin saves the day by blowing up the ship, which allows Padme to capture the Viceroy.
• Extended a piece of the fighter cockpit to cover Anakin’s face where I cut some dialogue.
• Trims to Jar Jar to make him more heroic, in his own clumsy way. Both he and Anakin do not do anything by accident throughout. They are purposefully heroic.
• A lot of Anakin’s reactions, like “uh oh” or “this is not good” are removed.
• Sped up the grappling hook sequence and had them enter the hallway from the window a bit faster.
• Jar Jar no longer accidentally frees all of the big bombs from the carriage, this is something he does on purpose. He just doesn’t think about the fact that they’re going to roll at him too.
• Removed sequence where Jar Jar lands on top of a tank and juggles a bomb. He is now immediately captured after the mount he’s on is hit by a canon.
• The movie after Maul’s death is more or less unchanged.

Delpheas said:

This edit is phenomenal, I love how you kept everything from the show that stuck with me after my first watchthrough. Minus a few unremarkable moments, the AotC training scene, and the Tusken sequence, I couldn’t actually tell you what was cut.

The pacing was great, musical transitions were well done, and I’m putting this as my goto version of OWK.

I do miss the training flashback as I do love it and as others have said it explicitly contextualizes Vader’s actions and it is just a good duel. But I understand the reasons you cut it.

Once PixelJoker’s edit is out, do you think you might incorporate any of the VFX adjustments?

I need to see what PixelJoker’s edit does first, but it’s possible. I’m pretty happy with it as-is.

I’m actually using a version of the duel in my AOTC edit that I’m working on right now!

Hey! So I took a little time off editing due to work, and then I wanted to finish my third SEE edit which was 90% done. Now that’s out of the way I’m focusing back on these.

Episode 1 is nearly complete and I’m putting the finishing touches on it, then it’s on to finishing touches for 2. I am still pretty early in 3. I think I’m going to release them as they’re ready, so Episode 1 should be released in the next month or two. I’d like to have them all out by the end of the year.

Hal 9000 said:

Yes, and I sent them to Spence. I don’t think he’s included them in the edit itself yet, so if you’d like I’ll put a link here tomorrow to them.

I have included the subtitles in the Mega folder for this.

I know this is hard to find, but I recreated the IMAX version using the German Open Matte version. I was able to mask out all of the hard-coded German subtitles and recreate the aspect ratio opening up for the opening credits and the Burj scene. I think I’ve got it about as close as possible to a true IMAX version given the absence of the 1:43:1 footage. DM me if interested.

I’d say TPM is just about ready for a workprint preview, if anyone is up for it.

NotTheDri0ds said:

That’s fair enough reason, lol

Yeah that’s what I’m kind of enjoying about doing these again from scratch. I don’t have as major influence from other edits, so I can pick and choose the stuff I personally want to keep. Some stuff some people might not like, but also it’ll be interesting to see how it works as a whole.

NotTheDri0ds said:

That’s a fair look at things. I do agree some edits overcut on him, to the point where it’s a wonder why keep him at all.

I just always felt that one gag drags on far too long as “Anakin warns him not to touch the beam > He goes to pick up a tool, getting his tongue caught > Oh no, the pod’s gonna start up soon but his hand is caught > Padme helps him out, being the only person not blind/deaf enough to somehow not notice him through the entire conundrum”

Hence my suggestion to try cutting it down to “Anakin warms him not to touch the beam, or else his hand would be numb > Oh no, his tongue got caught instead! How hilarious”, or even stopping the gag as he walks away with his hand stuck, since the audience could assume he eventually unstuck it offscreen, instead of Qui-Gon and Anakin just not caring about possibly maiming him.

I honestly agree with you, but on the other hand, I actually find this sequence quite funny. I like it enough to keep it despite your good points.

I actually added some stuff back into AOTC. I realized, through some of the feedback that I received, that the middle section of the movie where it bounces between Anakin and Obi-Wan was a little too choppy. I kept the same structure I had, but let a few of the scene play out a little longer. I also added back in some more of the deleted scenes, like the extended walk to the palace between Anakin and Padme and Padme’s nieces greeting them outside her family home. I think the love story is working as I wanted it to, but a little more time with the two of them helps a lot, even if it’s not “important to the plot”.

This is actually pretty common to the process for me, I tend to overcorrect at first, then realize why things were there in the first place when watching the whole thing put together.

Sounds like a great idea!

PsyGemini said:

Are you gonna leave TPM crawling credits the same as well? If so, might be a good ideia to at least fix the “sent two jedi knights” error (Obi-Wan was still a padawan and is only made a knight by the end of the movie).

I don’t plan on making any changes to the crawls.