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#225422
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End of SE ROTJ...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225422/action/topic#225422
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Another thing about the disappearing Jedi while we're on the subject. Thinking about it a little longer I think it was the Jedi way to commit suicide. Look at it this way, Obi-wan and Yoda were the only Jedi featured in the saga to disappear when they died, and they both died willingly. Obi-wan lowered his saber and allowed Vader to strike a finishing move. And in ROTJ, while it is true that Yoda was suffering from old age, I always believed that he willingly gave up his life. This idea is reinforced when Luke says "but Master Yoda, you can't die!", which means that Yoda is actually choosing to die.
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#225327
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End of SE ROTJ...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225327/action/topic#225327
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Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
I dont mind the planets celebrating and the new music change instead of Yub Nub, its just Hayden(even though I dont mind him in the PT) instead of Sebastian Shaw that I just find unbearable to watch, I wanted to throw my TV out of the window the first time I saw him there, and have only seen once since and have no plans to again.


What is everyone's problem with Yub Nub? IMO its a great song with a catchy chorus thats much more exciting than the other one.
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#225325
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End of SE ROTJ...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225325/action/topic#225325
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I liked the original ending of ROTJ that doesn't show all the planets celebrating. The latter ending is just too contrived. We're led to believe that the entire empire is overthrown in one night, when in reality that wouldn't be the case at all. No war is ever won in a single evening. I also liked the lonliness of the original Endor celebration (without the inserts of other planets); gives the sense that, at the moment, only a handful know about this great victory. And that's more realistic.
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#225322
Topic
End of SE ROTJ...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225322/action/topic#225322
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
The only problem is that there's nothing even remotely scary about him, starting with his crappy voice.


I know. I had so much hope for General Grievous being a kick ass villain; but he was nothing. He had the gayest voice and Obi-wan whooped him like he was an antique can opener.
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#225314
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"Original Vision"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225314/action/topic#225314
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Originally posted by: jack Spencer Jr
Lucas has for a while now been harping on the prequels and the SE as his original vision for Star Wars. It has long since passed into lore that lucas was forced to make changes to the first Star Wars (by various people, likely the studio or producer Gary Kurtz) to change the tone to make it less goofy, less kiddie to remove lame jokes, etc. Stuff found in Star Wars movies from ROTJ to the SE to the Prequels, since at that point, Lucas had enough power to do what he wanted.

I put forward that if he had made the original Star Wars the way he wanted, it would have been the only movie made. The lame jokes and more juvenile tone would have kept it from becoming the block buster it was. It would have done somewhat well, but not enough to warrant a sequel and if one was made anyway, it would have performed below expectations. But it's doubtful if one would have been made. So then Star Wars would have passed into history as a great movie... for children under 6.

I wish he would rethink his whole "original vision" stance because if he had his way back in 1977, he never would have again. Period.


I agree, and that's one reason why I'm against a director or any single person have complete control over the entire movie. Lets face it, as great as some directors are (Kubrick, Lynch, etc..) they are never exempt from making artistic misjudgments. That's why they need producers, editors, writers, etc.. to keep them in check and make sure they deliver a product thats acceptable by the masses. The OOT was a collaborative effort, while the PT was just one man telling everyone else what to do. In the end it = crap.

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#225313
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An exact quote from Lucas on Greedo shooting first.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225313/action/topic#225313
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Originally posted by: Darth Lars
I have begun to think that the reason for the change could be the inclusion of the Jabba scene. It does not make as much sense that Jabba would be so approaching to Han if Han had shot one of his underlings in cold blood.

btw. I hate the Jabba scene...

Jabba: Why did you have to shoot Greedo? *puppy eyes*

Me: *cringe*


Jabba is such a sly character I dont think he would give a damn. I mean he let Han step on his tail for crying out loud
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#225186
Topic
STAR WARS - Enhanced HD & O-OT HD Packs... some suggestions...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225186/action/topic#225186
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Don't forget the animators. Have you ever listened to the commentary track for Attack of the Clones? Every time Yoda would appear on screen, the animators would fall over from patting themselves on the back so much. "Did you see how awesome Yoda's eye looked when he blinked right there?" or "The level of detail on Yoda's chin is just so amazing!" It got really old really fast.


The CGI Gollum from LOTR looks more realistic than that Yoda.

Its funny how Luca$h always wants the SW movies to be the most technologically sophisticated films on the planet, but the PT doesn't even surpass the effects work of a low budget Ray Harryhausen film (which are superb by the way).
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#225183
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What is meant by 'Special Edition'?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225183/action/topic#225183
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Originally posted by: ShiftyEyes
The set that will be released sometime next year will not only include Ridley Scott's new director cut, but also the original DC, the American theatrical cut, and the International theatrical cut as well.


Damn! I wonder how much that will run for.

I like Bladerunner, but I never liked it enough to pay $40 bucks for four different versions.
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#224977
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An exact quote from Lucas on Greedo shooting first.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/224977/action/topic#224977
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Originally posted by: jturd
If I could jump in here, I personally don't think that Greedo was absolutely definitely 100% going to shoot Han. I mean, if he had shot and killed Han right then and there, he'd have a 170 lbs. dead body to drag all the way from the cantina to Jabba's palace. That's, what, at least ten miles as the crow flies? Greedo doesn't look strong enough. No upper body strength. He knew that wasn't going to happen. Unfortunately, he wasn't sharp enough to march Han right out of that cantina the moment he confronted him. Instead, he let him sit down, relaxed the "keep your hands where I can see them" rule, and, well, that was that.

And even if Greedo wasn't going to take him to Jabba, even if his intent was to collect Han's cash and "forget" he found him, Han clearly stated that he didn't have the money on him. I suppose Han could have been lying, but the only way Greedo would have known for sure is if he had kept Han on his feet and searched him. If he had shot Han dead with empty pockets, he would have been totally fucked. But, as Darth Chaltab put it, our green friend was too busy gloating like a Bond villain to think any of these scenarios through.

That's what I think, at least. I could be (totally) wrong.


How do you know he didn't have a speeder parked nearby? I doubt he walked all the way from the spaceport. Also a bounty hunter doesn't need to deliver the entire carcas to prove his kill, he merely need to bring an indentifiable object, namely the head.