Space Hunter M

Subtitles test. (got the Chinese line from the wikia page. I still need the full script)

SilverWook said:

You could also try rerecording it through a speakerphone or a walkie talkie? Of course the best way to get that true bootleg feel is to output the whole thing to a VCR and then copy the tape a few more times. Then mess with the tracking a bit when digitizing it again. 😃

I have a bootleg ROTS DVD stashed away somewhere, but I don’t know if the subs are what you’re looking for.

Oh don’t worry, I have a perfect multi VCR setup for when I do get around to the tape capture. I’ve done multigen shit hundreds of time by now using that method you mentioned. The microcassette output was just a test to make the audio sound more like a bad mono optical track before the tape capture.

If it’s the Backstroke DVD, it should have menus like this I believe:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130118054837im_/http://www.winterson.com.nyud.net/pics2/botw01.jpg
https://web.archive.org/web/20130118054837im_/http://www.winterson.com.nyud.net/pics2/botw02.jpg

SparkySywer said:

35mm sourced version of Revenge of the Sith for the picture

Hey, where’d you get that?

output the whole thing to a VCR and then copy the tape a few more times.

How much would that cost to get a VCR, a few tapes, and something to put the data onto a computer? It’s been a while since I’ve bought any of that.

friedcamera still had a copy of the SVCD release of Russian 35mm bootleg that used to be hosted on none’s website.

A cheap VCR unit isn’t very hard to find (I managed to get lucky and score a free Philips S-VHS deck two years ago from guy who was clearing out his dad’s house), but capturing is a different story. I use an “ehhh”-ish Toshiba DVD recorder for capturing, but if you want more precise results and better bitrates, it’s wiser to go with a good capture card, which can sometimes be in the high hundreds in terms of cost.

You can still get decent-ish blank tapes from a few retailers like Walmart IIRC.

Question, CatBus: Where can I find a text version of the original Chinese language subtitles from the Backstroke of the West DVD? It’s for a project I’m doing right now.

I know this isn’t OOT but I figured I’d ask since you’re the language master.

I’m experimenting with ways to make the audio sound terrible already. Ran this scene through a microcassette tape:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1c0RErkMSo

I want to create an awful looking multi-generational, linear mono audio VHSrip version of TheThirdGathers’ Backstroke of the West dub that uses a 35mm sourced version of Revenge of the Sith for the picture. I plan to render the subtitles on the video frame itself like the popular YouTube version, but done up to look like shitty burnt-in theatrical subs to give it a Chinese language film theatrical print vibe. If anyone could also give me the actual Chinese subs the Backstroke script originates from, that’d be helpful, too.

For this I need the 576i TUN bootleg SVCD that used to be hosted on none’s fd.noneinc :F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T: 😄:A:T:A:B:A:S:E:. This is the version with the Cyrillic crawl that was also used to make the moviesonfire .avi. If anyone could direct me to a copy of this version, please notify me.

Edit: received bin/cue files from friedcamera, so this project can move forward now.

Does anyone still have the 35mm sourced PAL DVD of Revenge of the Sith with the cue marks? I mean the full 576i “TUN” DVD.

How about this?

Can anyone with more patience tell if the music is mixed louder in some spots? I swear a lot of voices and sounds are drowned out of Yub Nub.

So I took it upon myself to buy the tape version and post an x264 on the Spleen, so at least the dub is now available.

Still, if anyone has the capacity to rip the LD, let me know.

There was a mono ROTJ mix assembled, but obviously the question is whether or not this print uses it or not (or if there’s any differences other than acoustic adjustment). I can’t find the exact thread, but a while back there was an excerpt from a book or article about when everything pertaining to Jedi was delivered to Fox and it mentioned a mono version.

I liked the stereo option on the PSB disc since the mono mix had so many differences and it was fun to compare, but obviously it’s not really necessary if a convenient DVD5 of a 131 minute long film is what is ultimately wanted.

I just wanna see the dang thing and have a complete “mouse droppings” trilogy, honestly.

Anybody have this disc and would be willing to do a capture?
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/08420/ID4250LI/Police-Story

It’s the late '90s U.S. version in widescreen and the only English version of the film I don’t have in any capacity. I’d buy the tape version, but it’d be nice to have a letterboxed transfer since it’s the only version to my knowledge that has the blooper sequence without credits.

Does anyone know a good (logoless) digital source for the 1.33:1 version of Tremors 2? IIRC there was a Ukranian lektor’d TVrip on ex.ua a long time ago.

I guess just the original VHS version would be okay too.

Last July, Toho simulcast their fully 35mm sourced 4K restoration of the uncut 1962 version of King Kong vs. Godzilla in theaters and on the Japanese Movie Specialty Channel, a marked and long overdue improvement over their ugly Blu-Ray version. No rips have surfaced and a foreseeable home video version has remained unannounced thus far.

https://www.nihon-eiga.com/program/detail/nh10006490_0001.html

Can someone with the capabilities to rip Japanese HDTV programs grab the .ts stream of this next time it airs?

I don’t see anything scheduled for next month, but I’ll bump this thread as soon as there’s broadcast dates again.

https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/38602/NF-22808-LD/Godzilla-Box

Would anyone with the capacity to rip PAL LDs be able to help out with ripping this? The German laserdisc set is the only transfer of the international export version (with English text instead of Japanese) outside VHS releases (e.g. the '98 British Carlton tape or the Scandinavian or Portuguese ones).

http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassung&fid=627&vid=31231
The DVD release by Astro in 2001 uses the same master, but unfortunately cuts the film back to 83 minutes like the theatrical German version (while also mistakenly keeping a scene from the uncut LD version in English).

If anyone is willing to help out with this, I will gladly pay for the copy of set itself on lddb. Only about 20 minutes worth of scenes from this disc are needed in any case.

God Save Pop Punk said:

I thought it might be. I may go back sometime and do a corrected version of this where instead of recreating the splices (and covering one up as I did here), I just leave a gap in the audio. For some reason that approach didn’t occur to me while I was making this.

Also, I suspect a couple other cuts might be splices, except that I could also see them being intentional edits - cutting out the sign outside the emergency headquarters in that shot of the ruins of Tokyo, for instance, since most of the US audience wouldn’t be able to read it anyway.

The only actual cuts in the AIP version are the aforementioned defense headquarters shot, and the Minya instances.

The AIP version also has frames that are missing in the current Japanese sources like Sea Monster and SoG (e.g. the shot of Kenji Sahara’s character and the end of reel 1).

That shot of Dr. Otani and the others in the car is not a cut. It’s a physical damage splice in the 16mm print you used for reference.

Video Collector said:

Space Hunter M said:

Video Collector said:
Will you guys be pooling your resources, perhaps? Red Menace is making the most out of what he has, but it appears to me you have even more resources at your disposal.

If it’s any help, I guess so.

Perhaps not my place to say, as he may not even need “help”, but if you’d send him your 16mm reference video, the 16mm audio from the Australian DVD and your recreation of the opening credits, his project would move up a notch. Or are you currently working on a similar HD recreation yourself?

I’ve had my own SD reconstructions of Ghidrah for like two years now, and somebody even beat me to syncing the '08 master to the U.S. version before that. I just happen to know a lot of the in and outs of the WRS cut, and I’m all for new attempts.

Video Collector said:

Space Hunter M said:

Using the Classic Media reconstruction of Ghidrah is a fool’s errand as well (I realize you acknowledge the sync errors, but there are unnoticeable visual ones as well). It’s not very accurate and pretty clumsy at times. If you want to carefully re-create Ghidrah, use an original 16mm source like I did for my SD reconstructions. Also, the best (incomplete) source for the audio is the 16mm print on the Australian Siren Entertainment DVD since it’s not an old 1 inch tape master.

Ghidrah also has a shot that’s longer than in any existing Japanese source (a shot of Infant Island when the Shobijin summon Mothra).

The end title you did is pretty good (nice work removing the “Owari”), but it’s not accurate. The 8mm Ken Films 'scope version of Ghidrah shows that the end title is supposed to be stretched to widescreen:

BoxMonster and I collaborated on a version of the opening credits in 720p with fake gate weave and grain for the freeze frames and a font that’s very similar to the original. I still have the .mov he sent me.

Will you guys be pooling your resources, perhaps? Red Menace is making the most out of what he has, but it appears to me you have even more resources at your disposal.

If it’s any help, I guess so.

Jetrell Fo said:

Space Hunter M said:

The “splices” are just the physical glue marks that were used to edit the negative together. They’re just visible in the HDTV transfer because of how much picture information was saved. There is nothing unusual about them and erasure is not a good idea (The Blu-Ray does this anyway).

Also, any restoration of Monster Zero using a Japanese source is a fool’s errand because all Japanese film sources of the uncut version are inherently INFERIOR to the domestic U.S. elements (which are in desperate need of a re-scan a la the Classic Media Gargantuas).

The uncut camera negative of Monster Zero doesn’t exist anymore. The uncut version Toho uses for video is a foreign element several generations removed from the OCN and it has stabilization and fading problems.

Using the Classic Media reconstruction of Ghidrah is a fool’s errand as well (I realize you acknowledge the sync errors, but there are unnoticeable visual ones as well). It’s not very accurate and pretty clumsy at times. If you want to carefully re-create Ghidrah, use an original 16mm source like I did for my SD reconstructions. Also, the best (incomplete) source for the audio is the 16mm print on the Australian Siren Entertainment DVD since it’s not an old 1 inch tape master.

Ghidrah also has a shot that’s longer than in any existing Japanese source (a shot of Infant Island when the Shobijin summon Mothra).

The end title you did is pretty good (nice work removing the “Owari”), but it’s not accurate. The 8mm Ken Films 'scope version of Ghidrah shows that the end title is supposed to be stretched to widescreen:
https://s30.postimg.org/gnizs8k4x/vlcsnap_2016_12_17_09h02m32s183.png

I made that mistake myself when I did my reconstruction. I’ve since corrected it:
https://s29.postimg.org/qrvkj7vc7/vlcsnap_2016_12_17_09h05m34s217.png

BoxMonster and I collaborated on a version of the opening credits in 720p with fake gate weave and grain for the freeze frames and a font that’s very similar to the original. I still have the .mov he sent me.

What about the Ghidrah Anchor Bay VHS release I uploaded to the spleen? Would that be of any use?

Your capture is unmistakably better PQ-wise, but I’ve had my own rip of the Anchor Bay tape to work with for quite some time. I also have a hi8 recording of a Disney Channel airing of the same video master.

The “splices” are just the physical glue marks that were used to edit the negative together. They’re just visible in the HDTV transfer because of how much picture information was saved. There is nothing unusual about them and erasure is not a good idea (The Blu-Ray does this anyway).

Also, any restoration of Monster Zero using a Japanese source is a fool’s errand because all Japanese film sources of the uncut version are inherently INFERIOR to the domestic U.S. elements (which are in desperate need of a re-scan a la the Classic Media Gargantuas).

The uncut camera negative of Monster Zero doesn’t exist anymore. The uncut version Toho uses for video is a foreign element several generations removed from the OCN and it has stabilization and fading problems.

Using the Classic Media reconstruction of Ghidrah is a fool’s errand as well (I realize you acknowledge the sync errors, but there are unnoticeable visual ones as well). It’s not very accurate and pretty clumsy at times. If you want to carefully re-create Ghidrah, use an original 16mm source like I did for my SD reconstructions. Also, the best (incomplete) source for the audio is the 16mm print on the Australian Siren Entertainment DVD since it’s not an old 1 inch tape master.

Ghidrah also has a shot that’s longer than in any existing Japanese source (a shot of Infant Island when the Shobijin summon Mothra).

The end title you did is pretty good (nice work removing the “Owari”), but it’s not accurate. The 8mm Ken Films 'scope version of Ghidrah shows that the end title is supposed to be stretched to widescreen:
https://s30.postimg.org/gnizs8k4x/vlcsnap_2016_12_17_09h02m32s183.png

I made that mistake myself when I did my reconstruction. I’ve since corrected it:
https://s29.postimg.org/qrvkj7vc7/vlcsnap_2016_12_17_09h05m34s217.png

BoxMonster and I collaborated on a version of the opening credits in 720p with fake gate weave and grain for the freeze frames and a font that’s very similar to the original. I still have the .mov he sent me.

Jetrell Fo said:

Just checking back in.

bump

Project is no longer possible because Crackle replaced the textless version with the BD master.

Sweet! Wish I could actually be of financial help. Not a big fan of THX, but it’s cool to see another preservation effort for it in this sort of league.

I never freaking noticed that garbage matte outline on Obi-Wan’s cloak when Vader strikes him down until watching this.

I really liked that unexpected reprise of the ending of “Burning Homestead” during the confrontation between Rey and Ren. Great, powerful moment.