Moth3r said:
This discussion is all very interesting - but has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. I don't want to have to start deleting posts.
Would it help if I said that BluRay is a waste of time because there's no BluRay version of Revisited?
No, I didn't think so ... :)
Doctor M said:
BUT all things being equal, more lines of resolution is always better, and only a one-eyed idiot (with the good eye swelled shut) can't tell that HD looks better than SD no matter what size the screen.
To this I say: 12". :P
There are a lot of factors in what makes HD look better than SD, as has been covered before. Only when all factors come into alignment is there a notable difference.
This still doesn't change the fact that BluRay is a waste of precious money ;)
Monroville said:
There is a BIG difference between DVD and Blu-ray (450i/p compared to 720p/1080p). Granted, it helps that you have a 50 to 65 inch HDTV (or bigger), as Sorcerer is kinda correct at least when it comes to smaller screen sizes (30" and smaller).
I believe Choice Magazine determined that 42" is the smallest TV where BluRay makes a noticabe difference at a comfortable distance. It also depends on the quality of the TV; I've seen massive TVs on display at electronics store that are playing DVDs, are connected by composite (not even component) via a splitter/switcher, and look absolutely amazing. I specifically look for signs of MPEG artifacts, pixelation and such, and have to look really close at good quality TVs to notice anything like that.
In contrast, I see plenty of MPEG artifacts on good signals of HD digital TV broadcasts. Maybe the TVs are not as good, or maybe it's the encoding variant.
OBtwosy said:
Hi everyone - it's been a while since I posted, but i've been following the Adywan threads.
I'm about to make the leap into the Hi-Def world (TV, Blu-Ray, etc.) - late I know.
I do have the DVD9 version of revisited - is that the highest rez out there or should I look for yet another version? And if so where (I am not a torrent guy)
Thanks in advance!
The DVD version (whether you have DVD5 or DVD9; DVD9 version just has more special features) is the highest quality version available.
Blu-Ray is a waste of money. Even if you notice a difference when you're right up next to the screen counting the pixels, you won't notice a difference when you're at a comfortable distance from your TV. Now, if you had a film projector and a screen the size of IMAX ..........
This is why torrents are better than Crapidshare.
Ziz said:
Don't know when I'll decide to take these off my site so get them while you can.
Maybe someone will torrent them ...
Timstuff said:
w00t! I finally got my hands on some Verbatim DVD+R DLs and burned myself a copy of the DVD9 ANH:R! Jolly times are ahead! :)
Now all you need to do is print the DVD labels and case jackets!
adywan said:
Once unrared (JDownloader usually takes care of that side of things) you should have an .ISO file. Use IMGBurn to burn it to a Duel layer DVD or mount the image with something like Daemontools and use a software DVD player to play the disc
VLC can play ISO files directly, without needing to mount them. It is certainly made of complete awesome.
Ziz said:
Why don't you guys just do the German audio as an MP3 that people can listen to on their iPod/MP3 player while they watch the film? That would get it out there easier and faster for those that need it without having to have another version of the film/disc floating around out there.
Maybe because the quality would be crap from such an MP3 (MPEG artefacts are disgusting in general), or maybe because syncing the MP3 player to the footage would be very tricky, or maybe because people want to put a disc in their DVD player and have it Just Work(TM).
Bingowings said:
Four has to be a record.
What causes this thing? Must do research, Miss Sakamoto!
You should be able to get a research grant for that.
Lord Grievous said:
DOUBLE EDIT: Does anyone know if the PAL DVD9 is available on rapidshare or some other site?
Yes, I do know. It's not difficult to find, but if you're already getting it by torrent, why do you want to download by the less convenient, less fault-resistant, more annoying Crapidshare service?
Obi-Wan said:
Activated torrent and JDownloader simultaneously. JD finished after 2d 6h while I had to nurse it sometimes. Torrent will need 3d I guess but delivers a more constant data rate while JD has a lot of peaks and waiting time.
What I noticed in torrent regarding the PAL-iso: I have two different torrents containing the iso-file: One did never finish (69%) and contains 3962 pieces while the newer and complete one contains 15849 pieces.
Piece sizes can be changed per torrent. The torrent I created has a small piece size (512KB) to allow for greater reliability of data with poor connections.
Personally, I find torrents to be more reliable and friendly than CrapidShare. While downloading my original copy, JDownloader/Crapidshare ended up discarding a total of about 800-1200MB of correct data due to intermittent connection drop-outs (I would have got similar results from a torrent with a 200MB piece size).
Obi-Wan said:
PAL also has a higher framerate than NTSC
No it doesn't. PAL is (usually) 50Hz (25 fps + interlacing), whereas NTSC is closer to (but not exactly) 60Hz (30 fps + interlacing). PAL is still a better image though, as there is more resolution and better colour definition (which theoretically wouldn't be true for a 100% digital transmission between DVD player and TV, e.g. DVI or HDMI, but I haven't had the opportunity to try that).
DragoonClawNZ said:
Even if TVs don't have support for the other format, thank god for region free DVD players because it gives you an option to watch any DVD in PAL or NTSC. The only downside is if you watch it on the opposite format (NTSC DVD set to PAL), the frame rate is limited. For instance, a TV series that runs at full 60fps will only play at 25, same with PAL on NTSC at 30.
That is not the only difference between PAL and NTSC. Most (if not all) region-unlocked DVD players will not attempt to convert between PAL and NTSC depending on what your TV supports; a PAL disc will always output with PAL, and an NTSC disc will always output with NTSC. One device that does convert between the two systems is an unlocked Gamecube, but it can't play DVDs without extreme hardware modifications.
In Australia, where I live, pretty much all TVs are PAL/NTSC compatible. Most even support SECAM. Analogue broadcasts are in PAL, and almost all locally-produced DVDs are published for use with PAL (region 4).
However, even with the compatibility, it doesn't always work well. I have an Australian, region 4 copy of Dilbert, only available in NTSC, which looks absolutely awful. This is probably due to both the difference in colour systems (NTSC has poorer colour definition than PAL) or to an encoding issue with interlacing (which would be exasperated by the difference in resolution along the lines of displaying a 640x480 image on an old 800x600 LCD).
In summary, PAL is better. :)
adywan said:
Obi-Wan said:
Here are the two different iso-sizes:
NTSC: 8.166.532 KB (8.362.528.768 Bytes)
PAL: 8.114.144 KB (8.308.883.456 Bytes)The NTSC & PAL versions do have different file sizes due to different framerates etc. There is nothing wrong with those reported filesizes
But my banana is incomplete!
Though, as it was raised, I did become concerned that perhaps my copy was incomplete (although I tested it by checking opening and closing credits, so if it was incomplete it would only be for the special features). I am paranoid about certain "share" websites and certain proprietary compression formats that shall remain nameless.
Glad to know that what I've got is what I want :)
Obi-Wan said:
Unfortunately it has been a waste of time and a PAL-DVD-9 is currently unavailable on the site I've found. From what I have noticed via a torr.-check is that a PAL.iso is available but incomplete.
What exactly leads you to believe the PAL-9 ISO is incomplete? Just comparing the filesize between PAL and NTSC is like saying "this apple is larger than that banana, so the banana is incomplete".
I had already checked fanedit.info before I joined this forum. What I discovered was that the PAL DVD-9 link has the same checksum as the NTSC DVD-5 link (or something equally painful along those lines). What was most off-putting was that the filenames in the PAL link also indicated they were NTSC files.
vaderios sent me a link by PM. At least the one I found from him is labelled correctly, so that's promising ;)
I'm rather disappointed that I can't find the PAL/DVD-9 version of this anywhere. Does anyone know a site that still has it?