Shimraa

Originally posted by: JediSage
Anyone a fan of the books? I'm struggling to make it past the first 100 pages or so, but everyone keeps telling me it's worth it as it's one of the greatest (if not THE greatest) sci-fi book of all time.

Originally posted by: eros
The whole point of this web site is to give people info of how to obtain/or create the best possible quality backup of their cherished vhs and laserdisk copies which will wear out eventually at little or no expense to them, no more no less.

And that ain't piracy

Originally posted by: Jay
shim, the new forum software is not a panacea. Aside from letting people ignore members they find annoying, which is the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "Lalalalala!", what will it change about the content? Will originality and creative thinking suddenly spike when the new software goes live?

Forums are what you make them. You want good content and don't see it? Post it. Some of you seem to forget you're part of this community; if you don't see something you like, it's your job to post something you do. greencapt is absolutely correct about rising above the chaff.

You know what my biggest concern is with the membership here? I see a lot of repliers but nowhere near enough posters. Lots of reacting, not enough thinking. Everyone thinking this place has gone to hell should ponder something: when you visit, do you blaze through each forum looking for topics to reply to and then take off, or do you create new topics to foster interesting, thought-provoking discussions? Do you contribute and build, or do you reply and leave?

All I can do is provide the means for everyone to communicate. What you say to each other while you're here is your choice.

As for the guy who basically accused this forum of supporting piracy, he got the response he deserved. You don't sign up at a forum and then proceed to tell the owner and members their community is a den of thieves with questionable morals. Based on his post count, that's all he came here to do.

Originally posted by: greencapt
And yes even though DarkFox's post were well written (and compared to many I've seen they *were* well written if not well intoned) they still had an inflammatory nature to them them that pre-judged this site and everyone on it. And not only were his views seemingly contradictory but they also quickly escalated into almost outright threats towards Jay and the forums here in general. There's a BIG difference between expressing your opinion and making pretentious balnket statements. And like many people have pointed out there are several different areas of this forum and no one either has to A) Visit the forums AT ALL or B) frequent any one area of the fourm at all. And by my reckoning the only areas of this forum that discusses either preservation projects OR fan edits are the areas that are CLEARLY MARKED. As has been stated if you don't like the 'General Star Wars' section either don't visit it or try and contribute to it in a way that encourages better discussion. I personally do both- if a thread/area gets too idiotic I look elsewhere. But the *strength* of the overall community keeps me coming back.

Perhaps on the new site there will need to be further forum areas such as Pro-PT areas. But keep in mind in the meantime that this site was founded by and initially populated by people who FOR the release of the OOT and as such *many* (not all as I don't make blanket statements) of those people were *against* changes (makes sense) and *many* of the people who were against changes were more than likely dedicated fans of the OOT. From that one can make the logical deduction that the *majority* of *those* people would approach the PT with a much higher level of criticism than the general public or more casual SW fans- hence more bitching about it. Now bitching, when done with thought behind it and when trying to constructively add certain points, is perfectly fine and sometimes downright fun. When bitching turns to 'Lucas is a$$' (as it was for quite some time) it just is juvenile and annoying- and best avoided. But if one's only reason for avoiding the 'General Star Wars' area is PT bashing then one may be at the wrong SW forum. I look at it like this- we all have our opinions. But its just as annoying to have someone blindly *defend* something as much as it is to have them stupidly *argue* something. What pisses me off is when ANY part of the forums start to be idiotic PERSONAL attacks on each other. I *personally* think the PT are steaming cinematic turds but I would NEVER tell another member that because they like them that means THEY are steaming human turds. Trust me- I like quite a few cinematic turds. But I just do. And I don't get offended when other people don't. In fact, outside of the little geek community we have here, the vast majority of the world seems to enjoy the turds the that Hollywood monkeys fling at us every week.

That said, there's just as many poo-flinging monkeys in the 'Off Topic' section as there is in the 'General Star Wars' section. Oh it may be different monkeys and different poo but the effect is the same. Remember that like any online venture what we do here is make-believe. Seriously. I know it may not feel like but it truly is. Very few of us will ever have contact with each other in real life. Most of us have no idea what each other does in real life, what we look like, etc. There is no 'ownership' on the net, or at least only so much as any one idividual puts forwards. So everything one reads, see, hears, smells or tastes online has to be taken with a grain of salt as they say. Just try to have a good time. And like I said in a previous post here we all have freedom of choice to be here or to be anywhere. The only time the poo-flinging monkeys win is when we LET THEM WIN. They crave easy targets to aim their poo at and when we run away screaming from ANY poo-flinger all we do is get poo on our backsides. And I for one can't stand poo on my backside.

Originally posted by: battlewars
i dont like this instant classic crap either