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#235009
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The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235009/action/topic#235009
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No as to the mod thing i am completely on the otherside of the line.

See, I wish you wouldn't think like that. It makes you sound like you have something against Jay. Like you said, Jay is human and probably just forgot. If the preservation forum was a place you rarely visited, why would it matter so much that a mod was elected with powers only in that forum?

man dont you think its a big deal, for years jay prided the site on the fact that it didnt need a mod, that he didnt want a mod, that he wanted to havea forum where people sorted out ther own problems themselves. thats a pretyt unique thing, and it was something many of us prominant forum members prided the site on, prided ourselves on. then one day jay decides to make a modw. hen at so many points he had denied us one or said he didnt want one. i do find i very suspect that he anounced this only in the presevation folder, when declaring a mod is an important anouncement, and it wasnt posted in the important anouncement folder. whats the point of having that folder if you dont use it. and it matter because of the principal of it. look how mad jay is about this site and how it went behind is back, same sorta think only to a lesser degree.


Again, I have nothing against you or Dayv or anyone else. But understand that just because someone is a very prominent and respected part of a community, it doesn't mean that they "deserve" to be a mod.


well in dayvs case i find the fact that he had been an unoffical mod enough of a reason to to make him a mod. when the site didnt have a mod in the first place.

I was a very prominent member of TFN about five years ago. I had a lot of friends there that were mods and Fan Force RSA's. I believed that I too deserved to be a mod because of the way I acted and treated people. But you know what? The administration didn't see things my way and never once was I considered for a mod position. I didn't like their decision, but that doesn't mean I hated them for it or thought any less of them.


were you the top active poster at the time? had you been acting as an unoffical mod for 3 years prior to your desire to be a mod? had you been one of the most prominant members of the site for the prior 3 years? and was there a dire need for a mod at the same time? and had you shown that you were more then capable of being a mod?

all of those dayv has fofilled and surpassed, for those reason feel that he should have been mad a mod for the SW section and the Off-topic section. and that you since yuou were there so often could have been the mod in the preservation section. it would have been the logical and fair way of doing things. but jay decided against it, i donno why, but seeing that it was so logical i feel that dayv should have been given a reason.
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#235004
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235004/action/topic#235004
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wow boon the more i read the morei am leaning on jays side of this whole debackle. seriously your logic of we did it first, man what you guys did is just about as moral as me telling my buddy an idea for an invention, and then my friend going and making that invention, and patening is before i have a chance. and doing it behind my back. the bottem line is that with the similar name you guys are going to seriously hurt the success of jays site. how fair is that, how can your morally jsut go and blow off jay when he has spent a year and a half developing his site. your use of torrents and open talk of pirating is going to be the site of choice when the two sites are up. you pretty much spat in jays face with this. the least you can do is change the sites name. jay had the rights to fanedit.com a lot longer then you had the rights for *****. is that not the case. well i think that would be fair game as to say that jay was first.
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#234686
Topic
The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234686/action/topic#234686
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uhhh wow

I hate how this place is coming apart at the seams. yeah I remember those days dayv, and things were in very good shape at that point, I am still to this day surprised why your not a mod, You bossk and motti pretty much were the mods for a long time, I joined in a little after about a year here but it was mostly you guys.

I am also shocked at how jay is reacting. From my understanding of the posts in this thread, someone marketed there site using ot.com without telling jay, yeah that’s a real asshole of a thing to do but jay your acting as though they hacked onto the site stole your software and then ran off with it. Telling warbler off for demanding something, common he has been here long enough you know he wasn’t DEMANDING IT, it was just his way of saying what’s going on, that’s just the way he is. I donno why your such a hot head about it. All I know is that if dayv leaves over something that stupid then wow. You are really putting your efforts in the wrong place. Like this site has already gotten stale, do you ever read the star wars discussion folder anymore, I can at any given time go in there and 90% of the threads are Lucas bashing. Like for fucks sake there is one in there that's titled "Lucas is so stupid". I donno maybe its time for me to move on too, all I know is that if dayv who is pretty much the last of the old members that posts often leaves this site will be losing a member who actually helped define this community, you know all those people that come here and say that OT.com is so great its so nice here, its cause of posters like dayv, and posters like that are getting very few and far between, god knows that half the people that post in the SW discussion thread are a bunch of arrogant pricks. I find it kind of horrible how you have so much tolerance for posters like that, or ones like stinky who personally insult other members on the forum, yet when it comes to someone like dayv this is all it takes for you to be ready to drop him.
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#234544
Topic
terror plot in London(foiled)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234544/action/topic#234544
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Originally posted by: C3PX
It seems that too often people try to look at these things from too secular of a view point. If you do not believe in God that is just fine, but these people do. That is the point. It isn't about past events that make them willing to do these things. They believe that this life is temporary, and that if they die to please Allah then they have their one-way ticket to heaven in their pockets. Let us look back a few years to an incident that lead to America's entry into WWII. Remember the Japanese Kamikaze fighters? They also had no regard for their own lives. Why? Because the Emperor claimed to be god and they believed they would be greatly rewarded in the next life for their sacrifice in this life. You don't get atheists to commit suicide in this manner, when you believe this life is all there is, then you don't willingly throw it away to achieve an ends you won't be part of. That is why we never had this problem with the Communists. Remember MAD? Mutual Assured Destruction. They had nuclear weapons aimed at the U.S. and the U.S. had nuclear weapons aimed at them, the idea of MAD was they fired on the U.S. the U.S. would fire back on them assuring the mutual destruction of both parties. Therefore it would not have benefited either party to fire on the other. You know what is scary? MAD doesn't work with these new threats. You can be sure that if they obtain nuclear weapons they are going to use them regardless of the knowledge that the U.S. may also use them. Because in their minds, this life isn't the end. It is easy to understand why the home grown terrorists do what they do. They too are Muslims and have the same beliefs. If they can be taught to believe that this life is not the end and that they will be given great rewards for their sacrifices, then there is no limit to what they might do.

Please don't think I am anti-Muslim or anything. I don't know if we have any Muslims in these forums or not, I have nothing against them. I have good friends who are Muslims and they are completely against all these attacks. I am not trying to stereotype and make them all out to be people willing to strap dynamite on their chests.


hahhaa yeah your right, you know when you know something but you dont realise it when you make a comment thats what happened there, thanks for that. i never made the connection b4.

anyway but yeah see how do they get so brainwashed to begin with, cause that kinda thought is only in one part of islam, infact its liek a subclause in the jehad section of islam if you will. in all other areas islam denounces suicide, not only is it a sin its blasphomy i beleive( i dont know that for a fact, the blasphomy part). not only that i beleive in god and i beleive in the afterlife, however i beleive i can do more good alive then dead, i dont see how these people can go so far to beleive otherwise.

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#234374
Topic
terror plot in London(foiled)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234374/action/topic#234374
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you know i always pride myself to try to understand why someone might go so far as these terrorist have to do so much damage. for those that are from the Middle east i can understand there anger, but i have no idea where, or how these home grown terrorists think, how they got so corrupted.
one thought might be at the about of racisium that used to exist(i donno if its still there) towards the pakistan ethnic community, from people like skin heads and what not. but the hate towards the states i have no idea.
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#234282
Topic
terror plot in London(foiled)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234282/action/topic#234282
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careful now, with the way things are going right now and the way the internet is being watched you might open your door to an FBI agent tomorrow with that last comment you made. i can think of hundreds of ways that terroris can still get things onto planes but i will never post them one cause i dont want some guy showing up at my door and arresting me without charge. and i dont want to give ideas to those terrorists themselves. but yeah in all seriousness i think its stupid that they aregoing so far as to ban liquids on planes. like thats just getting a little silly in my mind. next you cant wear certain types of clothing cause the colour might cause a malfunction in a light that causes the plane to go down.
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#234220
Topic
terror plot in London(foiled)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234220/action/topic#234220
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yeah i donno, i agree with None, no amount of checks or what not are gonna thwart these plans, only intel. its gonna suck no being able to take drinks on a plane now, it almost seems like they are winning with all these new rules. like comon another one they were talking about was sun screen. you cant even take that on a plane, how many vacationing familys go and keep sun screen in there bags. i donno i find it a discrace, its almost like the plot had been successful, what will all these new percosions.
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#233947
Topic
terror plot in London(foiled)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/233947/action/topic#233947
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Main suspects in massive plane-bombing plot arrested

August 10, 2006

LONDON — British authorities said Thursday they thwarted a terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up several aircraft heading to the U.S. using explosives smuggled in hand luggage, averting what police described as 'mass murder on an
unimaginable scale.'

Police arrested 21 people, saying they were confident they captured the main suspects in what U.S. officials said had the earmarks of an al-Qaida plot.
Officials raised security to its highest level in Britain — suggesting a terrorist attack might be imminent — and banned carry-on luggage on all flights. Huge crowds backed up at security barriers at London’s Heathrow airport as officials searching for explosives barred nearly every form of liquid outside of baby formula.

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the terrorists planned to use liquid explosives disguised as beverages and other common products and set them off with detonators disguised as electronic devices.

The extreme measures at a major international aviation hub sent ripples throughout the world. Heathrow was closed to most flights from Europe, and British Airways canceled all its flights between the airport and points in Britain, Europe and Libya. Numerous flights from U.S. cities to Britain were canceled.

Washington raised its threat alert to its highest level for commercial flights from Britain to the United States amid fears the plot had not been completely crushed.

The alert for all flights coming or going from the United States was also raised slightly.

Two U.S. counterterrorism officials said the terrorists had targeted United Airlines, American Airlines and Continental Airlines. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.

A U.S. intelligence official said the plotters had hoped to target flights to major airports in New York, Washington and California.

British Home Secretary John Reid said the 21 people were arrested in London, its suburbs and Birmingham following a lengthy investigation, including the alleged “main players” in the plot. Searches continued in a number of locations.

The British Broadcasting Corp. said police were evacuating homes in High Wycombe, a town 30 miles northwest of London, near one of the houses being searched. Police refused to confirm the report or to discuss any details of the searches.

The suspects were “homegrown,” though it was not immediately clear if they were all British citizens, said a police official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case. Police were working closely with the South Asian community, the official said.

The official said the plotters intended to simultaneously target multiple planes bound for the United States.

“We think this was an extraordinarily serious plot and we are confident that we’ve prevented an attempt to commit mass murder on an unimaginable scale,” Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Stephenson said.

Prime Minister Tony Blair, vacationing in the Caribbean, briefed President Bush on the situation overnight. Blair issued a statement praising the cooperation between the two countries, saying it “underlines the threat we face and our determination to counter it.”

White House spokesman Tony Snow said Bush also had been briefed by his aides while at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, where he has been on vacation.

“We do believe the plot involved flights from the U.K. to the U.S. and was a direct threat to the United States,” Snow said.
While Snow called the plot a serious threat, he assured Americans that “it is safe to travel.”

Chertoff, the homeland security chief, said the plot had the hallmarks of an operation planned by al-Qaida, the terrorist group behind the Sept. 11 attack on the United States.

“It was sophisticated, it had a lot of members and it was international in scope. It was in some respects suggestive of an al-Qaida plot,” Chertoff said, but he cautioned it was too early in the investigation to reach any conclusions.

It is the first time the red alert level in the Homeland Security warning system has been invoked, although there have been brief periods in the past when the orange level was applied. Homeland Security defines the red alert as designating a “severe risk of terrorist attacks.”

“We believe that these arrests (in London) have significantly disrupted the threat, but we cannot be sure that the threat has been entirely eliminated or the plot completely thwarted,” Chertoff said.

He added, however, there was no indication of current plots within the United States.
Chertoff said the plotters were in the final stages of planning. “We were really getting quite close to the execution phase,” he said, adding that it was unclear if the plot was linked to the upcoming fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

A senior U.S. counterterrorism official said authorities believe dozens of people — possibly as many as 50 — were involved in the plot. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

The plan involved airline passengers hiding masked explosives in carry-on luggage, the official said. “They were not yet sitting on an airplane,” but were very close to traveling, the official said, calling the plot “the real deal.”

Passengers in Britain faced delays as tighter security was hastily enforced at the country’s airports and additional measures were put in place for all flights. Laptop computers, mobile phones, iPods, and remote controls were among the items banned from being carried on board.
Liquids, such as hair care products, were also barred on flights in both Britain and the U.S.

In the mid-1990s, officials foiled a plan by terrorist mastermind Ramzi Youssef to blow up 12 Western jetliners simultaneously over the Pacific. The alleged plot involved improvised bombs using liquid hidden in contact lens solution containers.
Huge lines formed at ticket counters and behind security barriers at Heathrow and other airports in Britain.

Ed Lappen, 55, a businessman from Boston, who was traveling with his wife and daughter to Russia, found himself unable to travel further. “We’re safe, we’re OK,” he said at Heathrow. “Now my daughter is going to get a shopping trip in London.”

Hannah Pillinger, 24, seemed less concerned by the announcement. “Eight hours without an iPod, that’s the most inconvenient thing,” she said, waiting at the Manchester airport.

Most European carriers canceled flights to Heathrow because of the massive delays created after authorities enforced strict new regulations banning most hand baggage.

Tony Douglas, Heathrow’s managing director, said the airport hoped to resume normal operations Friday, but passengers would still face delays and a ban on cabin baggage “for the foreseeable future.”

“At this point in time it is unclear how long these restrictions will remain in place,” he said.

Security also was stepped up at train stations serving airports across Britain, said British Transport Police spokeswoman Jan O’Neill. At London’s Victoria Station, police patrolled platforms with bomb-sniffing dogs as passengers boarded trains carrying clear plastic bags.

Margaret Gavin, 67, waiting to board a train, said she wasn’t scared. “Why should I change my life because some idiots want to blow something up?” she said.

Heathrow’s block on incoming traffic applied to flights of three hours or less, affecting most of the incoming traffic from Europe, an airport spokesman said on condition of anonymity in line with airport policy.

Officials at Frankfurt’s airport, Europe’s second-busiest, Schiphol in Amsterdam and Charles De Gaulle in Paris said Heathrow-bound planes could instead land at their airports if they needed to.

London’s Heathrow airport was the departure point for a devastating terrorist attack on a Pan Am airplane on Dec. 21, 1988. The blast over Lockerbie, Scotland, killed all 259 people aboard Pan Am Flight 103 and 11 people on the ground.
The explosive was hidden in a portable radio secreted in checked baggage.

Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan in Washington and Matt Moore in Frankfurt, Germany, contributed to this report.


got this from http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060810/NEWS99/60810019 using google news

crasy eh any thoughts. pretty smart way to take down a plane, but its simply horrible that people would even want to do that. dont they understand all they are doing by making and planning these assults is hurting there own cause.