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#52074
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CGI and Digital or Real models and actors-whats your prefferance.?
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Originally posted by: Laserforce
Hi Spider,

I always like models and sets beacuse they have a very true to life and "hands on" approach,look at Battlestar Galactica,
The ships in this series looked awsome,Done in CGI they would move too fast and look flat.
If you look at CGi in the clone wars there are not many sceens when the action is slow and CGI is applied.This is beacuse CGI is no good at slow motion beacuse the human brain can detect it from reality.

I am not entirely looking forward to seeing the next Star wars film,CGI will play a big part no doubt and gone will be the true approach.


slow motion is not life like.
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#52073
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CGI and Digital or Real models and actors-whats your prefferance.?
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Originally posted by: Spyder X
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Originally posted by: jimbo

Digital effects are always best.


Not always. There are a lot of times when digital effects look like crap. Digital doesn't automatically mean better. Many movies without digital effects look very good and realistic. Have you ever seen 2001: A Space Odyssey? There was no such thing as digital effects when it was made, yet it has special effects that are completely realistic and convincing and they're ten times better than any of today's CGI effects.


i can think of more time where model animation has bee crap thou.
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#52072
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CGI and Digital or Real models and actors-whats your prefferance.?
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Originally posted by: Delicieuxz
I personally don't even favor golem's CGI much. he still looks incredibly, for lack of deep thinking for a better word right now, translucent and pale in comparison to any real figures. I would've opted for a heavily makeup'd actor instead. I think the same look could be achieved. from my perception nothing about the skin, eyes or hair on golem feels real. I also notice the CGI when it comes to things like catapults knocking down buildings and such. maybe pariculatly because the computer animated dust looks very fake, but overall I believe that CGI must be used as sparingly as possible for best results. It also makes the inventive mind lazy to always look to computers to draw an image rather than figuring out how it can actually be done.


HE IS SUPOSE TO LOOK TRANSLUSENT AND PALE THAT IS WHAT HE IS>
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#52071
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CGI and Digital or Real models and actors-whats your prefferance.?
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Originally posted by: Samatar
CGI can be good when it is done properly. LOTR is the best example of this, just look at Golem; a completely digitised character, but totally believable, because the creators took the time and made the effort to develop the character properly, and the animatorsdid a great job making his movement natural (unlike Jarjar who seems to walk in an unnatural boobing motion... but that's the least of my concerns where Jarjar is concerned). Also as I said in that other post, most of the CGI in AOTC and TPM is to shiny and uniform looking to be believed. In LOTR all the CGI characters look different from one another, even in the battle scenes; in AOTC all the soldiers are perfectly identical, right down to the way they wear their uniforms and their movements; it doesn't look natural.

Personally I think CGI generally belongs in computer games, not movies; but if it is done right, it can work. I think the difference between AOTC and LOTR is that LOTR used cgi when it was necessary (to complement the story); AOTC used it whenever possible (to -be- the story).


ok i realize that this is the second post in this thread but i still feel i should comment on it. samatar what is the difference between Lotr and Star wars? lotr is mid-evil, Starwars is futuristic. Lotr has regular men and orcs as soldiers whereas SW as Clones. Clones as in identical clones. SW is story that takes place in a galactic civiliztion Lotr does not. in some ways. when you look at them that way in my opinion you cant effectively compare the CG in them because they are both doing different things with the technology. its the same as trying to compare a abstract painting with photo realistic painting. they both were made using paint and a cavas but you can compare them cus they are of different styles.

as for golum and jarjar. jar jar is supose to walk with a bob it part of his character. Now when your talking aout believablity Golum was just believable because he was serious. considering that jarjar is never serious cus he was there for comic releif and to give the movie a lighter mood. It is because of that role that you just cant find his character believable. With Golum it is another story, for the most part he is a serous charater he is a sly villian. But there are times when golum is not serious and it was in those time that he did seem cartoonie Eg his conversation with himself in TTT. and the look in his eyes when he is shocked. in both of these examples gollums face and body motion has been exagerated so that he seems funny, but this exageration cause him to be cartoonie. that is why he is funny. also the animation for sauron was horrible i am still pissed off that they showed a corperial form of him. you can very easily see the CG when he uses his septer to hit like 5 soldiers at once having them all burst into peaces.

on the hole your right Lotr did a very goodjob with CG but you just can compare its CG to SWs cus they are just not hte same style.
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#51981
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Last line of episode 3?
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quite music very classical and imperial. something similar to the russian anthum playin in the background

pali looking out at the city scape of curocant.

palpatine: a new day has come the dark side of the force will rule the galaxy and the jedi will be nothing but memory. they underestimated the power of the dark side and now they will DIE. isnt that correct my friend.
as paplatine is giving the speech above show scenes of the construction of SDs and the jedi purge. as welll as scene were some of the jedi are fleeing e.g. ben landing on tatoonie with luke, and bale with leia and yoda on dagobah. merge back to pali then have him ask the question and vader walks out from the shadows.

shift to credits. with a strong mixed version of the immperial theme and a very strong russian imperal music with lots of barotones and tubas and the realyl big drums thingys.
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#51974
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Harry Potter 3
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Originally posted by: Bossk
Show up early or stay late and prep it for the next showing. Maybe obtain those nude shots of Cameron Diaz that she fought so hard to have kept out of the public eye and splice those into Shrek 2. Heh heh.


if i worked at a theater right now i would definatly do that.
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#51972
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Hockey Talk
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its turn Phily has always been about size and strength, not feness and speed. they reallly doo need to get faster smarter players. no offence the premeau but he does have like 6 concussions, same with ronnik. but dont worry man vancouver has the same problems, they have too much speed, skill and feness. in a non contact league vancouver would hall ass around the league. the bottem line is that they need size, more then jsut bert they need one more power centre to put with the twins if they got that. man would they be a force. the truth is thou, that they did have that in magnus ardvison but they he broke his leg. you look at vancouver inthe first half of the year. we where first int he west and they were in a race for first in the league.