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#218457
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Judging by ESB & ROTJ original box office gross, here is why Lucas started to change
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Originally posted by: CO
I was looking at the original domestic box office gross of the OT movies. Now this does not count re-release, or SE money, it is exactly what the movie made in 1977, 1980, and 1983: (soure boxofficemojo.com)

Star Wars - 307 million

The Empire Strikes Back - 209 million

Return of the Jedi - 252 million

I was 5 years old in 1977, so I was one of those whizkid SW fans who brought the original SW to be the one of the greatest culture shocks to the movie business ever. Every kid my age loved the original SW, and we couldn 't get enough of it.

So Lucas goes dark in 1980 with ESB, more adult, more drama, the bad guys lose. What did I think of it in 1980? I liked it, but didn't love it. For an 8 year old kid, it was just too dark for me.

So Lucas sees the box office drop 100 million from the original SW and starts to wonder if ESB was a bit too adult and maybe he was turning off the kiddies like me.

So Lucas goes a bit cutesy in 1983 with ROTJ, the ewoks, the happy ending, the recycled deathstar space battle. I walked out of theater in 1983 as an 11 year old on cloud nine, I love it. It wasn't as good as Star Wars, but it was better than ESB. ROTJ makes 50 million more at the box office, kids like the softer tone, precursor to the SE & PT.......(psst: Jar Jar)

10-15 years later, I begin to start to notice something.....ESB is a great movie, and ROTJ, its good and all, but I have done the ultimate 180. Star Wars is always the best, now ESB is just as good and maybe even better in some ways, and ROTJ is now third on my list. Who here did exactly that change in their SW fandom from grammar school to college years?

I am not saying I am the blame for the kiddiness that pervaded the saga starting with the Ewoks, but I believe Lucas looked at the box office numbers, and thought that the more adult, the less money he is gonna make. In the process, he sacrificed quality of the movies to appeal to a wider range audience.

But I can't lie and not admit that I liked ROTJ more as a kid than ESB. It isn't my fault, but as they say in All The Presidents Men, "Follow the money." Judging by ROTJ & ESB gross, Lucas followed the money.



i think your 100% right.
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#218447
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World Cup 2006
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yeah i watched that brazil game my god, is all i have to say, if brazil can get its act together, they will be unstoppable. there problem is that they were choking too much, that give away in like the 5th min should have been converted. along with a few other opertunities. all in all i was really surpised by croatia. they have a pretty solid team, and were better then i expected.

of all the teams i have watched so far the one that seems to have geled the most is the czeh team, look for them to do something big.
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#218158
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World Cup 2006
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wow the US got ass kicked today, they couldnt pass for shit, nor could they penetrate. i dont thing i have ever seen a team pass back to the goalie more times in a game. they just would challenge the czehs.

all credit to the czehs though, they didnt give the US any time to set up, as soon as the ball got moved forward there was a czeh player challenging.
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#217013
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The Things We Hate And Love Thread .
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how can you know if they do or not. you cant know, all you know is that all of these big corperations are owned by very rich people that are all in the same crowd as bush and his buddies. but you dont have you know or not, what you can do is think for yourself an draw your own conclusions given the evidence that is reported. ill tell you right now, even before this whole conspericy issue. when i first saw pictures of the pentagon on 9/11 it didnt look to me that the hole was big enough.