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#119134
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A script for a new scene in ANH
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i c your point the majour thing is relaying the info that luke blew it up to vader. and that could be done very quickly. and for those that are watching it in order it would increase the drama and give purpose to some of the things that became redundant after the PT, just cause the audence knows something it doesnt mean that the characters, magically find out. its part of drama, seeing the reaction when you know something is the case when they dont, then seeing them find out.
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#119130
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The Prequels - my personal opinion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119130/action/topic#119130
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Originally posted by: Mavimao
I should have made myself clearer when I talked about CG.

I personally don't have a problem with CG in general. I think as well that it is definitely a helpful tool in the creation of movies and creatures that wouldn't have been possible with traditional methods. What I do have a problem with is directors thinking that they should use CG because they can and/or use it so much to the extent that it becomes style over content.

It's the overuse and misuse of CG that is a determining factor (not the sole one as you might have read :-) ) in my dislike of the prequels.

In the original trilogy there are many SFX shots and they have shown their age. However, unlike the new ones, 99.9% of the film is not a constent special effect. Had every background been a matte shot, every alien creature a "cartoon", had every piece of fruit been an animation, the film would appear to be very fragmented, dull and fake right? Imagine if the whole film looked like that scene when Luke and Han are talking on the barge on their way to the Scarlac? Wouldn't that have been...well, really cheesy? That's how I feel with the special effects in these new films. Everything is a special effect and because of that decision, the whole film will age...badly.


sry but wasnt that the case having a puppet is a special effect, running around with models are special effects. the OT had alot of Special effects too. your right the PT has way more but my point is that in some cases it unavoidable, give me some big CG shots that were in ep1 or 3, (not 2 cause that was an experiment that went wrong for lucas, shoting th whole film in digital) that would have been better done by puppet.

even spiderman 2 i can see places where it isnt perfect, there are lots of times, almost every CG shot in that movie with spiderman looked a little fake, but i am not complaining jsut pointing it out, all CG will look fake to some degree just as all models and puppets will look fake to some degree. you can make something look perfectly real unless it is. bt you can get close and both CG and Puppets do it, neither is better then the other, however one is more practical cause its alot cheaper.
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#119124
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A revised opinion of George Lucas
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119124/action/topic#119124
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Originally posted by: twister111
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
All good points and well put (without resorting to calling him a crazy sad recluse who needs to get laid). However, if in the future I decide that I really want to replace the guitar with a rocket launcher (LOL) why shouldn't I make that change?


I think that the difference here is that (I'm assuming) your the only one that worked on the portrait. If a person hires twenty people to work on a painting and, then (after the person who hired the people showed the picture in a lot of art galleries and, they say it's great) decides to change the guitar and, deny it's existance. Then, that's a different matter entirely. I think that George released the special editions becuase, he needed to get over his divorce. In one of the documentaries(I think it's in the Episode I disc) he said "it's like a marriage". Since his ex got millions(I think it was 24 million I'm not sure) basically making him have to build up his money again. He probably has a totally different view on marriage's now, then when he created Star Wars.




why is it different. just cause more people have seen it why does it matter.
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#119122
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A revised opinion of George Lucas
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119122/action/topic#119122
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Over the weekend my opinion of Mr lucas changed, and this is why - In 1999 I painted a portrait of a friend of mine playing his guitar. The painting is one of the best I have ever done, but was painted in a limited time period of 20 hours (five 4-hour sittings) and as a result of this restriction there were some bits I wasn't happy with. One of the things that really bugged me was that the perspective on one of the sitter's shoulders was wrong. This weekend, more than 6 years after the painting was originally completed, I started to put together an updated portfolio (I am an Ilustrator by trade) and I wanted to include what I considered to be one of my best pieces, but I didn't want to include the faults, so I took a high res photograph of the portrait, loaded it into photoshop and got to work rescaling the messed up perspective, painting out and touching up other area that bothered me, and after 5 hours of digital tinkering I had an image that I was really really pleased with. I must point out that I didn't use any photoshop filters or gadgets, I simply resized some areas to get the proportions right and used the paintbrush tools to touch it up a bit, but my point is this - yes, George Lucas should release the O-OT (The arguments for why he should do this have been made elsewhere and I don't need to repeat them), but I for one can fully understand being an artist who, unhappy with the work, decides to fix it with the help of technology that was not around or unavailable to him/her at the time the original art was created. My painting now lives up to my original vision and I consider it the definitive piece, the one that I will show people, the one that will be in my portfolio. I will not destroy the original, but I will no longer display it as I see it as inferior. You can resent Lucas' stubborness over releasing the O-OT (I do), but I will no longer call him mad, crazy, out of touch, LucASS, or any of that other crap. I also think that based on the various interviews / biographies, etc that I have seen, he seems like a very nice guy who's just doing his thing. Unfortunately his thing pisses off a lot of people, but from now on I will be giving him a break, and maybe some of you will too.


at last someone gets it.
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#119119
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A script for a new scene in ANH
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119119/action/topic#119119
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
It never rains on Coruscant until after Galactic City is destroyed and the planetary orbit shifted.


LOL i was thinking that. but isnt there a scene in the PT somewhere that shows rain on curocant like when mace gets thrown out the window.


i think the scene would be a great idea, it would be a good way to replace the cliffhanger at the end of empire as that is no good any more. i dont think it would ruin the paseing either, a scene like that only takes about a min or a min and a half of scene time, and for the amount it adds its good.
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#119117
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Order 66
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119117/action/topic#119117
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Originally posted by: Caster
Riiiight. At any rate, in AOTC, that Kaminoan guy said the clones will take any order without question. And the Chancellor would have the ultimate authority in the republic. If the big guy gives the order, who outranks everyone else, the army created for the republic would follow the order without question.


exactly and thats the bottem line.
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#119061
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Just an idea I thought of a coordinated effort to inform SW forum members of the OOT preservation efforts
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119061/action/topic#119061
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Originally posted by: DarthAstuart
i also don't think it's wise to draw too much attention to this great site and the many great efforts. technically, it's all very much illegal...at least, as I understand the laws involved.

if you want to raise exposure, I'd consider first reaching out to media who aren't directly tied to LFL. say ainticool.com or cinescape or something...even entertainment weekly. pick some influential writers and mail them copies of the Cowclops or Dr. Gonzo sets, along with a letter or press release or something. that might help stoke the fires.

on the other hand, again you'd have a lot of attention that might ultimately be unwanted....


dude this site is not illegal, ad i can tell you right now lucas knows about this.
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#119045
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The Prequels - my personal opinion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119045/action/topic#119045
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wow that was very deep, and what i would like all people who say that hate the PT to stat before they start bashing it. you my friend may bash away.

i do have one thing, the CG your point isnt really a valid one, it applies to movies that uses lots of CGI, not just the PT lotr no matter how good it looks will be dated, i can already see it in Return of the king. same goes for others as well. so that cant be a valid reason you hate the PT, CGI is the new tool for creating effect, it is easier and cheaper to use, and more diverse then models. the fact that anyone can us it is a good thing, it means that directors will have to put more in stories as effects will no longer carry movies.

your other points are very good, and very well supported, and i can easily empathise with you when you say you hate them. I personally took them for what they were meant to do, entertain me for 2 and a half hours, and maybe make me think a little afterwords, the movies did those two things very well and so i liked them.