Very good video so far. Paced and edited really well, and I agree with most of your points.
I’ll check it out when I get home.
Prowse would have worked fine as Anakin’s ghost, but not as unmasked, dying Anakin. He would have looked too strong and healthy.
If I was starting from 2012, I’d still introduce a new canon, but I’d also get some of the most well liked old EU authors to write revised editions of their novels that would be tweaked to fit in the new canon. Most importantly, I’d get Timothy Zahn to do a new edition of the Thrawn trilogy. Then, I’d produce a sequel trilogy, keeping the 30-year time gap but releasing the episodes 3 years apart rather than 2 years. After the sequel trilogy is wrapped up, I’d switch to doing anthology films every 2 years or so. Then, about 10 years after Episode IX’s release, I’d produce a film that would be the start of a new saga set in either the Old Republic era or in the far future.
My anthology films would be: a revised Rogue One that would be more of a spy movie, a lighthearted Lando heist movie, a Boba Fett vs. Din Djarin bounty hunting movie, and a small-scale Obi-Wan movie set on Tatooine.
If I took over now, I’d just introduce the idea of alternate timelines and discard the idea of a single, unified canon. Then I’d do a new trilogy that was set far enough in the future where it could be set in any timeline (like how Breath of the Wild fits in the Zelda timeline).
I feel like Zuko’s not a great comparison to Darth Vader. Zuko’s arc relies on him joining the protagonists, his redemption isn’t the end of his story. This isn’t the case for Vader, and I don’t think it should’ve been either.
Yeah, Vader isn’t the sort of character where you could have him spending time with the heroes and becoming part of the group and earning their trust. That wouldn’t work with him. It’s how I might’ve redeemed Kylo Ren, but not Darth Vader. He was a shell of a man. His only option to atone was to die.
If Anakin had survived and come back with Luke, he would still have to be tried for his crimes.
In TPM, use deepfakes to swap out Natalie Portman’s and Keira Knightley’s faces. Maybe even swap the faces back and forth between scenes, just to cause more confusion.
Hey, I was wondering if anyone has tried upmixing the 5.1 audio to a 7.1 setup, or even to a 7.1.4 setup. If so, how did it sound?
We’ve ascended beyond OT purism now. We’ve gone up to 1977 purism.
But in all seriousness, I think something is lost when you only view Star Wars 77 in isolation. It’s neat to look at how far the characters come from the start of that movie to the end of RotJ, and the two sequels recontextualize the original in a way that adds more depth to the story imo
I wouldn’t want that. The only improvement I’d expect with a remake would be the modern special effects, but most likely, every other aspect of the movies would be done worse.
It’d be interesting to see Ewan Macgregor and Hayden Christiansen acting out the OT story, though. Also, if a remake were inevitable, I wouldn’t mind seeing Coruscant/Had Abaddon reinstated into RotJ.
Now, remaking the prequels and sequels is something I would consider more, if they got the right writers and director.
They should Remake the Prequels after the OT
If a saga remake were definitely happening, I’d prefer if they just remade the films in chronological order. It would allow the story to be more cohesive, and you wouldn’t need to do any recasting between trilogies.
I think Han instead of being Frozen he should have die in ESB being killed by Boba Fett his character would have closed in a good way but the problem is if Han died Vader redemption would be more difficult because Luke and Leia would not have forgiven that Han had died at the hands of the Empire if Han died i think we would not have seen Vader turn to the light side and he would have been still a Villain until Luke defeated him
Also, Lando definitely wouldn’t have been forgiven, either.
I wouldn’t want that. The only improvement I’d expect with a remake would be the modern special effects, but most likely, every other aspect of the movies would be done worse.
It’d be interesting to see Ewan Macgregor and Hayden Christiansen acting out the OT story, though. Also, if a remake were inevitable, I wouldn’t mind seeing Coruscant/Had Abaddon reinstated into RotJ.
Now, remaking the prequels and sequels is something I would consider more, if they got the right writers and director.
I’m curious to hear people’s takes on this. I’ve noticed that a lot of fan rewrites of RotJ generally try to make the story darker, and one of the most common changes made is killing off Han or sometimes Lando (who I think was set to die in earlier drafts, anyway, failing to escape the Death Star explosion in time). I know it’s what Harrison Ford wanted, but would it have actually improved the movie? And would having a more downer, bittersweet ending in general have been an improvement?
I remember a story I heard about how Richard Marquand wanted the duel in RotJ to be bigger and more elaborate than the one in Empire, but George told him that wasn’t necessary. Ultimately, the actual sword swinging should be secondary to the character interaction.
I finally found that Richard Marquand quote I was thinking of.
"There was a feeling I had that I would like the (Jedi lightsaber duel between Luke and Vader) to be bigger than the fight in Empire. And then George said that it doesn’t have to be bigger, because basically it can’t be. George is very blunt. He said, ‘It’s just a couple of guys banging sticks against each other. Don’t worry about that. It is bigger because of what is going on in their heads. That is what makes it bigger.’
I don’t really know how to reconcile this with George’s “bigger is better” attitude by the time of RotS.
You like the Max Rebo Band?
Their early work was a little too “new wave” for my taste. But when “Lapti Nek” came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost.
He’s been compared to Figrin D’an, but I think Max has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.
In '97, Max released Galactic Dance Blast, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is “Jedi Rocks”. A song so catchy, most people probably don’t listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it’s not just about the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends. It’s also a personal statement about the band itself.
Hey, Maul!
That sounds like a pretty neat idea.
What if the Imperial Remnant was trying to distance itself from its dark past and forge a new way forward for itself but the Knights of Ren are hellbent on retaining its autocratic nature? The IR seeking peaceful coexistence with the New Republic but the Knights of Ren are still stuck in the conquering warlike mentality of the Empire. I would take away the focus from how the New Republic is developing but let’s be honest, conflict is what drives these kinds of stories.
A society at war with itself, one half looking to build a better future dealing with its dark legacy while the other half wants to restore the Empire to its former glory.
I always thought the sequel trilogy should have been about a civil war between Imperial factions: a large militaristic but pragmatic remnant who want to establish a post-Sith order & a smaller group of Sith-cultists carrying out terrorist attacks. The New Republic gets reluctantly drawn in as the conflict spills out into its territory. You could have a Snoke figure or the Sith eternal as the hidden force fuelling the conflict, bringing the new Jedi order into the fray.
I was thinking of having Episode VII be an Empire civil war story, but honestly, yeah, the whole trilogy could have been centered around what you’re describing. The only thing is, I’d still want there to be a sense of some existential threat to the Republic, at least in Episode IX.
I was talking to Servii about this in PMs, I think it’s interesting how open the galaxy seems to be in the PT, compared to the OT and ST where the galaxy gradually seems smaller and smaller. If I were to write my own version of all of Star Wars, I’d lean into that hard. The galaxy is bustling and vibrant in Episode 1, but the Clone Wars and then later the Empire mar the galaxy so badly that it’ll never really recover. Trade completely breaks down, hyperspace lanes are forgotten, planets are abandoned, etc. The New Republic may try to make things what they once were, but with so much galactic infrastructure destroyed and pilfered, it could never.
Jakku is symbolic of what the future of the galaxy’s like. A world which was once an imperial dumping ground now has its own, new ecosystem of scavengers, and the Star Destroyers and walkers which once terrorized the galaxy are now great sources of livelihood. It’s not glamorous like what their great grand-parents would’ve done for a living, but it’s a new niche that didn’t exist before. Without the Empire, Jakku wouldn’t exist.
After Episode 9, the galaxy will never recover or return to its past glory, but will learn to thrive in the new post-Empire reality. Like after the fall of the Roman Empire, civilization will not exist on the same scale that it once did, but new, complex societies are born in the aftermath.
Not to mention, having a more decentralized galaxy moving forward would pave the way for lots of smaller scale stories in the future. You could have drastically different events going on in different corners of the galaxy, so as a result, the galaxy would actually feel bigger.
I don’t really feel like an OT purist, but there’s just so much great shit about the OT that I genuinely think gets missed if you don’t consider it in isolation, forgetting the PT and ST exist entirely.
What stands out to me in particular is the sense of wonder and power around the Force. If you watch the prequels or sequels first, then Yoda pulling the X-wing out of the swamp is a less powerful, less magical moment, and Palpatine conjuring Force lightning in RotJ doesn’t leave as much of an impression.
P.S. going down a rabbit-hole right now as I start thinking about flipping the POV for what could be called the ANNALS OF THE SITH
Hmm, I’ll take a crack at that, too.
Book 1: Phantoms of Malice
Book 2: Engineers of War
Book 3: Destroyers of the Republic
Book 4: Keepers of Order
Book 5: Avengers of the Empire
Book 6: Heart of Temptation
Book 7: Insurgents of the Fringe
Book 8: Subjugators of the Galaxy
Book 9: Resurrection of Empire
To the celebration scene at the end of RotJ, add freeze frames of each of the main characters, with a text description of what happened to them after the events of the movie, like in Animal House.
You could do 3 versions. A canon version, a Legends version, and a jokey version.
I tend to think of the OT as the core story of Star Wars, and so anything that’s come out since then is supplemental to that core story. You watch the main storyline, then if you want to see more stories that build off of that foundation, you can optionally check out the PT, ST, or EU. All of those things “orbit” around the OT.
I prefer Tatooine to be a random planet than being the place where Darth Vader was born
I mean, it was already implied in ANH that Luke’s father and Owen were from there.
I watched this tonight, and I was blown away by the quality and scope of the project. It looked and felt like an official version of the movie, except more polished and comprehensive. The fact that this is a fan project is amazing. Two thumbs up. I highly recommend this.
Random thought / observation …nearly every prequel rewrite or idea I come across still uses characters that were created for the movies that came out between 1999 and 2005 . Darth Maul , Grievous , Dooku , Qui Gon, etc . Be nice to see a rewrite or idea using original characters as well as the ones from the OT that would logically carry over …
It’s more of a challenge that way, but it can definitely open up a lot more options for the rewriter. I’m personally a fan of the idea of using most of the prequel characters as a base and then tweaking them to suit the story. So, you might have a fallen Jedi leading a separatist movement, a character who’s like Dooku but also diverges in several ways. Or you can have a Kaleesh warlord character who’s a deviation from Grievous.
R2-D2 is Palpatine’s centuries-long arch nemesis. As Palpatine fell to his death, his last thoughts were “Somehow, this is all that damn droid’s fault.”
I didn’t even see that the body of the post was edited. Really uncool. Even if this post was downright intentionally spreading misinformation, it shows a severe lack of maturity and restraint in the mod team on OT.com to treat it this way. This is an argument over space movies where they say “Nerf herder”. It isn’t so dangerous as to warrant this kind of treatment.
Agreed. It seems like overreach for such a trivial issue.